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You did fine, I would not worry. You might get more responses and quicker if you go here The ar15.com of m14's
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You did fine, I would not worry. You might get more responses and quicker if you go here The ar15.com of m14's View Quote Thanks, I registered over there and created basically the same thread. Appreciate the heads up. |
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If you have $1600 into the deal and the boat is worth about $1500, you did very good. That rifle is worth $1500 as a base. People will probably know more about the stock, barrel, and scope and give you a better price.
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Between 1k and 2k depending on who you ask and what day of the week it is. I'm 1600 bucks into the deal. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What was the boat worth? Between 1k and 2k depending on who you ask and what day of the week it is. I'm 1600 bucks into the deal. I don't think either of you got hurt in the deal. The scope and mount may not be what you want, but the rest looks good. Reach out to Lee Emerson (Different) about the receiver. |
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Honestly, I have no interest in any scope or mount on this gun. I would rather shoot with irons. Gonna pick up a USGI stock for it I think.
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The gun is built on a Federal Ordnance Receiver with a SN of 22xxx The bolt [is] TRW View Quote The receiver was manufactured in early 1991 but was intended to accommodate a Chinese bolt. Since it has a TRW bolt, it's likely had a gunsmith fit the bolt to the receiver. HTH |
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That stock should be worth some $$$ as hey come from Canada and it is tough to get them into the US from what I understand. Piece out what you don't care for. |
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OP, That stock should be worth some $$$ as hey come from Canada and it is tough to get them into the US from what I understand. Piece out what you don't care for. View Quote The stock is made by Promag and is readily available all over the USA. Example: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/3357190306/archangel-adjustable-precision-rifle-stock-m14-m1a-synthetic |
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The stock is made by Promag and is readily available all over the USA. Example: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/3357190306/archangel-adjustable-precision-rifle-stock-m14-m1a-synthetic View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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OP, That stock should be worth some $$$ as hey come from Canada and it is tough to get them into the US from what I understand. Piece out what you don't care for. The stock is made by Promag and is readily available all over the USA. Example: http://www.midwayusa.com/product/3357190306/archangel-adjustable-precision-rifle-stock-m14-m1a-synthetic Yeah, I sold it for 200 bucks. |
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Nice! Been a long time since I shot one, its one of those rifles I just never found in my price range.
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It's a Fulton Armory M14. An M1A is a particular model made by a particular company, SAI. Contrary to what some want to claim, M1A is NOT a generic term for M14 clones. |
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It's a Fulton Armory M14. An M1A is a particular model made by a particular company, SAI. Contrary to what some want to claim, M1A is NOT a generic term for M14 clones. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What did you buy? Well, it's not an M1A. ??? It's a Fulton Armory M14. An M1A is a particular model made by a particular company, SAI. Contrary to what some want to claim, M1A is NOT a generic term for M14 clones. Copy. Any insight into my receiver or barrel? |
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What did you buy? Well, it's not an M1A. ??? It's a Fulton Armory M14. An M1A is a particular model made by a particular company, SAI. Contrary to what some want to claim, M1A is NOT a generic term for M14 clones. Copy. Any insight into my receiver or barrel? I have a Polytech M14S. I don't know much about the Fulton, but I can't recall hearing anything bad. I think, though not sure, that the receiver on the Fulton is forged. To some, that's important, to others, not so much. |
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I have a Polytech M14S. I don't know much about the Fulton, but I can't recall hearing anything bad. I think, though not sure, that the receiver on the Fulton is forged. To some, that's important, to others, not so much. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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What did you buy? Well, it's not an M1A. ??? It's a Fulton Armory M14. An M1A is a particular model made by a particular company, SAI. Contrary to what some want to claim, M1A is NOT a generic term for M14 clones. Copy. Any insight into my receiver or barrel? I have a Polytech M14S. I don't know much about the Fulton, but I can't recall hearing anything bad. I think, though not sure, that the receiver on the Fulton is forged. To some, that's important, to others, not so much. Federal Ordnance. Not Fulton. |
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Federal Ordnance and Fulton Armory receivers are made from castings.
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Federal Ordnance. Not Fulton. View Quote My bad. Still, have not heard anything bad about them either. Damn these quote block limits. Sometimes your meaning gets lost when you have to delete stuff in order to post, dang it. Then you leave an open quote trying to edit. This is ridiculous. Sorry, not fussing at you, just some of these new posting rules. |
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Looks good.
I had a Fed Ord m14 back in the late 80's or early 90's for a very short window. Mine was mostly usgi parts but had issues with the op rod dismounting a few times, I returned it to the store and the gunshop guy said it came back with a replaced op rod and the next owner had no issues. ETA mine was very accurate for a rack type rifle. No problems there. I too like the OEM wood. Makes a classic a classic. I also have a usgi fiberglass stock that I like the dimensions of but the lock up is a bit light when latching the trigger guard. Always meant to skim bed and pain the glass stock a dark green and sand camo. |
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Quoted: True, but my understanding is that the Fed Ord ones had some issues whereas the Fulton ones are generally well thought of. Is that not correct? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Federal Ordnance and Fulton Armory receivers are made from castings. True, but my understanding is that the Fed Ord ones had some issues whereas the Fulton ones are generally well thought of. Is that not correct? This is true. Fed Ord was an interesting company, and based their business on importing surplus guns and parts. The M14 rifles they made were originally constructed from all surplus parts and a receiver they made inhouse. The original units were good, since the bulk of the components were basically brand new TRW parts and original G.I. barrels. They had some issues with metal hardness of the receivers, Fed Ords were notorious for wearing down the sight adjustment serrations fairly quickly. Later rifles ended up with all chinese imported parts, and those are best left alone since every one of those I have encountered had issues. Sounds like the OP got one of the good ones with U.S. surplus components. As long as he doesn't constantly dial elevation changes and wear down the sight serrations he should be fine, but if they do get worn then Creedmore Sports used to sell a serrated washer that can be installed to restore positive sight "clicks", works great. |
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This is true. Fed Ord was an interesting company, and based their business on importing surplus guns and parts. The M14 rifles they made were originally constructed from all surplus parts and a receiver they made inhouse. The original units were good, since the bulk of the components were basically brand new TRW parts and original G.I. barrels. They had some issues with metal hardness of the receivers, Fed Ords were notorious for wearing down the sight adjustment serrations fairly quickly. Later rifles ended up with all chinese imported parts, and those are best left alone since every one of those I have encountered had issues. Sounds like the OP got one of the good ones with U.S. surplus components. As long as he doesn't constantly dial elevation changes and wear down the sight serrations he should be fine, but if they do get worn then Creedmore Sports used to sell a serrated washer that can be installed to restore positive sight "clicks", works great. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Federal Ordnance and Fulton Armory receivers are made from castings. True, but my understanding is that the Fed Ord ones had some issues whereas the Fulton ones are generally well thought of. Is that not correct? This is true. Fed Ord was an interesting company, and based their business on importing surplus guns and parts. The M14 rifles they made were originally constructed from all surplus parts and a receiver they made inhouse. The original units were good, since the bulk of the components were basically brand new TRW parts and original G.I. barrels. They had some issues with metal hardness of the receivers, Fed Ords were notorious for wearing down the sight adjustment serrations fairly quickly. Later rifles ended up with all chinese imported parts, and those are best left alone since every one of those I have encountered had issues. Sounds like the OP got one of the good ones with U.S. surplus components. As long as he doesn't constantly dial elevation changes and wear down the sight serrations he should be fine, but if they do get worn then Creedmore Sports used to sell a serrated washer that can be installed to restore positive sight "clicks", works great. Thanks much, good info there that people should be aware of when looking at Fed Ords. |
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Just noticed the serial # the OP has. Generally most of the units with 5 figure SN were built with imported chinese parts. Noting that the barrel is a Douglas, someone has had a lot of work done to that rifle, including modifications for USGI parts, so I think the OP got a good one. The last Fed Ord I owned was in the 7### range, all G.I., and was a great shooter.
Good plan ditching that hideous stock and the cheap optics. Heavy metal like a M14 looks best in wood. BTW, here is the hardened sight disk in case the serrations are worn: http://www.creedmoorsports.com/shop/M1-M14_Hardened_1-2_Minute_Elevation_Sight_Disc.html |
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Meh. My Super Match M1A came with a beautiful max dimension, bedded wooden stock. I replaced it with a GI syn stock with little observable difference in accuracy, probably due to the huge diameter of the barrel.
I'll bed the various syn stocks that I have as time allows. It's not all that hard. Just get a copy of the GI Match conditioning manual for the M1 and M-14. Bonus is that bedding the Mini-14/30 stocks is very similar to bedding the M-14/M1A stocks. FWIW, I prefer Brownell's Steel Bedding compound for durability. YMMV. |
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Just noticed the serial # the OP has. Generally most of the units with 5 figure SN were built with imported chinese parts. Noting that the barrel is a Douglas, someone has had a lot of work done to that rifle, including modifications for USGI parts, so I think the OP got a good one. The last Fed Ord I owned was in the 7### range, all G.I., and was a great shooter. Good plan ditching that hideous stock and the cheap optics. Heavy metal like a M14 looks best in wood. BTW, here is the hardened sight disk in case the serrations are worn: http://www.creedmoorsports.com/shop/M1-M14_Hardened_1-2_Minute_Elevation_Sight_Disc.html View Quote It turned out to be a total piece of shit. Short stroking, bad headspace, stuck cases, you name it. Took it down to see Hook Boutin who spent the afternoon ripping it down and rebuilding it. The barrel was canted in the receiver, the headspace was jacked, OP rod was dragging, and some dipshit spray painted the inside of the bolt and receiver. Hook straightened it all out but while it fixed the headspace issues, stuck cases, etc. he couldn't get it to run. He said whoever built it used great parts, but was a dumbass who didn't know what he was doing. On a fluke my buddy dropped his TRW piston into my gun by mistake while troubleshooting and it started running 100%. My piston mic'd good, but was Ti plated and had a small hairline cut in the plating that was barely noticeable, and unless you took special care to mic it right in the right spot, everything looked to be in spec. Since picking up this rifle, I have also picked up a Norinco M14s (to scratch the itch while this one was down.). Since this gun has that heavy ass match barrel I decided that this gun would best be scoped and I shoot the Norinco for my iron sight shooting fun. I put a CASM mount on this gun and dropped a 10X Bushnell Elite on top. Going to take it out and see what kind of groups I can get with it tomorrow. |
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Quoted: It turned out to be a total piece of shit. Short stroking, bad headspace, stuck cases, you name it. Took it down to see Hook Boutin who spent the afternoon ripping it down and rebuilding it. The barrel was canted in the receiver, the headspace was jacked, OP rod was dragging, and some dipshit spray painted the inside of the bolt and receiver. Hook straightened it all out but while it fixed the headspace issues, stuck cases, etc. he couldn't get it to run. He said whoever built it used great parts, but was a dumbass who didn't know what he was doing. On a fluke my buddy dropped his TRW piston into my gun by mistake while troubleshooting and it started running 100%. My piston mic'd good, but was Ti plated and had a small hairline cut in the plating that was barely noticeable, and unless you took special care to mic it right in the right spot, everything looked to be in spec. Since picking up this rifle, I have also picked up a Norinco M14s (to scratch the itch while this one was down.). Since this gun has that heavy ass match barrel I decided that this gun would best be scoped and I shoot the Norinco for my iron sight shooting fun. I put a CASM mount on this gun and dropped a 10X Bushnell Elite on top. Going to take it out and see what kind of groups I can get with it tomorrow. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted: Quoted: Just noticed the serial # the OP has. Generally most of the units with 5 figure SN were built with imported chinese parts. Noting that the barrel is a Douglas, someone has had a lot of work done to that rifle, including modifications for USGI parts, so I think the OP got a good one. The last Fed Ord I owned was in the 7### range, all G.I., and was a great shooter. Good plan ditching that hideous stock and the cheap optics. Heavy metal like a M14 looks best in wood. BTW, here is the hardened sight disk in case the serrations are worn: http://www.creedmoorsports.com/shop/M1-M14_Hardened_1-2_Minute_Elevation_Sight_Disc.html It turned out to be a total piece of shit. Short stroking, bad headspace, stuck cases, you name it. Took it down to see Hook Boutin who spent the afternoon ripping it down and rebuilding it. The barrel was canted in the receiver, the headspace was jacked, OP rod was dragging, and some dipshit spray painted the inside of the bolt and receiver. Hook straightened it all out but while it fixed the headspace issues, stuck cases, etc. he couldn't get it to run. He said whoever built it used great parts, but was a dumbass who didn't know what he was doing. On a fluke my buddy dropped his TRW piston into my gun by mistake while troubleshooting and it started running 100%. My piston mic'd good, but was Ti plated and had a small hairline cut in the plating that was barely noticeable, and unless you took special care to mic it right in the right spot, everything looked to be in spec. Since picking up this rifle, I have also picked up a Norinco M14s (to scratch the itch while this one was down.). Since this gun has that heavy ass match barrel I decided that this gun would best be scoped and I shoot the Norinco for my iron sight shooting fun. I put a CASM mount on this gun and dropped a 10X Bushnell Elite on top. Going to take it out and see what kind of groups I can get with it tomorrow. |
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What a shame. I have never seen a Fed Ord with a Douglas barrel, someone spent money just on the parts for the upgrade. Sounds like the gunsmith botched the job badly. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Just noticed the serial # the OP has. Generally most of the units with 5 figure SN were built with imported chinese parts. Noting that the barrel is a Douglas, someone has had a lot of work done to that rifle, including modifications for USGI parts, so I think the OP got a good one. The last Fed Ord I owned was in the 7### range, all G.I., and was a great shooter. Good plan ditching that hideous stock and the cheap optics. Heavy metal like a M14 looks best in wood. BTW, here is the hardened sight disk in case the serrations are worn: http://www.creedmoorsports.com/shop/M1-M14_Hardened_1-2_Minute_Elevation_Sight_Disc.html It turned out to be a total piece of shit. Short stroking, bad headspace, stuck cases, you name it. Took it down to see Hook Boutin who spent the afternoon ripping it down and rebuilding it. The barrel was canted in the receiver, the headspace was jacked, OP rod was dragging, and some dipshit spray painted the inside of the bolt and receiver. Hook straightened it all out but while it fixed the headspace issues, stuck cases, etc. he couldn't get it to run. He said whoever built it used great parts, but was a dumbass who didn't know what he was doing. On a fluke my buddy dropped his TRW piston into my gun by mistake while troubleshooting and it started running 100%. My piston mic'd good, but was Ti plated and had a small hairline cut in the plating that was barely noticeable, and unless you took special care to mic it right in the right spot, everything looked to be in spec. Since picking up this rifle, I have also picked up a Norinco M14s (to scratch the itch while this one was down.). Since this gun has that heavy ass match barrel I decided that this gun would best be scoped and I shoot the Norinco for my iron sight shooting fun. I put a CASM mount on this gun and dropped a 10X Bushnell Elite on top. Going to take it out and see what kind of groups I can get with it tomorrow. Yeah, they spent a bunch on parts, but doubt a gunsmith did any of the work. Whoever built it was a tard. It's running now, so I suppose that is what matters. Good thing I like it, because at this point I definitely own it. |
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Looking forward to hearing how she shoots and some pics with your glass on it!!!
If you want to. |
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where did you find the ventilated handguard? Not a common part.
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