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Posted: 12/15/2021 12:02:44 AM EDT
update 20220314
BFA is reporting that Gov. Dewine signed SB 215 into law! Ohio Governor DeWine Signs BFA-Supported Permitless Carry Bill  ...however, will not take "effect" until 90 days from now... update 20220302 senate passes amended SB 215 !!! bill now will go to dewine! 24-8 update 20220302 the amended SB 215 passed floor vote 57 - 35!!!! ..no additional floor amendments were added...  ---------------------------------------------------------- update 20220301 SB 215 was amended and passed Gov't Oversight Committee 8-5! -------------------------------------------------------------- update 20220208 SB 215 is receiving attention in the House Gov't Oversight Committee! Constitutional Carry Bill Moves Rapidly, Emergency Power Bill Passes Committee  ---------------------------- update: 20211215 SB 215 passes senate 23-8!  ------------------------------------------------- ...folks, for clarity, SB 215 is the Senate's current "version" of constitutional carry. It is distinct from HB 227 that passed the House last month. BFA is reporting that SB 215 has passed committee and may be up for a floor vote: CALL TO ACTION: SB 215 for Constitutional Carry Headed to Floor Vote
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Posted: 12/15/2021 2:19:55 PM EDT
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Senate session scheduled for today at 1:30PM... i would expect that the committee passage would be reported in session, ...will it be voted on?...
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Posted: 12/15/2021 2:35:51 PM EDT
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session livestream: https://www.ohiochannel.org/live/ohio-senate
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Posted: 12/15/2021 2:40:40 PM EDT
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SB 215 committee passage reported to senate...
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:45:37 PM EDT
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Sen. Johnson is bringing up SB 215!!!!
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:46:58 PM EDT
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SB 215 was amended in committee to tweak duty-to-notify (notify only when asked)...
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Posted: 12/15/2021 3:58:08 PM EDT
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Sen. Johnson giving a rousing speech... lambasting the "opposition", calling out them out for their hypocrisy in touting "rising crime" when it's them, the "defund-the-police" woke tards in blue cities who have enabled it!
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:14:50 PM EDT
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...here come the democrats:
 cecil thomas trying to make an argument that the "bad guys" think twice about carrying a gun because of the current 8-hour training requirement for concealed carry... ..i kid you not! |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:17:05 PM EDT
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wait, ...now he's going back and doubling down on it ("bad guys" deterred by the concealed carry law)..
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:21:02 PM EDT
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nickie antonio: trying to conflate drivers license training with RTKBA...
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:28:56 PM EDT
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nirage antani: making argument of this being a "constitutional issue", ...calling out the democrats for their ridiculous politicization of high profile "shootings", equating RTKBA with "priveledges" such as driving, etc.!
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:31:17 PM EDT
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antani laying into the democrats for their abject dismissal of constitutional rights/freedom, interactions with police ("the state"), probable cause, reasonable suspicion, etc.!!!
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:31:55 PM EDT
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teresa fedor: this is an "anti-police bill"...
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:35:32 PM EDT
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the party of "defund-the-police" is actually trying to argue that proponents of constitutional carry are "anti-police"...
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:42:05 PM EDT
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ha, ..and the next democrat up mentions that people wouldn't be rioting/protesting if people werent' unnecessarily dying at hands of police!!!
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:43:22 PM EDT
[#15]
...the demokrat party is schizophrenic, so, ...they're "pro-police", except when it's time to be "anti-police"...
...can't make it up... |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:47:25 PM EDT
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I have been listening, the last few democrats keep bringing up the idea that just because the constitution might allow carrying guns, doesn't mean the state has to allow it.
 Did they even pass high school government class? |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:48:51 PM EDT
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sen. johnson just flipped the demokrat's doo doo on their heads: "when are you going to be responsible for the lives lost if this bill doesn't pass?"
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:49:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have been listening, the last few democrats keep bringing up the idea that just because the constitution might allow carrying guns, doesn't mean the state has to allow it. Did they even pass high school government class? ...they have honorary degrees from Mao university... |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:52:11 PM EDT
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...this is hilarious, ...becoming a mud-flinging contest over "defund the police", ...the demokrats are on the defensive and keep saying they don't want to defund the police...
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:57:16 PM EDT
[#20]
roll call!
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Posted: 12/15/2021 4:58:45 PM EDT
[#21]
23 yea 8 nay
SB 215 is passed by the Senate!!!! 
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:10:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: wait, ...now he's going back and doubling down on it ("bad guys" deterred by the concealed carry law).. I don't think it deters most good guys either. Glad it passed. |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:11:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:14:58 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryWhat is different from the HB? |
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Posted: 12/15/2021 5:21:15 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/15/2021 6:16:21 PM EDT
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Will this over rule the law of not being able to carry a handgun while deer hunting or training dogs? If you have a CHL you are good.
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Posted: 12/15/2021 8:14:21 PM EDT
[#27]
So this means it need to be reconciled at this point, right?
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Posted: 12/15/2021 9:30:19 PM EDT
[#28]
Good news!
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Posted: 12/15/2021 10:28:14 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So this means it need to be reconciled at this point, right? correct... now we have two different bills doing basically the same thing, but they are two different bills, ..and, thus, in order to get a singular version to the governor's desk, both chambers must agree/pass the same "bill" version/language. they could do this a few ways: 1) house passes SB 215 as is... 2) senate passes HB 227 as is... 3) house and senate convene conference committees to hash out differences, ..then get each respective chamber to pass the new language.. 4) one chamber, or the other, passes the other's version, but only after amending it, ..which then would put the onus on the other chamber to agree to the amended version... 5) ... |
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Posted: 12/16/2021 1:56:49 AM EDT
[#30]
Thanks for, as always, the spotlight on matters that concern all of us. Much better outcome (so far) over the bills that the fucking house and senate "debated" about covid mandates
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Posted: 12/16/2021 8:38:45 AM EDT
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I feel like they do this on purpose. Instead of just passing the HB they change it so now it can get stuck somewhere and never get to the gov desk. Both the House and Senate can say they voted for it, but nothing really got done.
I pray that I'm wrong..... |
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Posted: 12/16/2021 10:07:04 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel like they do this on purpose. Instead of just passing the HB they change it so now it can get stuck somewhere and never get to the gov desk. Both the House and Senate can say they voted for it, but nothing really got done. I pray that I'm wrong..... Boggles my mind as well. It's either something like that, or some kind of arrogance that passing a house bill is beneath them and their bill is better - even if it says the exact same thing. |
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Posted: 12/16/2021 2:32:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I feel like they do this on purpose. Instead of just passing the HB they change it so now it can get stuck somewhere and never get to the gov desk. Both the House and Senate can say they voted for it, but nothing really got done. I pray that I'm wrong..... ...they've done it this way many times in the past, ...the fact that both chambers have gone through the process is a major achievement, ...and certainly one would presume that having done so, that now both houses are in a prime position to agree on a singular bill/language, ...especially given the large majorities that passed the bills in each chamber... |
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Posted: 12/27/2021 3:36:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/27/2021 4:12:42 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryFreedom is very scary to a lot of people. |
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Posted: 12/27/2021 5:43:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Freedom is very scary to a lot of people. Quote HistoryQuoted: Freedom is very scary to a lot of people. |
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Posted: 12/27/2021 5:46:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Freedom is very scary to a lot of people. Not in this case, it's .gov not wanting to give up control. |
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Posted: 12/27/2021 7:57:37 PM EDT
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I will back the "Blue" as long as they back law abiding people. Mr. Union Pres isn't wanting to back us.
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Posted: 12/27/2021 8:53:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The FOP was against the original CCW law in OH weren't they? Of course they were. |
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Posted: 12/27/2021 8:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in this case, it's .gov not wanting to give up control. Potato, potahto |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 2:15:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Of course they were. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The FOP was against the original CCW law in OH weren't they? Of course they were. |
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Posted: 12/28/2021 3:17:33 PM EDT
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Any update on this? When does the house have to pass it?
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Posted: 12/29/2021 2:04:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any update on this? When does the house have to pass it? sessions last two years, so they have about a year left... |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 7:02:24 AM EDT
[#44]
Thank you.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 9:56:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not in this case, it's .gov not wanting to give up control. Exactly. It would be a slightly different (not hugely, but slightly) story if they were required to have 40 hour/week minimum staffing on the complete CCW line (the 3 day/week deal many have is not acceptable), a mandate that either CCW or written explanation is in the applicant's hand in 7 week days (not working days), and there was a staffed 24/7 receiving line for "emergency" applications with guaranteed 48-hour turn around. They forget, they don't have control, we are a shall-grant state, their only form of control over us is their ability to stretch it out over 45 working days, which is unacceptable. I also thing it's stupid that we still are stuck going to our "home" county or adjacent touching county (I know place of work also count's as a "home" county). I'd happily take a day and travel south to get a renewal done in a day and never give my money to Summit again. |
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Posted: 12/29/2021 10:19:56 AM EDT
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I would suggest that we keep up the pressure on all of our Reps and Senators to remind them that their job is not done yet. I don't know from a procedural standpoint which individuals we should be focusing our efforts on, so let's just keep calling and emailing them all.
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Posted: 12/29/2021 4:44:59 PM EDT
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we should be contacting our respective senators and reps, ..but, perhaps, more importantly, to contact the leadership in both chambers; the senate president and house speaker, since those are the ones who decide the "priority" of the agenda and they decide committee assignments...
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Posted: 12/30/2021 1:12:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ..but, perhaps, more importantly, to contact the leadership in both chambers; the senate president and house speaker, check. |
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Posted: 1/2/2022 7:01:20 PM EDT
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Does anyone know if this bill was passed in the House? I see where it was introduced, but nothing else. I also see where the House bill was introduced in the Senate, but nothing else. I'm wondering if this got done or not.....
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Posted: 1/3/2022 2:58:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does anyone know if this bill was passed in the House? I see where it was introduced, but nothing else. I also see where the House bill was introduced in the Senate, but nothing else. I'm wondering if this got done or not..... ..i think they've largely been on recess for christmas and new years, ...according to the schedule, doesn't appear they'll be back at things until next week at the earliest... i would expect that once they're back, SB 215 will be referred to a particular House committee... there are several ways for them to get it done, we'll have to lobby them to show our support and encourage action on getting something to the governor's desk... |
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