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Posted: 3/16/2006 2:32:22 PM EDT
Anyone know of any shop that is selling/has in stock bent bolt k98s (german/capture) at a reasonable price somewhere about 180-250 price range in and around northern cook? (schaumbureg/hoffman estates/southern mchenry like carpentersville).
Thanks (sorry off topic, and not as gutsy as asking to by a dreaded -aw-) |
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Good luck! I haven't seen any anywhere I have been. I've considered getting one in the long term, but I came to the conclusion that the Internet was the way to go.
Let me know if you guys find a source. Here's some links: www.impactguns.com/store/mauser_surplus_rifles.html www.gunbroker.com/ Auctionarms www.aimsurplus.com/acatalog/Rifles.html AIM used to have them, but they don't now. Definitely not RC's: www.mitchellsales.com/ www.miltecharms.com/rifles.htm#MAUSER If you get one, a range report would be cool! |
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I have a C&R if you guys find a source. I'd prefer if you guys not get into the legal arguement of me, "Engaging in a business" as I have no desire to profit from them at all...but if you guys want stuff that is C&R and you're willing to buy it from me legally at ZERO profit, I will acquire and dispose of these firearms for you.
I live in northern crook county, as well. |
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Ok, here we go:
INTERORDINANCE Hmm...anybody have experience with them? Edit: Crap, looks like they may be out of stock too. |
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Have you been to Smokin Gun in Waukegan? They usually have some Mausers on their rack for reasonable prices.
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I haven't. I'll check them out someday. Thanks
I think those are Mauser 98's, not 98k's. Somebody correct me if I am wrong. Plus they looked pretty bad and have been there forever. |
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Profit or no. Selling them you would be. Admitting that you will break the law in an open forum is about as wise as saying you will do full auto mod's. I know you think you're right and want to be the "go to guy" but you should look into this more deeply than you have. Enjoy the veal. JR |
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I have guidelines numbering thousands of pages on the federal laws involved in having my C&R. It expressly states that I can acquire and dispose of C&R firearms as I wish, but may not actively engage in business transactions, which is clearly defined by the ATF. So long as I am not attempting to make a profit, it's perfectly legal for me to acquire and dispose of these firearms in private sales as I wish. If you do not want my services, fine, but I've met plenty of the people from this board and I would have no problem personally engaging in a transaction between myself and someone on this board within the law in order to help them out. You might think this is a gray area but if you read the law, it is clearly not.
Not only CAN I sell firearms to you guys, but I can even sell them "occasionally" at a profit to enhance my personal collection of C&R firearms, perfectly within the laws of this country. In order to abide by the laws of this state, I will check your FOID, I will make a bill of sale, and you WILL comply with the waiting period. As long as that's cool with you, I'm more than happy to use my license to benefit EVERYONE here at the board. Engaging in a business is clearly defined and it is within the law for me to offer this service to people here as a courtesy. I do not appreciate you implying that I would do anything illegal as that is 100% false. I would gladly do anything within the law to help out the members here in the Illinois forum as you guys are all pretty cool here. Now that we've got that out of the way, if anyone wants a firearm just let me know. Inter Ordinance has my FFL on file already so if there's anything you want from them, it's simply a phone call away. |
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Tim,
You are not correct. A C&R license is stictly for purchasing firearms for your personal collection. You may sell firearms from your collection. You cannot buy firearms for another person or with the intent to sell them to another person. Making a statement on a public bulletin board that you will buy rifles for other people can get you in trouble. |
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So I take it you don't want any rifles. Those of you that do, IM me. There is a clearly defined legal definition of what engaging in a business is. If you think buying rifles and selling them on an occassional basis is engaging in a business, go ahead and call the US Attorney's office and we'll see if a grand jury agrees with you. Either way I'm going to keep my paperwork straight and not worry. I'm not a criminal and this is NOT illegal, as I posted a direct link to the ATF's website above. Seems that everyone wants to be an armchair lawyer but doesn't want to read the law. If you don't want any rifles, don't ask for any, or participate in this thread. If you have any legal backing or case law to post for the statements you've made, go ahead and post it. Until then, don't advise me on the law, as I have researched this and it is perfectly legal. I am a federally licensed collector, and I am free to purchase C&R firearms (not just rifles) for any purpose that I wish. I am also free to sell them, so long as I'm not, "Engaged in a business" which is clearly defined above. It's fine if you disagree, but do not imply that I am a criminal. That is, as stated before, 100% false. |
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Yes, I have a C& R and have purchased many rifles for my collection.
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So why even reply here? If you have your own, you don't need me. |
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Whatever...just trying to save you from some trouble.
Sorry I bothered. |
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Well thanks for your concern. It's not personal, btw. I don't recall meeting you in person, but a bunch of other guys have met me here...and I have bought and sold several firearms FTF with members of the board here, so I'm not overly concerned about it, as long as the transaction is done legally. |
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hopefully no one got bent out of shape cause of me little ol request...so solly. hose
I'll have to check that place out in waukegan - anyone know if GAT has stuff like that or if they'd do an order? Thanks! |
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get a C&R its only $35.. and you'll end up saveing more than that the first time you buy a C&R eligable firearm
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$30 |
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You're required by law to notify them, and they'll send you new license with your new address. It takes a little while, though. |
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Oh, man, you missed the one I saw at the gun show in Dupage about a month or two ago.
Sniper variation with original numbers matching scope (a factory sniper rifle, I guess). Some guy brought it in, said it was just sitting in his basement ....... I guess a relative brought it back from the war. Another vendor there told me it was probably a $15k gun. |
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I think they get them from time to time. I asked once, and they had me fill out a card that was used to notify me if they added one to their inventory. That was probably six months ago and I haven't heard a peep since. |
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On the debate between Tim and racecar/Roadhawk, of course it's a fine line.
If this is an actual response by the ATF, this is probably the most clear word on the topic: www.geocities.com/Yosemite/Gorge/4653/cnrbiz02.htm
Also, BTW, believe it or not, there is actually a statute governing "gunrunning." So long as the seller follows the law (i.e. waiting period, checks FOID, records everything, buyer not retarded, etc...) then there is no gunrunning.
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Now that we've got that out of the way, my IM box is empty for anyone that wants a C&R firearm.
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Whys that ? Are you a C&R dealer now ? JR |
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This was the purpose of this thread, not who here is willing to buy one for him.
Let's please leave it at that. |
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I took the round about way up to Smoking Hole yesterday. Stopped by Krebs Custom 1st. Mmmm pistol griped 308 Saiga's, I want one!!! Handled a prototype AK that will revolutionize AK use in 3 gun competitions.
Smoke N Gun (closed Sundays) had 3 K98's, one @ $219 and 2 @ $299. The cheap bastard that I am I looked at the $219 one. Pulled the bolt and checked out the rifling, bore look nice and sharp. Dirty but sharp. Stock was kinda beat up but not aweful. Not sure if the numbers are supposed to match on K98's, this one didn't. Blueing looked good and rifle had loads of waffenstamps(wrong word) on it. The stamps were an eagle over a ball. The swastika's were removed. |
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WOW, thanks for the foot work Drobs. I gotta check that out.
I just emailed GAT's. They'll order whatever you want, with a down payment. I saw that Coles Dist. has K98s arsenal refinished for about 199 to FFL...figure another 100 markup and you get to 299 at that place in Waukegan. (i found that arsenal refinished might included a proper headspacing per a mosin i handled) - nothing like a case head seperation to ruin a good face - not like 38 super face - but darned close. Cool. Thanks! |
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the web site is
http://coledistributing.com/ but it doesn't seem to be well updated. |
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just looked at Cole's website...what a turn off - k98s missing screws for 199!!! ack!
groan - always remember to keep your websites updated guys - |
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No problem, got nothing better to do on Saturdays than go on the Gun store circuit.
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Danke!
Now, that's a good price! |
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Coles wesite blows a little.
You gotta check our their SGN add for current deals. hanging out here is not a bad idea. gunboards.com/forums/ Good dealers here. www.gunsnammo.com/ For antique ( no ffl) Finish M39s www.samcoglobal.com/rifles.html www.sarcoinc.com/guns.html For Egyptian mausers and other C&R's www.classicarms.us/ www.allans-armory.com/aa.asp And mainstay, www.empirearms.com/ JR |
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