Girl, 5, escapes kidnap attempt

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Posted: 8/16/2005 6:25:51 AM EDT

Girl, 5, escapes kidnap attempt
By Diana Hefley and Krista J. Kapralos
Herald Writers

EVERETT - A 5-year-old girl escaped the grasp of a stranger who kidnapped her from her bed Monday morning, Snohomish County sheriff's officials said.

The suspected abductor, a 20-year-old man, was captured shortly after he was spotted by a sheriff's deputy outside the same apartment complex in the 800 block of 112th Street SW.

Police say the man lives in the same 216-unit apartment complex as the girl. It wasn't clear Monday if he had targeted the family or if it was a random attack.

He slipped inside the apartment through an unlocked sliding glass door of a ground-level unit just before 5 a.m., sheriff's Chief Tom Greene said.

The man walked through the apartment to the girl's bedroom, grabbed her and ran out the front door with the girl in his arms, deputy Rich Niebusch said.

"It's every parent's worst nightmare," Niebusch said.

The girl screamed and struggled to free herself. Her screams woke her parents, who called 911 and chased after the man, who was holding their daughter.

The man ran about 100 yards before the little girl was able to free herself from his grasp. He ran off but was spotted loitering near the entrance to the complex on 112th Street SW.

The man was arrested and booked into the Snohomish County Jail for investigation of first-degree kidnapping and second-degree burglary.

He had lived at the apartment complex for about a year and has no criminal history, Niebusch said.

Police say the girl should be commended for her bravery and quick thinking.

"Due to the (girl's) courage and tenacity, she was able to escape," Greene said. "We're pretty proud of this little gal."

She was slightly injured and was taken to a local hospital for treatment.

The family was unavailable for comment Monday.

Snohomish County deputy prosecutor Craig Matheson said he could not recall the last time a child was abducted by a stranger in the county.

"In the vast majority of cases, the assailants are known to the family," he said.

It is unusual for strangers to abduct children; usually, the abductor is a relative or someone known to family members, said Susan Miller of the State Patrol's Missing Children Clearinghouse.

"There aren't that many of them in the nation, perhaps less than 1 percent," she said. "They just aren't common."

Parents should remember to do one last check at night to make sure their home is secure, she said.

I think they left out: 'Parents should remember to do one last check at night to make sure their home is secure and that the shotgun is at the ready'

Not that I'm saying they should be shooting at someone who is fleeing with their child.

Posted: 8/16/2005 7:25:28 AM EDT

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Not that I'm saying they should be shooting at someone who is fleeing with their child.

NO but if the dad had grabed it on the way out he could have shot a time or two in the air. The kidnapper most likely would have shit his pants and stoped. Being 100 yrads behind is not that far for sound to travel.....

Posted: 8/16/2005 7:31:16 AM EDT

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Not that I'm saying they should be shooting at someone who is fleeing with their child.

NO but if the dad had grabed it on the way out he could have shot a time or two in the air. The kidnapper most likely would have shit his pants and stoped. Being 100 yrads behind is not that far for sound to travel.....

I get the impression that they were closer than that. The article read that the parents ran after the kidnapper who managed to get 100 years from the apartment.

Yet another scenario to think about in this day and age.

Posted: 8/16/2005 7:57:34 AM EDT

[#3]

Wow, this was right down the road from my house.....

Posted: 8/16/2005 8:10:30 AM EDT

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I get the impression that they were closer than that. The article read that the parents ran after the kidnapper who managed to get 100 years from the apartment.

Yet another scenario to think about in this day and age.

Well if that was the case & it were me the guy would have been a dead kiddnapper. I believe it would have be justafide to shoot this POS in the back running away with my kid. I know I would have if I were armed with a 1911 or rifle and it were under 75 yards but not a shotty. I'm glad the girl is OK but this POS will most likely walk in a year or two.

Posted: 8/16/2005 9:17:58 AM EDT

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I get the impression that they were closer than that. The article read that the parents ran after the kidnapper who managed to get 100 years from the apartment.

Yet another scenario to think about in this day and age.

Well if that was the case & it were me the guy would have been a dead kiddnapper. I believe it would have be justafide to shoot this POS in the back running away with my kid. I know I would have if I were armed with a 1911 or rifle and it were under 75 yards but not a shotty. I'm glad the girl is OK but this POS will most likely walk in a year or two.

Don't forget about overpenetration!

Headshot

Posted: 8/16/2005 9:52:02 AM EDT

[#6]

Or.... Ass or Leg shot.

Posted: 8/16/2005 11:15:57 AM EDT

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Quoted:
Quoted:

Well if that was the case & it were me the guy would have been a dead kiddnapper. I believe it would have be justafide to shoot this POS in the back running away with my kid. I know I would have if I were armed with a 1911 or rifle and it were under 75 yards but not a shotty. I'm glad the girl is OK but this POS will most likely walk in a year or two.

Don't forget about overpenetration!

Headshot

This is why the AR carbine is probably the best home defense rifle. It gives the capability of those 100 yard shots, but is very unlikely to over-penetrate even at point blank range. I also believe indoors that 5.56 ammo wil penetrate fewer walls than 9mm or 45 ACP. With a light and an Aimpoint or BAC ACOG, you can do the close up shooting, or take the perp down at distance.

I'd like to find a way to secure a fully loaded AR next to my bed. Something that totally covers the trigger, action and mag well, while still allowing a magazine to be inserted. My 2 year is way to curious and into "stuff" to have anything less secure. I haven't really seen anything that would work quite right.

Posted: 8/16/2005 11:53:59 AM EDT

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I expect to hear from some of my neighbors after this. I have a standing invitation to some of the lunatics that live around me for a free trip to the range. Some of them have actually gotten the message after calling the local constablery. That second and a half response time has taken on some real meaning.

Somebody want to explain again why child molestation and rape aren't capital crimes?

Posted: 8/16/2005 2:30:30 PM EDT

[#9]

Guess I need to practice my head shots. If he was grabbing one of my daughters I'd gladly risk the prison time. Guys like that really piss me off!!!!!!!!!

Posted: 8/16/2005 5:32:13 PM EDT

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Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:

Well if that was the case & it were me the guy would have been a dead kiddnapper. I believe it would have be justafide to shoot this POS in the back running away with my kid. I know I would have if I were armed with a 1911 or rifle and it were under 75 yards but not a shotty. I'm glad the girl is OK but this POS will most likely walk in a year or two.

Don't forget about overpenetration!

Headshot

This is why the AR carbine is probably the best home defense rifle. It gives the capability of those 100 yard shots, but is very unlikely to over-penetrate even at point blank range. I also believe indoors that 5.56 ammo Will penetrate fewer walls than 9mm or 45 ACP. With a light and an Aimpoint or BAC ACOG, you can do the close up shooting, or take the perp down at distance.

I'd like to find a way to secure a fully loaded AR next to my bed. Something that totally covers the trigger, action and mag well, while still allowing a magazine to be inserted. My 2 year is way to curious and into "stuff" to have anything less secure. I haven't really seen anything that would work quite right.

You might want to look up the Box of truth in the Ammo forum.(It was a Ammo test done by a old guy in Texas) A 223 Will penetrate way more than you think.

Posted: 8/16/2005 6:41:23 PM EDT

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He slipped inside the apartment through an unlocked sliding glass door of a ground-level unit just before 5 a.m., sheriff's Chief Tom Greene said.

Unlocked door? At a ground level apt.? At 5 am? WTF?

The girl screamed and struggled to free herself. Her screams woke her parents, who called 911 and chased after the man, who was holding their daughter.

Smart kid. Good for her!

Police say the girl should be commended for her bravery and quick thinking.

"Due to the (girl's) courage and tenacity, she was able to escape," Greene said. "We're pretty proud of this little gal."

Damn right. Hell, I'm proud of her and don't even know her.

Parents should remember to do one last check at night to make sure their home is secure, she said.

I think this would be just common sense. As the last person to go to bed in our house, I ALWAYS check the doors and windows, and look in on the kids befire I go to bed.

Posted: 8/16/2005 7:57:29 PM EDT

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You might want to look up the Box of truth in the Ammo forum.(It was a Ammo test done by a old guy in Texas) A 223 Will penetrate way more than you think.

I'm sure it will penetrate, I never said it wouldn't. You still need to be careful about where your shots are going. I still believe that after passing through one wall, an M193 round will have less wounding potential than a 9mm. Even if it is the same, or slightly higher, I still feel it is a better choice.

The "box of truth" website is down so I can't read what they have to say, and the debate here on ARFCOM was rather....energetic.

Debate here on ARFCOM

It depends on ammunition, I'm sure. Look at the results from Federal. I need to get some of those Federal Tactical 62 Grain BSPs for barrier penetration though!

Posted: 8/17/2005 3:46:27 PM EDT

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Somebody want to explain again why child molestation and rape aren't capital crimes?

Im guessing because most of our elected officials are guilty of some form of rape and molestation, and It hits too close to home.

All Im going to say is this guy should be worm food at this point.

Posted: 8/17/2005 5:22:16 PM EDT

[#14]

Wouldn't mind trying Federal Tap for personal defense ammo myself. At this point I have Win.64 grn power point.

I have a large male pit bull living across the street form me. The owner is very responsible. but you never know. So I keep a mag of Winchester with the rifle just in case.

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