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Posted: 9/7/2010 11:26:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/7/2010 11:33:50 PM EDT
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Awesome...
Still both bad ass to me though. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 5:37:58 AM EDT
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Stealing this.
ETA: I do have a question about that model of night vision goggles... |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 6:55:54 AM EDT
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ETA: I do have a question about that model of night vision goggles... Made by Oakley, didn't even know they made them, huh? Only for the super tacticool operators! (as seen on call of duty and other video games!) |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 7:08:07 AM EDT
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Wait,......................are you trying to say we're fighting our fore fathers ??
Because I've heard they don't eat pork (rancid or not) and the biscuit is more like a falafel. and I've never seen them pictured in a white uniform 
I just find the comparison interesting.................. 
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Posted: 9/8/2010 7:16:00 AM EDT
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Quoted: Canadiens........
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Posted: 9/8/2010 7:17:08 AM EDT
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Really?
vs 
Our soldiers are the finest fighting force in the world today. Why shouldn't they have the very best, when it comes to defending themselves and this country? |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 7:29:11 AM EDT
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Canadiens........ ?????????????????? Sometimes you have to step outside the door to view the house. My comment was neither a critisism or a judgment but simply and observation on how a different comparison could be made. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 7:46:53 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Canadiens........ ?????????????????? Sometimes you have to step outside the door to view the house. My comment was neither a critisism or a judgment but simply and observation on how a different comparison could be made. So you're a sensitive tough guy? Dammit...make up your mind so I can figure out how to best tease the ever living shit out of you.  |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 8:05:00 AM EDT
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Canadiens........ ?????????????????? Sometimes you have to step outside the door to view the house. My comment was neither a critisism or a judgment but simply and observation on how a different comparison could be made. So you're a sensitive tough guy? Dammit...make up your mind so I can figure out how to best tease the ever living shit out of you.
Not at all, I was just offering a different perspective. I realize immigrants are viewed a little different, but I will play it as a card when it suits a situation. (See the "Decision Decision thread" where I threw out a challenge to try and kick my canuckian ass,..............after all, canadian can't shoot worth a shit, (Perry & Furlong excepted) 
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Posted: 9/8/2010 8:13:26 AM EDT
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Let's face it, life for ALL of us is easier than it was for our forefathers.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 10:10:54 AM EDT
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I don't see any NVG's, the M4 with all that shit weighs well over 10 lbs.
Although one thing is probably the same. Shitty officers ordering their men into unnecessarily risky situations to make themselves look better and get their full bird.  ETA: and my deployment was 15 months not 1 year.  |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 1:40:29 PM EDT
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The new NVGs will have thermal capability........we own the night..............
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Posted: 9/8/2010 1:42:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: The new NVGs will have thermal capability........we own the night.............. Yeah, saw a pair of em right before I got out. Pretty sweet. CG was showing em off to his minions. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 2:34:22 PM EDT
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We had some and played with them.....and then they went right back into the arms room. Word was they cost 15k each
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Posted: 9/8/2010 2:41:02 PM EDT
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We had some and played with them.....and then they went right back into the arms room. Word was they cost 15k each Did you read the GD thread about the guy that bought one of the thermal scopes as broken surplus for a couple hundred and replaced the battery cover and it fired right up? T |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 4:44:14 PM EDT
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We had some and played with them.....and then they went right back into the arms room. Word was they cost 15k each Did you read the GD thread about the guy that bought one of the thermal scopes as broken surplus for a couple hundred and replaced the battery cover and it fired right up? T They dont DRMO bodyarmor...but they DRMO thermal optics?? |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 5:01:24 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We had some and played with them.....and then they went right back into the arms room. Word was they cost 15k each Did you read the GD thread about the guy that bought one of the thermal scopes as broken surplus for a couple hundred and replaced the battery cover and it fired right up? T They dont DRMO bodyarmor...but they DRMO thermal optics?? Wonder if: 1. One is an "implement of war" and one is not or 2. The armor is considered "expired" and would open DRMO to legal issues if someone bought it, used it, and it didn't work. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 5:04:56 PM EDT
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They don't DRMO body armor because the .gov types don't think joe civilian should have it. And these days it is all being passed on to the Iraq and Afghanistan gubments just like or used up vehicles.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 5:13:00 PM EDT
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They have been cutting them up with large ban saws....from what I was told last time I hit DRMO....They don't DRMO body armor because the .gov types don't think joe civilian should have it. And these days it is all being passed on to the Iraq and Afghanistan gubments just like or used up vehicles.  .........
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Posted: 9/8/2010 5:56:49 PM EDT
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Sad. I know they were(at one point) taking the black SAPI plates they were exchanging for the green ESAPI's to incoming units in Kuwait and shipping them off to the Iraqi Army.
So my supply guy said anyway.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 6:13:41 PM EDT
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18th century tribesmen?
Where I was we were up against BM-21's, M113's with TOW hammerheads, and artillary that outranged ours... |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 6:25:22 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: We had some and played with them.....and then they went right back into the arms room. Word was they cost 15k each Did you read the GD thread about the guy that bought one of the thermal scopes as broken surplus for a couple hundred and replaced the battery cover and it fired right up? T They dont DRMO bodyarmor...but they DRMO thermal optics?? Ask TacticalWookie, the list of shit they DO surplus is as as the shit they don't. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 7:03:57 PM EDT
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Thats probably all OCONUS property easier and cheaper to give it away there than bring it back or destroy it in theater...
Sad. I know they were(at one point) taking the black SAPI plates they were exchanging for the green ESAPI's to incoming units in Kuwait and shipping them off to the Iraqi Army. So my supply guy said anyway. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 7:06:41 PM EDT
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That shit doesn't weigh 6.9 lbs. with the ACOG, 203, and PEQ-2 on it...but yeah, that is pretty cool. Sometimes we forget just how damn rough guys had it back in the day.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 7:32:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: Who knows, but the people that did that exchange had the regular SAPIs issued at CIF and came home with the ESAPIs. No idea if their clothing record got corrected but thats what they get for missing RFI. Quoted: Thats probably all OCONUS property easier and cheaper to give it away there than bring it back or destroy it in theater...Sad. I know they were(at one point) taking the black SAPI plates they were exchanging for the green ESAPI's to incoming units in Kuwait and shipping them off to the Iraqi Army. So my supply guy said anyway.  |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 8:04:52 PM EDT
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More Joes on Page #2
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Posted: 9/8/2010 8:13:27 PM EDT
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Only ARFCOM does a group of people pick apart a joke, err reminder, err something.
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Posted: 9/8/2010 8:22:02 PM EDT
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I want to carry the 6.9 pound fucking air weight m4 with all that way light weight shit on it.
Next deployment. Dibbs. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 8:22:57 PM EDT
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I want to carry the 6.9 pound fucking air weight m4 with all that way light weight shit on it. Next deployment. Dibbs. Exactly. Got that and the NODs wrong, for sure!
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Posted: 9/8/2010 9:20:50 PM EDT
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Only ARFCOM does a group of people, comprised of many former and current service members, pick apart a joke, err reminder, err something.
Semper! |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 5:26:36 AM EDT
[#31]
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Wait,......................are you trying to say we're fighting our fore fathers ?? Because I've heard they don't eat pork (rancid or not) and the biscuit is more like a falafel. and I've never seen them pictured in a white uniform
I just find the comparison interesting..................
Indeed. 200 yrs ago, GB was the shit, and we were the ragheads rag tag "army" that couldn't even feed or shoe our troops...and we fought "dishonorably", firing from behind IED's trees, and worse––we deliberately aimed for their officers. 
Not a combat vet, but it seems to me that war is a very fluid situation, and the willingness of the home front to support it is as important as the frontline itself. The troops can be tough as nails...but if they are spit on when they come home (or while they are there), that affects things. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:34:27 AM EDT
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<snip> Not a combat vet, but it seems to me that war is a very fluid situation, and the willingness of the home front to support it is as important as the frontline itself. The troops can be tough as nails...but if they are spit on when they come home (or while they are there), that affects things. Sadly its our political leaders that are defeating us. This nice idea that we should fight a nice clean war against an enemy so we don't kill to many of them. War is war, play to win or go home. Play for a tie and your just losing good men in a wasted cause. War is NOT suppost to be nice. YMMV. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 12:32:03 PM EDT
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If you don't like what you see...
Don't look. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 3:03:26 PM EDT
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Quoted: we fought "dishonorably", firing from behind IED's trees, and worse––we deliberately aimed for their officers. True initially but by the end we were fighting, and beating, England on her own terms thanks to the French and that dilettante Prussian drill instructor. There are phases to any insurgency and any one that goes long enough (and picks up a foreign sponsor) ends in a conventional war. The NVA didn't ride water buffalo into Saigon in '75.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 7:50:42 PM EDT
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<snip> Not a combat vet, but it seems to me that war is a very fluid situation, and the willingness of the home front to support it is as important as the frontline itself. The troops can be tough as nails...but if they are spit on when they come home (or while they are there), that affects things. Sadly its our political leaders that are defeating us. This nice idea that we should fight a nice clean war against an enemy so we don't kill to many of them. War is war, play to win or go home. Play for a tie and your just losing good men in a wasted cause. War is NOT suppost to be nice. YMMV. True all, but I find the comment in red verruh interesting...."our political leaders are defeating us." The French said much the same in 1954 (end of the Indochina conflict). They weren't defeated on the battlefield, but in Paris. France at the time was about to go full-bore socialist; I wonder if we are....wait, never mind, we're almost there. Interesting times we live in, eh? |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 8:33:28 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Who knows, but the people that did that exchange had the regular SAPIs issued at CIF and came home with the ESAPIs. No idea if their clothing record got corrected but thats what they get for missing RFI. Quoted: Thats probably all OCONUS property easier and cheaper to give it away there than bring it back or destroy it in theater...Sad. I know they were(at one point) taking the black SAPI plates they were exchanging for the green ESAPI's to incoming units in Kuwait and shipping them off to the Iraqi Army. So my supply guy said anyway. The first rule of supply... In God we trust. All others will sign a hand reciept. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 8:35:13 PM EDT
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Keep copies of everything....fyi..hard copy hand reciepts are only legal for one year from date of signing......thats why we have OCIE show downs and resigning yearly..
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Who knows, but the people that did that exchange had the regular SAPIs issued at CIF and came home with the ESAPIs. No idea if their clothing record got corrected but thats what they get for missing RFI. Quoted:
Thats probably all OCONUS property easier and cheaper to give it away there than bring it back or destroy it in theater...
Sad. I know they were(at one point) taking the black SAPI plates they were exchanging for the green ESAPI's to incoming units in Kuwait and shipping them off to the Iraqi Army. So my supply guy said anyway.
The first rule of supply... In God we trust. All others will sign a hand reciept. |
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Posted: 9/9/2010 11:14:12 PM EDT
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Stealing this. ETA: I do have a question about that model of night vision goggles... Apparently it's a Mk-1, Mod-0 eyeball. |
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Posted: 9/10/2010 4:21:32 PM EDT
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We had some and played with them.....and then they went right back into the arms room. Word was they cost 15k each Did you read the GD thread about the guy that bought one of the thermal scopes as broken surplus for a couple hundred and replaced the battery cover and it fired right up? T I vaguely remember that thread, but these are different thermals. They're like PVS 14's, but tan and run thermal. They can go 2x and take digital recordings. Pretty badass. I would lose my mind if I lost one or was responsible for a lost one. |
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Posted: 9/10/2010 4:22:17 PM EDT
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Sad. I know they were(at one point) taking the black SAPI plates they were exchanging for the green ESAPI's to incoming units in Kuwait and shipping them off to the Iraqi Army. So my supply guy said anyway. Oh and this is Fact. IA and Pesh definitely had our old black SAPIs |
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Posted: 9/10/2010 5:32:15 PM EDT
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This nice idea that we should fight a nice clean war against an enemy so we don't kill to many of them. War is war, play to win or go home. Play for a tie and your just losing good men in a wasted cause. War is NOT suppost to be nice. YMMV. Quoted:
war SHOULD be ended as quickly as possible, war is hell. That's why it's supposed to be a last resort. |
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Posted: 9/10/2010 5:42:53 PM EDT
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I had the misfortune of driving our Commander and a Platoon Sgt to Doha from FOB New York......the E7 misplaced his PVS14s on a bus and a paki turned them in to CID....that was an uncomfortable ride.......Quoted:
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We had some and played with them.....and then they went right back into the arms room. Word was they cost 15k each Did you read the GD thread about the guy that bought one of the thermal scopes as broken surplus for a couple hundred and replaced the battery cover and it fired right up? T I vaguely remember that thread, but these are different thermals. They're like PVS 14's, but tan and run thermal. They can go 2x and take digital recordings. Pretty badass. I would lose my mind if I lost one or was responsible for a lost one.
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Posted: 9/10/2010 5:45:20 PM EDT
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hahaha, or a guy who misplaced 4 BFT hard drives on the haj bus, or the guy who lost his M4/68/peq2, or the guy who lost the CHATS computer......amazing what can happen. I would've liked to have heard your conversation though
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Posted: 9/10/2010 5:51:16 PM EDT
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hahaha, or a guy who misplaced 4 BFT hard drives on the haj bus, or the guy who lost his M4/68/peq2, or the guy who lost the CHATS computer......amazing what can happen. I would've liked to have heard your conversation though Moments of extreme silence interlaced with cussing/screaming from the CMDR the occasional sob...the BN CMDR reamed his ass....the E7...acted like...WTF....really is it that big a deal...which simply poured more gas on the fire............I got to go to the PX at DOHA though, so that was a plus.... ...that E7 made MSG eventually....good guy...shit happens.
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Posted: 9/10/2010 6:30:01 PM EDT
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Eh, only pvs-14's. Can buy em on the internet.
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) are the ones where desperate officers and arms room personnel frantically try to "recreate" serial numbers with a metal file and a sharp, pointy object. |
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Posted: 9/10/2010 6:41:47 PM EDT
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Eh, only pvs-14's. Can buy em on the internet. ETA: The best stories(hypothetical of course ) are the ones where desperate officers and arms room personnel frantically try to "recreate" serial numbers with a metal file and a sharp, pointy object. Or a dremel for the HQ PSG's missing ACOG? |
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Posted: 9/10/2010 7:03:51 PM EDT
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Bring your own shit.
If you've paid for it, you take better care of it. |
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Posted: 9/10/2010 7:12:58 PM EDT
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Some units dont allow it....
Bring your own shit. If you've paid for it, you take better care of it. |
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Posted: 9/10/2010 7:14:25 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Some units dont allow it....Bring your own shit. If you've paid for it, you take better care of it. Fuck them! ETA: With Matt45's dick! |
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Posted: 9/10/2010 7:20:01 PM EDT
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I used my own optics. Eotech and ACOG. When my CO asked my what happened to my M68 I told him its hard to turn it on without a power knob.
This was in Kuwait just days before we flew up to BIAP.
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