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Posted: 6/25/2018 5:28:16 PM EDT
Perhaps there is a thread already. I looked.
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AR Maglock will prob be the most popular. Second being featureless, assuming they haven’t banned that config too yet
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I say just register one and keep others in legal form or disassembled. If they take it they take it. NY hasn't done anything about the registered guns there, they figure they just have to wait until the registered owners die and confiscate them then.
Or buy a flightlight/ares. I have several thorsden stock rifles, they're a little awkward, but not awful. I think Spur rifles are annoying the little I have shot them. I have a hera stock but have not installed it yet |
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Perhaps there is a thread already. I looked. View Quote There are many others if you just look. |
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I Thordsen'd my one BB rifle late 2016. I was a little concerned when first handling it but it shoots just fine. But I've got big hands and less problem with webbing between fingers. Aside from appearance, it's kind of funky depending on how you affix a sling depending on some of the manipulations one might want to try.
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Quoted: Apparently, you did not look very hard. This was 3 threads below your new thread. There are many others if you just look. View Quote |
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I Thordsen'd my one BB rifle late 2016. I was a little concerned when first handling it but it shoots just fine. But I've got big hands and less problem with webbing between fingers. Aside from appearance, it's kind of funky depending on how you affix a sling depending on some of the manipulations one might want to try. View Quote |
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Simple Grip from Strike Industries $10 each
Magpul Fixed MOE Stock $40 each Damage Industries Muzzle Brake on sale $12 each Mil Spec mag release $5 each Ambi-Safety Selector $20 each Basically converted all my AR to CA featureless for about $87 each. Yes, the grip is unconstitutional......but it's still better than registering Attached File |
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I say just register one and keep others in legal form or disassembled. If they take it they take it. NY hasn't done anything about the registered guns there, they figure they just have to wait until the registered owners die and confiscate them then. Or buy a flightlight/ares. I have several thorsden stock rifles, they're a little awkward, but not awful. I think Spur rifles are annoying the little I have shot them. I have a hera stock but have not installed it yet View Quote Attached File |
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One has a Gen 2 MagLock, the other has the Hogue Freedom Fighter kit. Both have the Juggernaut Tactical CA Hellfighter release pin. When I move I'll sell the one with the Hogue kit to some poor dumb bastard who'd stuck here and swap the mag release on my favorite build. As for all the grip fin talk, the gun is no good if drop it because your thumb can't find a spot to sit.
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I say just register one and keep others in legal form or disassembled. If they take it they take it. NY hasn't done anything about the registered guns there, they figure they just have to wait until the registered owners die and confiscate them then. Or buy a flightlight/ares. I have several thorsden stock rifles, they're a little awkward, but not awful. I think Spur rifles are annoying the little I have shot them. I have a hera stock but have not installed it yet View Quote If it's registered that means you're stuck with a bullet button. Featureless we can have removable magazines, or with a fixed mag we can have all our other "evil" features and using a Mean Arms loader can reload faster than with a standard mag release. We really are better off making them CA compliant without registration. |
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Quoted: Gavin Newsom, our next governor, has already promised to outlaw ALL guns in California. He'll start by moving to outlaw assault weapons, it'll sail through the legislature, and the first targets will be those who registered them. If it's registered that means you're stuck with a bullet button. Featureless we can have removable magazines, or with a fixed mag we can have all our other "evil" features and using a Mean Arms loader can reload faster than with a standard mag release. We really are better off making them CA compliant without registration. View Quote |
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Gavin Newsom, our next governor, has already promised to outlaw ALL guns in California. He'll start by moving to outlaw assault weapons, it'll sail through the legislature, and the first targets will be those who registered them. View Quote If this happens, I'm leaving. |
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What sling do you use? View Quote |
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Quoted: Currently a BFG Vickers 221. Before another convertible 1/2 point. They work fine. The thing that is troublesome is swapping to weak-side (in my case left) when adding slack, It's still a little tight (I'm big, may need a bigger basic loop, etc., to get a little more to work with). The curve out bottom of the stock takes up more space and hangs up the sling some compared to a more typical AR style stock. Still experimenting on where to hook things up. View Quote |
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Hera stock. Surefire muzzle break. Ambi safety. Ambi Charging handle. (aka featureless)
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I just ordered one of these to try out. The rest I have are featureless or 22 for now.
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I just ordered one of these to try out. The rest I have are featureless or 22 for now. View Quote |
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Curious to know how well that works --- for an AR-Pistol build View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I just ordered one of these to try out. The rest I have are featureless or 22 for now. |
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Just watched a video on YT on The Daily Shooter channel, talking about AR/AK Pistol.. He mentioned ANY KITS that opens up the action partially is a NO GO..?? Due to it’ll still fire..?? Needs to install Kits that opens up the Action Completely, am I missing something.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I just ordered one of these to try out. The rest I have are featureless or 22 for now. https://govt.westlaw.com/calregs/Document/I00A3AC3242EF4DA59B868E70908F9614?viewType=FullText&originationContext=documenttoc&transitionType=CategoryPageItem&contextData=(sc.Default) |
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Curious to know how well that works --- for an AR-Pistol build View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I just ordered one of these to try out. The rest I have are featureless or 22 for now. JT's mag release-ish part also disallowes the mag release to reciprocate until the upper and lower are seperated. This is per the language of the law. Note that the standard bolt release can be used (not changed) but another form of restricting the mag from being removed is required such as the Hogue 'Freedom Fighter' pin kit or something. Pushing the JT rear takedown pin is easy enough but getting used to having to release the bolt first is an odd step to perform... |
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Quoted: Pistols aside, the JT Hellfighter complete kit requires you to remove your bolt catch and replace it with their part. Reason being is so the bolt will not be held back as in a LRBHO. The upper cannot be separated from the lower otherwise so either the bolt has to be manually released after the last round or it isn't held back at all. JT's mag release-ish part also disallowes the mag release to reciprocate until the upper and lower are seperated. This is per the language of the law. Note that the standard bolt release can be used (not changed) but another form of restricting the mag from being removed is required such as the Hogue 'Freedom Fighter' pin kit or something. Pushing the JT rear takedown pin is easy enough but getting used to having to release the bolt first is an odd step to perform... View Quote |
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I've tried them all. Most of them work, but @ $9.99, call me a cheap bastard, but the Strike Industries Simple Grip really is a home run out of the park.
ETA: But yeah, when you go out of state, you need to spin on a new grip. BFD. (as opposed to removing something from a free state grip underneath it) |
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The usual featureless AR and AK mods. Below are an Ares SCR and a featureless Tavor. And yes, I had to permanently fix the factory brake on the Tavor to meet the new OAL standards. Fuck california. The Tavor was purchased as a california legal rifle and converted with IMI parts to a regular mag release after making my own grip wrap. eta Oh yeah, see those mags? Those are legally owned 30 rd Colt mags. Legal for use with a featureless rifle, just a reminder. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/5980/evil_ca__rifles-592730.jpg View Quote |
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Featureless.
Ran one in 2 gun for years so I could use my 30s. After you get the hang of it it’s no big deal. The one thing to help is run a ambi safety. |
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What's the silver thing at the base of the magwell on the Ares? View Quote eta lol @left handed release |
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I know, it's late and I should be asleep, but I just had a dumb idea.
We need a better grip for better control and for safety reasons, if nothing else. How about a grip with a depression molded along the rear surface of it. The depression would be a little 'pocket' or platform that runs vertically parallel to or along the back edge of the grip into which your thumb fits. The depression would provide some lateral support for your thumb and afford a small amount of lateral control of the rifle by the thumb. It would create a "pinching" grip between your thumb and the other (non-trigger) fingers of your hand. This depression/pocket would not be a "hole" (as in thumbhole stock) as it runs vertically, not laterally and does not penetrate the fin. It would also be beneficial to have the "fin" contoured to your hand a little (a bulge to the left rather than be flat and straight up and down) while still keeping the thumb on the right side of the grip. The bulge would not allow you to wrap your hand around the grip. It would just make some room for that meaty muscle at the base of your thumb. |
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Just watched a video on YT on The Daily Shooter channel, talking about AR/AK Pistol.. He mentioned ANY KITS that opens up the action partially is a NO GO..?? Due to it’ll still fire..?? Needs to install Kits that opens up the Action Completely, am I missing something.. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I just ordered one of these to try out. The rest I have are featureless or 22 for now. |
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I know, it's late and I should be asleep, but I just had a dumb idea. We need a better grip for better control and for safety reasons, if nothing else. How about a grip with a depression molded along the rear surface of it. The depression would be a little 'pocket' or platform that runs vertically parallel to or along the back edge of the grip into which your thumb fits. The depression would provide some lateral support for your thumb and afford a small amount of lateral control of the rifle by the thumb. It would create a "pinching" grip between your thumb and the other (non-trigger) fingers of your hand. This depression/pocket would not be a "hole" (as in thumbhole stock) as it runs vertically, not laterally and does not penetrate the fin. It would also be beneficial to have the "fin" contoured to your hand a little (a bulge to the left rather than be flat and straight up and down) while still keeping the thumb on the right side of the grip. The bulge would not allow you to wrap your hand around the grip. It would just make some room for that meaty muscle at the base of your thumb. View Quote |
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This is what I'm doing for my FALs. From this: https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1826/28146780017_973b8a6c93_c.jpg To this: https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1795/43015324821_d59566ec71_c.jpg Using this (which I took part in developing): https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1827/41205182630_ccff5f9d1b_c.jpg View Quote What does this do and a link? |
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Quoted: Last night, for the hell of it, i threw together a featureless build. M16A1 Stock, Strike Industries Simple Featureless grip, BAD Ambi Safety, Surefire muzzle break. I haven't shot it yet. https://i.imgur.com/OMevnQU.jpg View Quote |
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Years ago during the 2nd ban I made my fals fixed mag and had a feed guide on the top. What does this do and a link? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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This is what I'm doing for my FALs. From this: https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1826/28146780017_973b8a6c93_c.jpg To this: https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1795/43015324821_d59566ec71_c.jpg Using this (which I took part in developing): https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1827/41205182630_ccff5f9d1b_c.jpg What does this do and a link? The magazine catch is made with an arm extending rearwards with a 90-degree bend at the rear so that the trigger guard blocks the magazine catch from being actuated with the action closed. Due to the definition of "disassembly of the action" used in CA (and apparently also in NY and possibly elsewhere), we had to make it so that the trigger guard could not be removed or pivoted out of the way without having to "disassemble the action". This ended up being best accomplished with a modified trigger guard retained at the rear with the trigger plunger and at the front with a cotter pin accessible only from within the trigger housing (the hammer has to be removed to get to it). Due to the same language, we also had to find a way to prevent the magazine catch pivot screw from being removed without "disassembly of the action". This is done by blocking it with a plate that can only be removed by said "disassembly". My original idea was to use a plate which attached to the lower in such a way that such would be required, with an arm extending over the screw head, but this proved too expensive and complicated to manufacture. This is the simpler alternative. The plate is welded to the magazine. Until you remove the magazine, the screw cannot be removed, and because of that you have to pivot the action open thus "disassembling" it to remove the magazine to allow access to the screw, at which point the matter is moot for legal purposes. The video below shows exactly how it works. https://vimeo.com/264494580 I took some pictures showing installation in the main thread on this at Calguns (posts 97 and 98): http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1424640&page=2 This is the main sale thread. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=1453460 I haven't checked to see how many are left, if any. Due to low demand, the size of the order had to be reduced (the original hope was to be able to increase it above the original 100 planned to lower the cost). Latecomers caused it to be expanded a bit, but at this point the order numbers stand as-is, as they have already started milling them. The machinist makes parts for SIG and S&W. This is only the for magazine catch/lock. Only pre-production and prototype examples of the trigger guard and pivot screw cover currently exist. They will be offered as well to buyers of the magazine lock once they are ready for full production. All three components are needed for legal purposes in CA. For the Commonwealth rifles, the trigger guard is not compatible, but it appears, after some experimentation, that if you JBWeld or epoxy the slot in the head of the grip plate screw such as th prevent removal of the trigger guard, that this should be sufficient for compliance purposes, as it has the effect of requiring the action to be "disassembled" in order to remove the trigger guard. The other components work as-is with such rifles. |
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