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Whoever added the (apparently) collapsible stock to that rifle forgot that the buttstock is sometimes used as an impact weapon, and sometimes subject to being slammed against the ground to clear a jam. No room for cleaning kit, either. If one must be able to shorten the rifle, then at least employ a sturdier folding buttstock.
Pass.
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Its an M4 stock. And some of us dont subscribe to the old school it has to be fixed or a sturdy steal folder so you can buttstroke people and break down doors with your guns.
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Maybe you want a rifle that whose butt stock is liable to break under heavy use. I don't. Aside from "buttstroke people and
break down doors" (never said
that), slamming the buttstock on the ground, which I
did mention is a legitimate method of clearing some jams. I suggest you don't try that too many times with any AR collapsible stock.
Some of us want a gun that physically interacts well with body armor by shortening up the LOP.
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That's cool. A better way, using the example of the AR, is to affix an A1 buttstock, and to use a detachable butt pad for those times when not using body armor. You'll have some adjustment, a slightly sturdier buttstock that won't rattle, and be able to store your GI cleaning kit.
Same principle holds for most other rifles.
The slip-on pad from E&L Manufacturing comes to mind:
www.brasscatchers.com/recoil.htmActually, the military of this country, and many others agrees that commonly used cleaning supplies and tools belong with the rifle, where they are always readily available, and not subject to being lost or buried in one's pack. Been that way since 1903, IIRC.
Not to mention the fact that you are adding some recoil-dampening mass to the rear of the rifle, which also tends to shift the center of gravity of the rifle, making the weapon a bit "livlier" in the hands.
and beating people and objects with your gun is a last resort. Right up there with bayonet drill.
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That's right. And
in the last resort, I want the thing to hold up, and not fail.