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Posted: 7/27/2021 7:48:39 PM EDT
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That would be fantastic if they can make it work. But consider me skeptical.
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Posted: 7/27/2021 8:14:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That would be fantastic if they can make it work. But consider me skeptical. Same boat. But Dimslee will throw our money at it because "green", so somebody will get rich trying - or pretending to - if nothing else. |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 9:02:14 PM EDT
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"This is the holy grail of atomic energy because it is clean," Inslee said. "It produces fusion power, not fission power. It does not produce nuclear waste."
Dimslee probably isn't aware of Gen IV reactor technology that will not melt down, and can run on the nuclear waste from older reactors. |
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Posted: 7/27/2021 9:07:04 PM EDT
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I guess getting taken out in a spectacular fission reactor accident would be pretty metal.
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Posted: 7/28/2021 12:34:57 AM EDT
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Inslee's stupid enough to believe the hype.
The power needed to create the plasma and contain it is immense. Where does inslee thinks that power's going to come from? Wonder how much of WA taxpayers money is going to be invested? |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 1:10:57 AM EDT
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Remember when Obama gave 500 million taxpayer dollars to Solydra....and it went out of business a year later ??
I predict the same thing happening here. |
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Posted: 7/28/2021 3:01:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Inslee's stupid enough to believe the hype. The power needed to create the plasma and contain it is immense. Where does inslee thinks that power's going to come from? Wonder how much of WA taxpayers money is going to be invested? It's going to come from all the customers who will be living with mandatory blackouts. Nothing a tax hike can't pretend to fix, though. |
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Posted: 7/31/2021 6:03:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dimslee probably isn't aware of Gen IV reactor technology that will not melt down, and can run on the nuclear waste from older reactors. He's well aware. So is every other politician. Problem is supporting nuclear power is political suicide. Reactors are the safest they've been and new designs are even safer. With the new ones, if every human running it dropped what they were doing and walked away the core would power down on its own and go cold (safe) till someone started it up again. |
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Posted: 7/31/2021 10:37:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wonder how much of WA taxpayers money is going to be invested? The question is how much will be embezzled while the project stalls and fails. |
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Posted: 8/1/2021 3:11:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's going to come from all the customers who will be living with mandatory blackouts. Nothing a tax hike can't pretend to fix, though. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Inslee's stupid enough to believe the hype. The power needed to create the plasma and contain it is immense. Where does inslee thinks that power's going to come from? Wonder how much of WA taxpayers money is going to be invested? It's going to come from all the customers who will be living with mandatory blackouts. Nothing a tax hike can't pretend to fix, though. So it will produce no net positive energy and in fact draw energy from the grid, including coal powered generation. I guess this is... ...coal-ed fusion! |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:16:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The question is how much will be embezzled while the project stalls and fails. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Wonder how much of WA taxpayers money is going to be invested? The question is how much will be embezzled while the project stalls and fails. It’s not embezzlement the code word is cost over runs, and kick backs. We are so fucked up in this state of lost causes. |
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Posted: 8/3/2021 10:20:29 PM EDT
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There has yet to be a single contained nuclear fusion plant that is energy positive even after billions in research. I doubt a group of investors could come up with enough investment to come close to that.
Renewables have a much better track record at this point than fusion. Anyone want to take a bet that Helion will fold in 5 years? |
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Posted: 8/4/2021 12:52:53 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2021 1:23:12 PM EDT
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Well dams are out gotta save the fish, oh and their classified as NON renewable energy now anyway. Kicker is you can’t run the dams at 100% and the wind farms at
The same time as the grid can. It handle the all the electricity that could otherwise be generated. |
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Posted: 8/7/2021 5:15:43 AM EDT
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Helicon raised $77m in venture capital. WA isn’t giving them any money.
One of the investors is Dustin Moskovitz, the multi-billionaire co-founder of Facebook. I’m sure he will be OK even if nothing comes from his investment. The lead scientist is a UW physics grad who has been working on the idea for over a decade. I’m glad someone is trying some innovative science and capitalism to find new sources of energy. |
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Posted: 8/7/2021 10:03:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The lead scientist is a UW physics grad who has been working on the idea for over a decade. Knowing several UW graduates in science and engineering, that inspires zero confidence. |
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Posted: 8/7/2021 2:04:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Helicon raised $77m in venture capital. WA isn’t giving them any money. One of the investors is Dustin Moskovitz, the multi-billionaire co-founder of Facebook. I’m sure he will be OK even if nothing comes from his investment. The lead scientist is a UW physics grad who has been working on the idea for over a decade. I’m glad someone is trying some innovative science and capitalism to find new sources of energy. There are around 2 dozen companies exploring fusion energy including another in Seattle (Zap) and one in nearby Burnaby, BC (General Fusion) So far, none have shown any real promise in creating a sustained fusion reaction, much less the ability to generate power from a fusion reaction as touted by Inslee. In the 25 years since I left General Atomics, which operates the D-III Tokamak Fusion Reactor, plasma energy breakeven has still not ever been achieved: The current record for energy release is held by the JET in the UK, which succeeded in generating 16 MW of fusion power, but used 24 MW of power to heat the plasma. ITER is a 35 nation consortium building a Tokamak fusion research reactor in France that is scheduled to start operations in 2025 and hopes to produce a ten-fold return on energy. Hopefully with fusion, the results will match the hype. |
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