I spent the day riding my bike around the metro vehicle shopping; looked at lots of vehicles and never found one I'd pay as much as they were asking for it.
fuckmefunny found out most car lots don't put prices on used cars anymore too, and all the salemen got fucking attitudes, shit attitudes at that, which makes my attitude go to shit as well which pretty much means any kind of gainfull negociations are shot, course I'm kicking tires too, but if I find one I really like I'm apt to buy it, but then again my attitude is pretty narrow when I feel I'm being talked down to and that makes my wallet snap shut harder than a nun's knees.
ask for the price and they all ask how much you want to pay a month, so you tell them "I don't know until you tell what the price of the car is first"
and they give you some fucked up price that's higher than a new one, had one tell me he don't sell outright for cash cause he don't make enough money, he only finances them since he's a buy here/pay here dealer.
had another salesman tell me they were helping the bank sell it's repos, and I said great, how much for this here altama, he says "how much you looking to pay per month", I say "how much is the car and then I'll know since ya'll don't put the price on the cars" and he says "sold one just like this one this morning and the bank lost $800 on the deal"
I told him "bullshit, there isn't a bank one ever loose money on a repo" and he says "no, no really" and I say "bullshit", then he says "well.......the bank gets it's money from the buyer", so I say "Goddamned right they do, you was telling me a story"
and he says "I wasn't telling you a story", so I say "alright, you was outright lying to me then, because banks don't loose money ever on repos; now what's the price on this car?"
he goes in and gets him a drink of water (seen him through the window); while he's inside drinking water the sales chick trainee he got with him asked what I do for a living so I tell her "I work for a gvn't reglatory commission that ensures the integrity of the business and conducts investigations of any inpropriaties such as theft, deception, failure to follow fed/state regs by employee's etc" (no tale either since that's a small part of what I do for a living), the chick quit talking to me.
the dude then comes back out and says "that car there is $25900, and it's got 22k miles on it", so I thanked him and turned to leave and he said "I got other cars, what's your price range", so I say "nah man, we're just wasting eachother's time, you don't have a car on this lot in my price range, plenty of other car lots around that do though (little did I know at the time there wasnt' any with the milage range I want to stay in at any lot I checked)"
checked out some jeeps at another, fuckmefunny a Goddamned plainjane wrangler is $25k nowdays, looked at a 09' with 35k miles and it was either $17k or $21k (the sales mgr couldn't ever settle on a solid number), then he tried to get the salesman to show me a 3/4 ton dodge 4x4, told him I wasn't interested in a dodge truck, and he asked why not so I told him I don't like dodge trucks and he says man you're in a dodge dealership so I say yeah man, but I'm not looking at the dodge trucks, I'm looking at the jeeps and I'm blown away by sticker shock,
that the last time I bought a 4x4 was back in 96' when I bought a k1500 chevy xcab with silverado package for $17800 and jeeps were like $14k and he shrugs his shoulders and say's inflation, have you seen that truck right there (points to one on showroom floor) it's $50k and I said yeah, that's why it's sitting in the showroom instead of somebody's driveway.
maybe I'm just too cheap to buy a car off a lot theses days, fuckmefunny people that's buying must be finding some Goddamned good deals, making some pretty good money or in debt out the yingyang having financed 84+ months worth.
figure since seeing prices on new vehicles I'm going to try and save up at least $10k, preferably more for a down payment on a new, or outright buy off an individual.
gonna get some riding in tomorrow though, damn nice weather to be fucking around looking at cars