As long as they were registered as "assault rifles" in time, they could be kept.

Gee I hope so!



AR rifles, both pre- and post-ban were required to be registered back in 1999. About 98% of them wern't.

1. In California, you shoot ANYONE in your home, you've got PROBLEMS, righteous or not. Registered AW or not. Period. Califfornia is a state with NO sense of it's self and remains BARELY a "state" of the union with it's ghost voted gun control legislation.

I would be more worried about a civil suit rather than a criminal one. California has a "home is your castle law" which states that you are presumed innocent while defending your home - it is presumed anyone breaking into an occupied home is there to do harm to the persons inside - not to tour your kitchen improvement.

Unlike Texas you can't kill your neighbor's 9 year old daughter who is knocking at your door to sell girl scout cookies nor can you kill the local 11 year old boys playing cowboys and indians hiding in the bushes in your backyard after dark. I wouldn't shoot my neighor with Alzhimers nor my brother coming to visit but sure as hell would shoot down a stranger in a heartbeat if he so much as flinched under my .357's laser sight.

For civil reasons I wouldn't use an AR to shoot my neighor's kids even in Texas - too politically incorrect to defend in front of a civil jury. I have a nice .357 revolver with gold dots for that purpose and a nice looking Mossberg 500A defender in the common 12 gauage caliber with 00 buck. I'm an expert with either left or right handed and practice shooting under all sorts of conditions with either exteremely effective weapon. If a .357 doesn't do it at point blank range nothing will.

Quoted: What happens if you have a herat attack tomorrow, what happens if you get in a car accident tomorrow?  Do your wife and kids really get a chance to own your legally purchased and registerecd firearms.

My wife takes her 1.5 million dollars, sells the house for $325,000 and takes her 1.825 million dollars minus taxes and moves. My job and high pay are what ties me here. She has no interest in the AR's. I never feel under armed with a M1A but do a bit with the M1 Garand as I'm not really high speed/low drag on those damn clips (yes they are in fact clips in the M1 Garand!).

I'm fine where I'm at and will give California some time, say five years to either finish the swing to the left and go completely socialist or rebound and start swinging to the right. When I leave as a 50 something year old man I will retire knowing that I fought the good fight, not ran away from the sound of the guns like so many girly men (using Arnold's growing popular phrase). I'm willing to bet that we've seen the worst pass and that things are getting better. The federal election cycle and what happens to the border after the next terrorist attack is traced to people coming in from Mexico will spell disaster for the liberals here.

I am serious, where would this country be if Patrick Henry, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson, and Thomas Paine has said, to hell with English rule lets move to Canada! Guys like Ben Franklin and Elbridge Gerry just weren't smart guys, they were brave enough head toward the sound of the guns. Imagine if all the guys bad mouthing California as a lost liberal cause would move here rather than to fling monkey shit at us. The state is way liberal - 56 to 44% last figures I remember ... 4.5% swing would make the difference.

Of course California is a huge state and we more people voting for the mayors of some of our cities then other states have voting for President so 4.5% is a big number of people but it's not impossible. In 28 days and a wake up I end my military service to this nation so many of the laws that have limited or prohibited my political involvement are lifted. I will continue to volunteer and serve but it will be for my local pro-choice (the choice to own firearms ) candidates. I will make my best effort at keeping my representives as pro-gun as they are now.

March to the sound of the guns damn it and don't shoot until you see the whites of their eyes (metaphorically speaking of course). Take time to convince your mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, fellow union members, friends, church aquaintances that the pro-gun canidate is who they need to vote for. I turned serveral democrats around - they are union members and good Catholics ... I simply got them to vote their religion rather than their who their union informed them to vote for. My mom and dad sat out elections after '72 and Richard Nixon - I got them involved asking them to vote (R) for me. I've talked with my bother who is just this side of clueless and gave him the facts that he needs to vote and to vote (R) for his children's furture (they home school). If we can do this faster than the D's can bring illegals in by the bus load we actually have a chance to turn this state around.

I would much perfer to be buried with a bullet in my chest than one in my back ... march to the sounds of the guns!

Quoted: You know if you are going to make comments about the laws in this state you really oughta look them up first, it ain't that hard. (and you might not seem quite so foolish to those that are more familiar with them) Penal Code Sections 197.  Homicide is also justifiable when committed by any person in

Thanks I had read that long long time ago and lost the Penal Code section. Thanks. My home is my castle!

Excellent review here in Abobe Acrob format worth reading if you understand some of the minimum legal terms:

llr.lls.edu/volumes/v36-issue4/documents/9selfdefense.pdf

Nice having Loyola Law Review's opinions on the reading. I've read advice like this in the book "In the Gravest Extreme" and here's a schollarly review of the law that backs that up. Excellent.