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Posted: 4/14/2021 5:50:35 PM EDT
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I just spent 30 damn minutes typing out an IM, with a list of about 15-20 very good ones in the Eagle River/Three Lakes/St. Germain/Land O Lakes areas, complete with links to their offices. I've known most of them for decades. I went to send it to you, and the message bounced back because of "image code failure". The 'Captha' thing at the bottom of each message. I entered the correct code, double checked it... but it failed anyway. And... the message I typed is gone into a cyberspace black hole as well.
 I forgot to "copy" it before sending, as this same shit happens almost every fucking time I try to send a IM here.   I'll try it again tomorrow... I'm too pissed off to do it now. EDIT: I just found the message by "back paging" a few times, and resent it! I think it went through this time. 
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Posted: 4/14/2021 6:55:59 PM EDT
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Congrats - it came through! Thanks for the effort, I'll fwd. it to my daughter. I owe ya a beer. Ok, an Old Fashioned.
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Posted: 4/21/2021 10:34:45 PM EDT
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Best guy I know sent friends to and even a guy here to and everyone likes him and trusts him.
I trust him completely Chris Hiller buy north |
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Posted: 4/22/2021 7:40:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Best guy I know sent friends to and even a guy here to and everyone likes him and trusts him. I trust him completely Chris Hiller buy north Thanks, I'll pass that on. |
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Posted: 4/22/2021 9:01:48 AM EDT
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Unfortunately.... all the best realtors in the world are useless if there's absolutely nothing for sale.
nada, zilch, zip... Even the available upper 6-figure/7-figure lakeside palaces are getting scarce... Nothing but vacant land to build on (and that's not cheap now either), but then there's the high cost of lumber, and unavailability of people to build it for you, to deal with. |
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Posted: 4/22/2021 10:43:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Unfortunately.... all the best realtors in the world are useless if there's absolutely nothing for sale. nada, zilch, zip... Even the available upper 6-figure/7-figure lakeside palaces are getting scarce... Nothing but vacant land to build on (and that's not cheap now either), but then there's the high cost of lumber, and unavailability of people to build it for you, to deal with. Yep and exactly what Chris told me the other day...same with S Dakota ...little to no product for sale...prices sky high. Yep and why we ended up selling our lake lot We would have had over a million into the place if we built our specked out house...so now we hold and wait...and hope we live long enough to make a move to greener pastures. Good thread on timber prices https://www.ar15.com/forums/General/Lumber-prices-my-opinion-as-a-forester/5-2446268/ |
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Posted: 6/19/2021 10:49:47 PM EDT
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We were looking at a place on S Blue...realtor told us not to bother...40 people were going to an open house where the bidding would be done...the market price was meaningless...some really rich guy was flying in from California with cash
and expected to take it for quite a bit over the asking.  Now we are looking over toward 3 lakes further east and N East. |
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Posted: 6/19/2021 11:03:02 PM EDT
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We've checked out a few for the daughter. Asking price was about 2-3 times what I figured they were worth. They were going to go look at one I told her looked pretty good (except for the price, in my 1970's frame of mind) but the realtor called them the night before and told them there was already an accepted offer, after telling them that day the bids were going to be cut off the following day. Personally, I think they should wait for a bit. Hopefully this nonsense will pass. I can't see going in under water from the get go, even if you can afford it. But, she feels the time they spend there would be worth more than the money spent on the place. Kind of have to go along with her there.
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Posted: 6/20/2021 7:59:39 AM EDT
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Found this place
https://my.flexmls.com/cherylOelke/search/shared_links/5CTFo/listings/20210619135146186547000000 Sorry if the link is prohibitive. Delete if so. JP |
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Posted: 6/20/2021 8:08:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Found this place https://my.flexmls.com/cherylOelke/search/shared_links/5CTFo/listings/20210619135146186547000000 Sorry if the link is prohibitive. Delete if so. JP I can just picture the 39 losers of the bidding war running over there to start bidding this one up... Guessing why the listing says "delayed" on it?? |
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Posted: 6/20/2021 9:56:25 AM EDT
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I didn't understand what the "Delayed "
Was, myself. ??? |
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Posted: 6/20/2021 10:27:50 AM EDT
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Supposedly "delayed" means there is a contract between seller and agent but any showings are delayed, usually for 15 days. That's a nice place, but not what I imagine when I think of a half million $ place.
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Posted: 6/20/2021 11:17:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Supposedly "delayed" means there is a contract between seller and agent but any showings are delayed, usually for 15 days. That's a nice place, but not what I imagine when I think of a half million $ place. In CA they are selling their homes for millions...that same home in Central WI would be worth $250,000. They bring their new found wealth to states where really nice land is still relatively cheap...cheap by their standards. Sell a $250,000 home for $1.5mil and buy a $250,000 home in WI for $500,000 still cheap for them...not for us. We were looking in S Dakota last year and it was bad this year it's twice as worse...Florida,Texas,AZ, and many more states the escapees from the west coast,east coast,Mn an IL are going to kill WI IMO Of course then the taxes here go up... Was talking to our friend Chris a realtor in Minocqua and he is beside himself...thousands of buyers no property to sell and hundreds of agents all competing for scarce properties...imagine its gonna get real cut throat up there this summer. I'd just get cash long and wait for the crash... Those of us wanting to get back "Up Nort" we got @rfb45colt as our canary in the coal mine so to speak... 
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Posted: 6/20/2021 11:38:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Supposedly "delayed" means there is a contract between seller and agent but any showings are delayed, usually for 15 days. That's a nice place, but not what I imagine when I think of a half million $ place. Thank you for the explanation.. ???? |
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Posted: 6/20/2021 4:36:49 PM EDT
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I was just thinking about the property taxes on these places. In the listings they show the taxes for the past few years and in most cases, they aren't too horrible. Now the place gets sold for 2-3 times what it's worth. I doubt if the property taxes will stay the same. Wouldn't you think the Co. will look and see a 100K property now sold for 300K - you think they'll keep the taxes the same? I think the county fathers are just sitting back and wringing their hands at the prospect of their new found windfall.
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Posted: 6/20/2021 4:37:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was just thinking about the property taxes on these places. In the listings they show the taxes for the past few years and in most cases, they aren't too horrible. Now the place gets sold for 2-3 times what it's worth. I doubt if the property taxes will stay the same. Wouldn't you think the Co. will look and see a 100K property now sold for 300K - you think they'll keep the taxes the same? I think the county fathers are just sitting back and wringing their hands at the prospect of their new found windfall. The open book sessions will get sporty that's for sure. |
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Posted: 6/20/2021 4:42:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: In CA they are selling their homes for millions...that same home in Central WI would be worth $250,000. They bring their new found wealth to states where really nice land is still relatively cheap...cheap by their standards. Sell a $250,000 home for $1.5mil and buy a $250,000 home in WI for $500,000 still cheap for them...not for us. We were looking in S Dakota last year and it was bad this year it's twice as worse...Florida,Texas,AZ, and many more states the escapees from the west coast,east coast,Mn an IL are going to kill WI IMO Of course then the taxes here go up... Was talking to our friend Chris a realtor in Minocqua and he is beside himself...thousands of buyers no property to sell and hundreds of agents all competing for scarce properties...imagine its gonna get real cut throat up there this summer. I'd just get cash long and wait for the crash... Those of us wanting to get back "Up Nort" we got @rfb45colt as our canary in the coal mine so to speak... That happened in AZ awhile back when the Cali crowd was selling their homes for big bucks. They then crawled to AZ and bought up homes that were selling for big bucks (not for the Calis') because of the shortage. New construction was going crazy - even had a cement shortage. Then, the bottom fell out. A lot of unfinished and newly finished homes just sat empty. Whole developments were abandoned. These things never last. |
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Posted: 6/20/2021 4:49:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was just thinking about the property taxes on these places. In the listings they show the taxes for the past few years and in most cases, they aren't too horrible. Now the place gets sold for 2-3 times what it's worth. I doubt if the property taxes will stay the same. Wouldn't you think the Co. will look and see a 100K property now sold for 300K - you think they'll keep the taxes the same? I think the county fathers are just sitting back and wringing their hands at the prospect of their new found windfall. I'm not worried about it because there's vey few places being sold right now. Nowhere near enough to have any affect on the overwhelming majority of properties not changing hands anytime soon. I could probably get 3-4 times what I paid for my house, if I sold it tomorrow...but where the hell would I go? So I sit on it, like most everyone else, and assessment values stay static. |
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Posted: 6/20/2021 4:58:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Was talking to our friend Chris a realtor in Minocqua and he is beside himself...thousands of buyers no property to sell and hundreds of agents all competing for scarce properties...imagine its gonna get real cut throat up there this summer. Quote HistoryQuoted: Was talking to our friend Chris a realtor in Minocqua and he is beside himself...thousands of buyers no property to sell and hundreds of agents all competing for scarce properties...imagine its gonna get real cut throat up there this summer. Vacant land is about all you see for sale. That, and business properties. Residential property for sale is scarce. Listings sell almost immediately, no negotiating, unless a bidding war erupts... then price goes up, not down. Not a good time to be a realtor up here. Sure, commissions are up, because sale prices are up. But, volume of sales is way way down. Just not enough homes up for sale to fill the demand. Those of us wanting to get back "Up Nort" we got @rfb45colt as our canary in the coal mine so to speak... tweet tweet tweet...  My advice? Look in the U.P. , forget WI... for now anyways. |
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Posted: 6/20/2021 6:06:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Vacant land is about all you see for sale. That, and business properties. Residential property for sale is scarce. Listings sell almost immediately, no negotiating, unless a bidding war erupts... then price goes up, not down. Not a good time to be a realtor up here. Sure, commissions are up, because sale prices are up. But, volume of sales is way way down. Just not enough homes up for sale to fill the demand. tweet tweet tweet... My advice? Look in the U.P. , forget WI... for now anyways. LOL I hear you on the UP and we'd like it but I don't wanna risk being under Gretchen's thumb or Lansing's... Madison and Evers bad enough...and then when that Lt Gov BLM guy runs for Gov and Milwaukee,Chicago and Madison stuff the ballot boxes...guess we'll have to take off but where? that's the big question...eh? |
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Posted: 6/20/2021 6:12:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: LOL I hear you on the UP and we'd like it but I don't wanna risk being under Gretchen's thumb or Lansing's... Madison and Evers bad enough...and then when that Lt Gov BLM guy runs for Gov and Milwaukee,Chicago and Madison stuff the ballot boxes...guess we'll have to take off but where? that's the big question...eh? Sending you a link by P.M. of the place my daughter has under contract in the U.P. She should close end of next week sometime, financing squared away, waiting on title company to get their shit together. 3 acres, 3 bedroom, 2 bath, newer A-frame ... with 100'+ of lake frontage on the "big" lake... Lake Superior. $240K. We're now looking at "big" boats. eta... she still has her 62 acres, "off the grid" cabin in the Ottawa. But now, she'll no longer will live 5-1/2 hours away in MN. Now she'll only be 1-1/2 hours away (by car... 3-4 hours by snowmobile ).2nd edit.... you think that witch Gretchen will get re-elected?  I doubt that very much.3rd edit: Daughter is now officially a Yooper... closed on her house yesterday (6/22). |
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Posted: 6/20/2021 6:51:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Sending you a link by P.M. of the place my daughter has under contract in the U.P. She should close end of next week sometime, financing squared away, waiting on title company to get their shit together. 3 acres, 3 bedroom, 2 bath, newer A-frame ... with 100'+ of lake frontage on the "big" lake... Lake Superior. $240K. We're now looking at "big" boats. eta... she still has her 62 acres, "off the grid" cabin in the Ottawa. But now, she'll no longer will live 5-1/2 hours away in MN. Now she'll only be 1-1/2 hours away (by car... 3-4 hours by snowmobile ).2nd edit.... you think that witch Gretchen will get re-elected? I doubt that very much.She's really up there in God's country. Lot's of nice trout streams feeding into the lake for spawning fun...lots of smelt action in L'Anse as I recall from many many years ago. I used to dive up in the Copper Harbor area 45 yrs ago...there were ton's of silver ore dumped in the bay as ships used the rocks for ballast...all kinds of treasures up there for those that have the eyes for it... I still don't think Evers got elected and the MI vote was crooked so...would she be able to get re-elected... I guess we'll see and that would surely tell us something... Glad to hear she's closer to her folks...and out of Mn. |
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Posted: 6/21/2021 4:19:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The open book sessions will get sporty that's for sure. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I was just thinking about the property taxes on these places. In the listings they show the taxes for the past few years and in most cases, they aren't too horrible. Now the place gets sold for 2-3 times what it's worth. I doubt if the property taxes will stay the same. Wouldn't you think the Co. will look and see a 100K property now sold for 300K - you think they'll keep the taxes the same? I think the county fathers are just sitting back and wringing their hands at the prospect of their new found windfall. The open book sessions will get sporty that's for sure. My tax assessed value went up 31% with this year re-evaluation. The inept folks on the town board could care less about the piles of evidence and supporting documentation I brought fourth during my appeals hearing.  It was my own fault for over paying about $30k on my new house but it’s the market we live in. Sold our house in 2 days for $20k over ask no contingencies or inspection. We lost 3 houses in bidding wars and in the 11th hour before we were officially homeless we found our current home and offered over asking. Now the town is taking advantage of the high markets and they hired some Tax Assessment outfit out of Green Bay that are a bunch of hacks. |
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Posted: 6/21/2021 6:01:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My tax assessed value went up 31% with this year re-evaluation. The inept folks on the town board could care less about the piles of evidence and supporting documentation I brought fourth during my appeals hearing. It was my own fault for over paying about $30k on my new house but it’s the market we live in. Sold our house in 2 days for $20k over ask no contingencies or inspection. We lost 3 houses in bidding wars and in the 11th hour before we were officially homeless we found our current home and offered over asking. Now the town is taking advantage of the high markets and they hired some Tax Assessment outfit out of Green Bay that are a bunch of hacks. I think that when the market collapses and they try to get blood out of turnips they will all get tarred and feathered. They certainly will deserve it. A pox on town chairmen and their suck ass cronies...and cousins who are assessors. |
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Posted: 6/23/2021 5:09:23 AM EDT
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Not sure how reliable Zillow is, but there looks to be some decent priced homes up in the UP. I'm always wary of remote places I'm not pretty familiar with though. When I lived in Ohio, most of the rural places were rife with dangerous methbilly families.
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