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Posted: 9/5/2010 5:47:50 AM EDT
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Washington State Legal References & Links
Please check here before posting legal topics http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=510 |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 7:43:28 AM EDT
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I read it. It does not tell me if I can bring an already registered SBR into WA
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Posted: 9/5/2010 8:14:46 AM EDT
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Cliff Notes:
Own suppressors but don't shoot with them. DD & AOWs are OK. Sign offs can be problematic Except for a few exceptions: No FA No SBR No SBS Pretty clear to me. |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 8:22:20 AM EDT
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I read it. It does not tell me if I can bring an already registered SBR into WA Can you? That is up to you. If you do it is up to the DA. Should you ? YMMV. Was that so hard? |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 9:15:27 AM EDT
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Thanks guys. The places to live list just got shorter.
Nice and friendly there too. |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 9:22:42 AM EDT
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Thanks guys. The places to live list just got shorter. Nice and friendly there too. We aim to please,.............................................. 
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Posted: 9/5/2010 9:52:57 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By bpjohnm The places to live list just got shorter. Nice and friendly there too. Our stories are much better in person. Honest.  |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 9:59:47 AM EDT
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I blame TRG
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Posted: 9/5/2010 12:49:16 PM EDT
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sure you can, if you're a dealer and looking to sell it to a LEO.
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Posted: 9/5/2010 12:56:50 PM EDT
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you an 07 SOT?
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Posted: 9/5/2010 12:57:47 PM EDT
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Quoted: Thanks guys. The places to live list just got shorter. Nice and friendly there too.  Don't go away mad..... |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 1:01:33 PM EDT
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....just go away.
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Posted: 9/5/2010 1:22:16 PM EDT
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you an 07 SOT? You don't have to be an 07, even an 01 can possess them. You just have too many 07 friends that got them so they could make their own cool toys.... er, I mean LE demo guns. |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 1:33:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: Thanks guys. The places to live list just got shorter. Nice and friendly there too. See ya.  |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 4:31:07 PM EDT
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I read it. It does not tell me if I can bring an already registered SBR into WA Seriously? Let's see.... Here's the link I posted: http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=510 Read that post, don't find what you're looking for, let's see, apply common sense, some logic and a 5th grade education and what do you get? PCR-00s Washington State Gun Related RCWs Page http://www.ar15.com/content/page.html?id=183 Follow that link and guess what the fucking la-dee-da you get.... Chapter 9.41 RCW FIREARMS AND DANGEROUS WEAPONS RCW 9.41.190 Unlawful firearms –– Exceptions. (SBR, Machine Guns, Etc) Follow that link and ohmyfuckinggod you get this: RCW 9.41.190 Unlawful firearms — Exceptions. (1) It is unlawful for any person to manufacture, own, buy, sell, loan, furnish, transport, or have in possession or under control, any machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; or any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for use in a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or in converting a weapon into a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; or to assemble or repair any machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle. (2) This section shall not apply to: (a) Any peace officer in the discharge of official duty or traveling to or from official duty, or to any officer or member of the armed forces of the United States or the state of Washington in the discharge of official duty or traveling to or from official duty; or (b) A person, including an employee of such person if the employee has undergone fingerprinting and a background check, who or which is exempt from or licensed under federal law, and engaged in the production, manufacture, repair, or testing of machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, or short-barreled rifles: (i) To be used or purchased by the armed forces of the United States; (ii) To be used or purchased by federal, state, county, or municipal law enforcement agencies; or (iii) For exportation in compliance with all applicable federal laws and regulations. (3) It shall be an affirmative defense to a prosecution brought under this section that the machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle was acquired prior to July 1, 1994, and is possessed in compliance with federal law. (4) Any person violating this section is guilty of a class C felony. Following simple instructions posted in the "Resource" section of the WA HTF is a litmus test to gauge the intelligence of prospective WA residents. The results of your test indicate you should move to Austin, Texas. |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 4:41:16 PM EDT
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You cant have SBRs? I got like 130 of them.....................do the shorty barrels on the saws make them SBR/MGs??
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Posted: 9/5/2010 5:11:45 PM EDT
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You cant have SBRs? I got like 130 of them.....................do the shorty barrels on the saws make them SBR/MGs?? ......Yeah but you can only take em off post on Thursdays. Nobody can stop ya on Sgt's time. |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 5:19:16 PM EDT
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But they have to be in a POV...............Quoted:
You cant have SBRs? I got like 130 of them.....................do the shorty barrels on the saws make them SBR/MGs?? ......Yeah but you can only take em off post on Thursdays. Nobody can stop ya on Sgt's time. 
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Posted: 9/5/2010 5:28:38 PM EDT
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Thanks guys. The places to live list just got shorter. Nice and friendly there too. Because you can't have an SBR here or because of the treatment you got for your pre-answered question? Either way... 
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Posted: 9/5/2010 5:36:42 PM EDT
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Thanks guys. The places to live list just got shorter. Nice and friendly there too. Be sure to tell everyone else in the other 49 states and territories.......... .
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Posted: 9/5/2010 7:54:35 PM EDT
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especially california!
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Posted: 9/5/2010 8:04:40 PM EDT
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Quoted: You don't have to be an 07, even an 01 can possess them. Not to possess in general but to possess in WA right?  |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 8:27:47 PM EDT
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You don't have to be an 07, even an 01 can possess them. Not to possess in general but to possess in WA right? Yeah of course. Federally you just have to get your tax stamp after sending in your Form 4 and $200 tax and waiting for a few months. Same as a machine gun, SBS, or suppressor. A person who just wants to own one doesn't need a "class 3 license" as many people mistakenly think. State laws vary and can be more restrictive of course. So did I pass teacher?
Just re-read the RCW. Not quite sure what they mean by "testing." (b) A person, including an employee of such person if the employee has undergone fingerprinting and a background check, who or which is exempt from or licensed under federal law, and engaged in the production, manufacture, repair, or testing of machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, or short-barreled rifles:
(i) To be used or purchased by the armed forces of the United States; (ii) To be used or purchased by federal, state, county, or municipal law enforcement agencies; or (iii) For exportation in compliance with all applicable federal laws and regulations. Does it mean testing like a maker would test it for problems and repair? Or testing like you'd test drive a car for suitability? |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 10:46:20 PM EDT
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But they have to be in a POV...............Quoted:
You cant have SBRs? I got like 130 of them.....................do the shorty barrels on the saws make them SBR/MGs?? ......Yeah but you can only take em off post on Thursdays. Nobody can stop ya on Sgt's time.
Bwahah, just dont let any gangster relatives in the car. On Topic Comment - I contacted both the ATFE Washington Division AND the Washington AG asking if I could get a written exception under the terms that my SBR would be stored under lock and key at my DOD Arms room, along with all the other bitty doom shooters I handle year round. I even added that it would not leave the post until I received PCS orders to a different duty station. Each responded three weeks later directing me to the other. I then attached their respective emails to emails to each other. No response. Sent again four months later. No Response. |
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Posted: 9/5/2010 10:49:43 PM EDT
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Just re-read the RCW. Not quite sure what they mean by "testing." (b) A person, including an employee of such person if the employee has undergone fingerprinting and a background check, who or which is exempt from or licensed under federal law, and engaged in the production, manufacture, repair, or testing of machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, or short-barreled rifles:
(i) To be used or purchased by the armed forces of the United States; (ii) To be used or purchased by federal, state, county, or municipal law enforcement agencies; or (iii) For exportation in compliance with all applicable federal laws and regulations. Does it mean testing like a maker would test it for problems and repair? Or testing like you'd test drive a car for suitability? As property of the armed forces of the united states, since I plan on using my stamped and registered SBR in a training capacity I should be gtg? Ill just send em your way i they have questions or need a dog to wax. Sound good>
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Posted: 9/5/2010 11:14:04 PM EDT
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Still no love on two.
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Posted: 9/5/2010 11:18:03 PM EDT
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+1 and overquoting
Quoted: especially california! T |
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Posted: 9/6/2010 6:56:26 AM EDT
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Well if you owned it prior to 1994 and then you should be fine.
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Posted: 9/6/2010 8:08:57 AM EDT
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Thanks guys. The places to live list just got shorter. Nice and friendly there too. Keep Washington green. Leave your money and go home. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 9/6/2010 11:03:02 AM EDT
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Looks like another satisfied outsider. Go team.
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Posted: 9/6/2010 12:06:49 PM EDT
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Now if we can convice about 4 million others to leave........
Looks like another satisfied outsider. Go team. |
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Posted: 9/6/2010 12:18:33 PM EDT
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Quoted: Fix'd.Quoted: Thanks guys. The places to live list just got shorter. Nice and friendly there too. Keep Washington green. Leave your money and go stay home. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Posted Via AR15.Com Stationary |
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Posted: 9/6/2010 1:19:51 PM EDT
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Now if we can convice about 4 million others to leave........
Looks like another satisfied outsider. Go team. All the illegals and democrats on the wet side? I'm all for it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2010 1:25:57 PM EDT
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..Can we throw in a few hundred thousand from our side as well........?Quoted:
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Now if we can convice about 4 million others to leave........
Looks like another satisfied outsider. Go team. All the illegals and democrats on the wet side? I'm all for it. .ID and Western MT...may want to get in on this as well...
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Posted: 9/6/2010 4:32:45 PM EDT
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Now if we can convice about 4 million others most of King County to leave........
Looks like another satisfied outsider. Go team. Fixt! |
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Posted: 9/6/2010 5:25:26 PM EDT
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Now if we can convice about 4 million others to leave........
Looks like another satisfied outsider. Go team. Easy: FREE Toyota Priuses at the Obama Rally! Chicago Illinois all expenses paid! |
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Posted: 9/6/2010 8:41:00 PM EDT
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Now if we can convice about 4 million others most of King County to leave........
Looks like another satisfied outsider. Go team. Fixt! Be nice, now... Some of us are the only thing that stands between you folks and all of Bellevue.
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Posted: 9/6/2010 10:26:56 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: But they have to be in a POV...............Quoted: You cant have SBRs? I got like 130 of them.....................do the shorty barrels on the saws make them SBR/MGs?? ......Yeah but you can only take em off post on Thursdays. Nobody can stop ya on Sgt's time. If you're a Fugly as dead fish bisexual female, commissioned as an Officer in the Transportation Branch, and assigned to an Infantry BN....Then it's all good. At least so we've seen.
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