Thanks, I guess he kinda took what I posted a little to seriously. The last thing I want to do is offend someone, that's not what we are here for. I understand that each and every one of us has our opinions, and I don't want to force mine on anyone. I just wanted him to realize that JLD is a reputable company and they deserve to be given a chance to rectify the problem. There was a member in the AR-10 section that was repremanded by the moderators for flaming Armalite, even though Armalite had taken care of his problems with his rifle. The member posted a formal appology to everyone and all was well. Most owners of the PTRs have had nothing but good experiences out of their rifles and I think this is indication that they do NOT produce lemons, however every manufacturer is capable of letting a rifle go that has problems. I do NOT think they should be trashed, and made to sound like they only produce problematic rifles, here on the forums. It was my fault for coming across as being too stern and that's what I appologize for. I can understand the frustration of receiving a faulty rifle and having to go through the hassle of having the problem rectified. ARKAR