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Posted: 8/22/2022 12:18:20 PM EDT
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Quoted: @dk-prof @FluffyTheCat I have a Danish Receiver and a USGI Receiver along with 2 nice Dane stocks and a Dane/USGI GAW marked stock with a brass disc. I also have a PB barrel and a VAR barrel along with all the other PB/BMB/BMR parts that I need to go through and sort by rifle. My question is which receiver barrel combo would be more inline with the way the Danish rifles were issued. Would it be better to put the VAR on the Danish Receiver or the GI or the PB on the Danish or VAR? TIA The Danes initially received USGI WWII Garands and later bought some 30,000. If it was "as issued," it would most likely be a USGI Springfield or Winchester receiver with accompanying USGI parts. The Danes, I believe after they bought their 30,000 rifles, began rebarreling with VAR barrels in the 1960s (along with FKF and a couple others I'd have to look up). IIRC, Beretta was the NATO supplier for Garands and they produced parts that would also be found on Danish Garands when replacement was needed. Not an easy answer with the if this, then that of a Dane, but given that you have, I'd suggest the Danish receiver with VAR barrel and Dane stock is what you seek. Standing by for an additional education... 
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Posted: 8/22/2022 12:34:07 PM EDT
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Yeah that's kinda the route I was going. I had planned on the Dane Receiver with the VAR and all Italian parts and the GI rec. with the PB barrel and the GAW Dane stock with a mix of US and Italian parts.
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Posted: 8/23/2022 11:17:26 AM EDT
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I assume that when you say "Danish" receiver you mean a FKF marked Beretta or Breda receiver.
IMO, the most correct way to build the two rifles would be to put the VAR barrel on the US receiver and the PB barrel on the FKF receiver. My reasoning is that the VAR barrels were replacement barrels for worn guns. All of the USGI guns were obviously already used when loaned to Denmark, some more than others. As a result, after use in the Danish army, some eventually needed new barrels. As a result, VAR barrels on US receivers are not uncommon. The Beretta/Breda guns were obviously brand new with new barrels when they were delivered to the Danish army in the 50s, and so relatively few of them would have needed replacement barrels and ended up with a VAR barrel. I am not sure replacement PB barrels were ever used on USGI receivers. So to.me, the most "authentic" or correct configuration would be: FKF receiver with PB barrel and Danish stock USGI receiver with VAR barrel and Dane/USGI stock I hope I didn't misunderstand your question. 
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Posted: 8/23/2022 12:17:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I assume that when you say "Danish" receiver you mean a FKF marked Beretta or Breda receiver. IMO, the most correct way to build the two rifles would be to put the VAR barrel on the US receiver and the PB barrel on the FKF receiver. My reasoning is that the VAR barrels were replacement barrels for worn guns. All of the USGI guns were obviously already used when loaned to Denmark, some more than others. As a result, after use in the Danish army, some eventually needed new barrels. As a result, VAR barrels on US receivers are not uncommon. The Beretta/Breda guns were obviously brand new with new barrels when they were delivered to the Danish army in the 50s, and so relatively few of them would have needed replacement barrels and ended up with a VAR barrel. I am not sure replacement PB barrels were ever used on USGI receivers. So to.me, the most "authentic" or correct configuration would be: FKF receiver with PB barrel and Danish stock USGI receiver with VAR barrel and Dane/USGI stock I hope I didn't misunderstand your question. thats perfect thanks. Now I just need a new compressor so I can start blasting and reparkiing then assemble. |
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Posted: 8/24/2022 9:24:26 PM EDT
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If you have an Italian-made Garand receiver, is it a Breda or a Beretta? And what is the serial number?
Italian barrels made for Danish Garands were dated. These barrels will be dated either 1954 or 1955. There were around 11,000 Breda rifles and around 10,000 Beretta-made rifles. I have Breda receivers with serial numbers close to 11,000 and I also have Breda number 9. I have receivers made over the full length of production. I also have an original Beretta, serial number PB 29. Anyway, I am sure the a Beretta Garand with a serial number of less than PB 5000 should have a barrel dated 1954. A Beretta with a serial number of higher than PB 5000 should be dated 1955. Beretta receivers from 1955 were actually made by Breda. Breda acted as a subcontractor. You will see a receiver such a PB 7079. It will be marked with the Beretta name and address; however on the right side of the receiver it will have Breda markings near the drawing number. I would like to know about your serial number, because I might have a duplicate or a consecutive number. By the way, I have Beretta PB 13 and it bears a Danish VAR barrel. This is not the original barrel, but I'm OK with it. |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 9:08:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you have an Italian-made Garand receiver, is it a Breda or a Beretta? And what is the serial number? Italian barrels made for Danish Garands were dated. These barrels will be dated either 1954 or 1955. There were around 11,000 Breda rifles and around 10,000 Beretta-made rifles. I have Breda receivers with serial numbers close to 11,000 and I also have Breda number 9. I have receivers made over the full length of production. I also have an original Beretta, serial number PB 29. Anyway, I am sure the a Beretta Garand with a serial number of less than PB 5000 should have a barrel dated 1954. A Beretta with a serial number of higher than PB 5000 should be dated 1955. Beretta receivers from 1955 were actually made by Breda. Breda acted as a subcontractor. You will see a receiver such a PB 7079. It will be marked with the Beretta name and address; however on the right side of the receiver it will have Breda markings near the drawing number. I would like to know about your serial number, because I might have a duplicate or a consecutive number. By the way, I have Beretta PB 13 and it bears a Danish VAR barrel. This is not the original barrel, but I'm OK with it. Ill pull them out tonight and get some pics. I slapped them together loosely and put them in the back of the safe and kind of forgot about them till recently. |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 10:08:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: ... By the way, I have Beretta PB 13 and it bears a Danish VAR barrel. This is not the original barrel, but I'm OK with it. I similarly have a Breda with a VAR barrel. It didn't come that way and isn't really "correct" - but I wanted the rifle to be as "Danish" as possible, so I assembled it that way. 
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Posted: 8/25/2022 12:52:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I similarly have a Breda with a VAR barrel. It didn't come that way and isn't really "correct" - but I wanted the rifle to be as "Danish" as possible, so I assembled it that way. I can understand that sentiment!! Did you get all the goodies for it? So far I have (Euro made until I can find a Danish made) M1 Bayo in Danish Scabbard with a Danish belt hangar, A Danish M5 in a Danish M8A1 scabbard, 2 Danish slings and 2 Danish Oil bottles to go with these. I have some Danish En Blocs as well but I need a Danish Bandoleer still. |
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Posted: 8/25/2022 3:53:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can understand that sentiment!! Did you get all the goodies for it? So far I have (Euro made until I can find a Danish made) M1 Bayo in Danish Scabbard with a Danish belt hangar, A Danish M5 in a Danish M8A1 scabbard, 2 Danish slings and 2 Danish Oil bottles to go with these. I have some Danish En Blocs as well but I need a Danish Bandoleer still. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I similarly have a Breda with a VAR barrel. It didn't come that way and isn't really "correct" - but I wanted the rifle to be as "Danish" as possible, so I assembled it that way. I can understand that sentiment!! Did you get all the goodies for it? So far I have (Euro made until I can find a Danish made) M1 Bayo in Danish Scabbard with a Danish belt hangar, A Danish M5 in a Danish M8A1 scabbard, 2 Danish slings and 2 Danish Oil bottles to go with these. I have some Danish En Blocs as well but I need a Danish Bandoleer still. I've got a Danish sling, Danish bayonet, and Danish ammo. If you're talking about the cloth bandoleers that the Danish ammo came loaded into, I've got those. I did just sell a whole crate to a buddy of mine (what is that, 640 rounds in clips and bandoleers), but I've got another one or two crates sitting around. So if you'd like me to send you one of the bandoleers, I'd be happy to. Just IM me your address. Here's a couple of pictures of my Breda.     
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Posted: 8/26/2022 4:47:20 PM EDT
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I'd love a bandoleer. As long as you let me at least pay for shipping.
 Attached File Attached File Attached FileI'm pulling out all my parts now to get them associated with the rifle and ready to build! |
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Posted: 8/27/2022 6:20:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'd love a bandoleer. As long as you let me at least pay for shipping. Send me your address via IM, and I'll get one in a box. We can argue about shipping later. |
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Posted: 8/29/2022 9:51:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Send me your address via IM, and I'll get one in a box. We can argue about shipping later. IM Sent |
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Posted: 8/29/2022 9:52:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you have an Italian-made Garand receiver, is it a Breda or a Beretta? And what is the serial number? Italian barrels made for Danish Garands were dated. These barrels will be dated either 1954 or 1955. There were around 11,000 Breda rifles and around 10,000 Beretta-made rifles. I have Breda receivers with serial numbers close to 11,000 and I also have Breda number 9. I have receivers made over the full length of production. I also have an original Beretta, serial number PB 29. Anyway, I am sure the a Beretta Garand with a serial number of less than PB 5000 should have a barrel dated 1954. A Beretta with a serial number of higher than PB 5000 should be dated 1955. Beretta receivers from 1955 were actually made by Breda. Breda acted as a subcontractor. You will see a receiver such a PB 7079. It will be marked with the Beretta name and address; however on the right side of the receiver it will have Breda markings near the drawing number. I would like to know about your serial number, because I might have a duplicate or a consecutive number. By the way, I have Beretta PB 13 and it bears a Danish VAR barrel. This is not the original barrel, but I'm OK with it. Looks like mine is right at the cutoff. |
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Posted: 10/26/2022 8:39:09 AM EDT
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Hey guys, I'm going to start working on these this weekend or next week but had a couple more questions. I have a couple PB upper handguard bands, one that is parked and one that is blued, Any input on which would be correct for a rifle leaving the Beretta factory? Also any other blued parts....extractor, firing pin??? Last question is were any of the markings originally colored filled white from the factory? I'm trying to make the PB as if it it is fresh out of the crate since I need to refinish it all anyway.
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Posted: 10/26/2022 9:21:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey guys, I'm going to start working on these this weekend or next week but had a couple more questions. I have a couple PB upper handguard bands, one that is parked and one that is blued, Any input on which would be correct for a rifle leaving the Beretta factory? Also any other blued parts....extractor, firing pin??? Last question is were any of the markings originally colored filled white from the factory? I'm trying to make the PB as if it it is fresh out of the crate since I need to refinish it all anyway. Thanks Again. These are things that Fluffy will undoubtedly know ... and that I have no idea about!
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Posted: 10/26/2022 11:03:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hey guys, I'm going to start working on these this weekend or next week but had a couple more questions. I have a couple PB upper handguard bands, one that is parked and one that is blued, Any input on which would be correct for a rifle leaving the Beretta factory? Also any other blued parts....extractor, firing pin??? Last question is were any of the markings originally colored filled white from the factory? I'm trying to make the PB as if it it is fresh out of the crate since I need to refinish it all anyway. Thanks Again. I have one completely original Beretta M1--PB 29. I will let you know. |
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Posted: 10/26/2022 11:49:36 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/31/2022 11:57:05 AM EDT
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Fluffy were you able to get a chance to take a peek at the original PB?
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Posted: 10/31/2022 12:16:01 PM EDT
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Everything was parkerized
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Posted: 10/31/2022 12:46:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Everything was parkerized Awesome, I appreciate it. Just got them all pulled apart last night for prep. I shall name the PB "The Fluffinator" in your honor Just need something for the other one now for DK
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Posted: 11/1/2022 10:42:30 AM EDT
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Nice!
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Posted: 11/1/2022 11:08:34 AM EDT
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Take a look at the drawing number of M1G's rifle. Notice that it is stamped "BMR"?
This receiver was made for Beretta by Breda. |
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Posted: 11/5/2022 10:41:52 PM EDT
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Posted: 11/20/2022 5:25:54 PM EDT
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Quoted: @dk-prof @FluffyTheCat I have a Danish Receiver and a USGI Receiver along with 2 nice Dane stocks and a Dane/USGI GAW marked stock with a brass disc. I also have a PB barrel and a VAR barrel along with all the other PB/BMB/BMR parts that I need to go through and sort by rifle. My question is which receiver barrel combo would be more inline with the way the Danish rifles were issued. Would it be better to put the VAR on the Danish Receiver or the GI or the PB on the Danish or VAR? TIA First Garand I got from the CMP a loooooong time ago was a SG Dane. A 6-digit Springfield receiver was matched up to a VAR barrel. It had a nice mix of SA and PB parts with the topper being a lockbar rear sight. Sold it about 10 years ago but that was a nice rifle. I would put the VAR barrel on a USGI receiver if it were mine. 
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Posted: 11/21/2022 3:42:46 PM EDT
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I have the PB barrel on the PB rec, the VAR on a GI and I forgot I had an extra BMR barrel so I parked it yesterday and have it on a recent rack grade that needed a new barrel anyway. Worked out good because I have 3 Dane stocks.
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Posted: 11/22/2022 12:51:14 AM EDT
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Sexy!
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Posted: 11/22/2022 11:10:46 AM EDT
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Looking good!
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Posted: 11/22/2022 10:03:58 PM EDT
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All back together just waiting on CMP for some gas tube refinishing.
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