First, I realize we don't normally give the name until after the company has had a chance to make ammends. Well, they had their chance already and I've never gotten on here to complain about anything.
Little background first. My wife had been driving the same car for 9 years and finally decided 2 months ago it was time for a replacement. I've busted my butt for a year and a half to get her something different, but the last 2 months have been the hardest since she is now ready for it. I've been doing research on everything she says she likes, so we were not going into this completely blind today.
So today, we finally agreed on a car, drove it, liked it and decided to talk price. It was a Mazda 6 that Rosenthal Nissan Mazda had on the lot in Vienna. We go in, talk to the sales guy, he gives us a price and we tell him it is a good start. The manager then comes out and proceeds to feed us a bunch of crap about how he loves the trade in, the first he took was the same thing. Whatever, my wife and I have some idea how the game works so we play a long.
Finally he gives us a price that is $3000 lower than the internet price (about $6000 lower than kbb.com retail, and $1000 lower than kbb.com trade in), with 2 years free maintenance and oil changes. He wrote all of this down, figured tax/title/fess, even gave us an "out the door" price. Sounds like a decent deal and I didn't even have to haggle, this guy is just offering it because we don't look all that amused.
We said thanks, we might be back and went to look at one more car on another lot. My wife decided she like the Mazda 6 so we ended up back at Rosenthal. The original sales guy starts the paperwork and all is good. The manager comes back out, makes the appropriate notes on the "we owe" slip and shows us another worksheet with a different pricing scheme, AND asks my wife to inital. We both declined to initial as the pricing wasn't quite correct. He tells us not to worry, no need to sign it, everything will work out in the business/finance office. We're still okay at this point.
In the business office, the computer jockey punches the numbers into the computer and comes up with the amount that we are going to finance. It is over $1000 more than the agreed upon "out the door" price. After some back and forth with the business guy and the manager, he says "my boss came in and said we can't do this. But we'll take another $300 off." Now we had a problem.
I stood up and started to walk out as did my wife. We had some unkind words with the manager then ran into his boss, who claimed they were losing money if they made the deal. Plus the manager himself says "your trade in isn't worth $100, let alone what we're giving you." We know the game even if we aren't that good at it. We knew they weren't giving us shit for our trade in, we were playing along.
Anyway the manager f'ing lied to our faces about "don't worry it will work out." I'm PISSED!!! Not about the car, but about the way they operated. This guy truly believed we wouldn't notice an extra $1000. Then he denied lying about it.
I will not be going to any place with the name Rosenthal on it for anything. I'm currently forming a couple of letters in my head. The first with be to the dealership and the manager, the second will be to the better business bureau, and the third will be to the chamber of commerce. It may not do anything but make me feel better, but that's a start.
If the guy had come to us and said, "Hey I screwed up, I can't sell it at that price, here's what we can do," I would not have been happy, but probably would have worked with the guy. For him to lie to us was the worst thing he could have done.
If anybody knows a decent dealer out there, please let me know. I'm tired of dealing with scumbags. Cliffy, I know you're a good guy, you just don't sell what we want.
Thanks for a place to vent.