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Posted: 7/11/2021 9:02:29 PM EDT
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As I understand it corrections are verboten. You’ll have to cancel and resubmit, and yes that means paying another $200 and waiting 2-4 weeks for the refund on the cancelled application.
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Posted: 7/11/2021 9:13:13 PM EDT
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Should I hold off sending my prints and just have them reject my app and then resubmit with the corrected forms and send my prints with a new cover sheet?
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Posted: 7/11/2021 10:40:43 PM EDT
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I noticed an error on an RPQ for one I did earlier this year. I’d reused a previous RPQ and forgot to change the check box from Form 4 to Form 1. The reality is it shouldn’t have made any difference. Everything related to the RP was accurate.
I immediately sent an email to ask if it matter. I’d even considered not mentioning it and just seeing what happened. I finally got an answer back almost a month later, and was told I could upload a second (correct) copy of the form. Which I did. And was approved. |
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Posted: 7/11/2021 10:58:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I noticed an error on an RPQ for one I did earlier this year. I’d reused a previous RPQ and forgot to change the check box from Form 4 to Form 1. The reality is it shouldn’t have made any difference. Everything related to the RP was accurate. I immediately sent an email to ask if it matter. I’d even considered not mentioning it and just seeing what happened. I finally got an answer back almost a month later, and was told I could upload a second (correct) copy of the form. Which I did. And was approved. @BigWaylon Thanks. I read you post that in a different thread while doing some research. I didn’t see many other people with similar stories so I’m wondering how common this is or if you just got a nice examiner. |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 10:01:23 AM EDT
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I sent my prints off with the cover sheet and a small note. The note informs the examiner of a spelling error on the Form 5320.23 and that a corrected 5320.23 has been uploaded to the Eform portal.
I'll update this thread when my 3 Form 1s either get approved or rejected. |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 11:53:23 AM EDT
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Dude! If only I'd seen this earlier...
If they disapprove for any reason, you'll have to re-do prints. You'll have to go through the whole process over again and wait for a refund on the first ones you sent. |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 12:04:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Dude! If only I'd seen this earlier... If they disapprove for any reason, you'll have to re-do prints. You'll have to go through the whole process over again and wait for a refund on the first ones you sent. Well, shit. I guess we'll see what happens. This whole process sucks donkey dick. I have read that in certain cases after a resubmission, you can email the examiner the new application control number and they will transfer your prints. |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 12:20:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, shit. I guess we'll see what happens. This whole process sucks donkey dick. I have read that in certain cases after a resubmission, you can email the examiner the new application control number and they will transfer your prints. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Dude! If only I'd seen this earlier... If they disapprove for any reason, you'll have to re-do prints. You'll have to go through the whole process over again and wait for a refund on the first ones you sent. Well, shit. I guess we'll see what happens. This whole process sucks donkey dick. I have read that in certain cases after a resubmission, you can email the examiner the new application control number and they will transfer your prints. Well, fingers crossed... But this IS the Gov'ment after all... If it goes through, I'll be shocked. Also, (If you didn't know) and just an FYI - You can submit multiple F1's at the same time with only 1 set of fingerprint cards. |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 12:28:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, fingers crossed... But this IS the Gov'ment after all... If it goes through, I'll be shocked. Also, (If you didn't know) and just an FYI - You can submit multiple F1's at the same time with only 1 set of fingerprint cards. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dude! If only I'd seen this earlier... If they disapprove for any reason, you'll have to re-do prints. You'll have to go through the whole process over again and wait for a refund on the first ones you sent. Well, shit. I guess we'll see what happens. This whole process sucks donkey dick. I have read that in certain cases after a resubmission, you can email the examiner the new application control number and they will transfer your prints. Well, fingers crossed... But this IS the Gov'ment after all... If it goes through, I'll be shocked. Also, (If you didn't know) and just an FYI - You can submit multiple F1's at the same time with only 1 set of fingerprint cards. @Johnny_Longslide Yeah, I know. I work with the IRS :-( I've seen conflicting answers regarding submitting one set of prints with multiple Form 1s. Have you done it before? I actually haven't sent the prints yet. Girlfriend was going to do it this afternoon while I'm working. Should I hold off and cancel my applications and then just resubmit and wait for my refunds? |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 12:43:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Johnny_Longslide Yeah, I know. I work with the IRS :-( I've seen conflicting answers regarding submitting one set of prints with multiple Form 1s. Have you done it before? I actually haven't sent the prints yet. Girlfriend was going to do it this afternoon while I'm working. Should I hold off and cancel my applications and then just resubmit and wait for my refunds? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dude! If only I'd seen this earlier... If they disapprove for any reason, you'll have to re-do prints. You'll have to go through the whole process over again and wait for a refund on the first ones you sent. Well, shit. I guess we'll see what happens. This whole process sucks donkey dick. I have read that in certain cases after a resubmission, you can email the examiner the new application control number and they will transfer your prints. Well, fingers crossed... But this IS the Gov'ment after all... If it goes through, I'll be shocked. Also, (If you didn't know) and just an FYI - You can submit multiple F1's at the same time with only 1 set of fingerprint cards. @Johnny_Longslide Yeah, I know. I work with the IRS :-( I've seen conflicting answers regarding submitting one set of prints with multiple Form 1s. Have you done it before? I actually haven't sent the prints yet. Girlfriend was going to do it this afternoon while I'm working. Should I hold off and cancel my applications and then just resubmit and wait for my refunds? @VGuitargod1985 IRS!! Oh god! I usually send in multiple F1's with one set of prints and I do it for that reason alone. I've personally never had an issue. Man, tough call. It could work out... Or it couldn't. I would cancel the current ones, you'll get your refund eventually, and resubmit. You're out a few hundo's for the time being. Form 1's have been going through fairy quickly as of late |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 12:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @VGuitargod1985 IRS!! Oh god! I usually send in multiple F1's with one set of prints and I do it for that reason alone. I've personally never had an issue. Man, tough call. It could work out... Or it couldn't. I would cancel the current ones, you'll get your refund eventually, and resubmit. You're out a few hundo's for the time being. Form 1's have been going through fairy quickly as of late Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Dude! If only I'd seen this earlier... If they disapprove for any reason, you'll have to re-do prints. You'll have to go through the whole process over again and wait for a refund on the first ones you sent. Well, shit. I guess we'll see what happens. This whole process sucks donkey dick. I have read that in certain cases after a resubmission, you can email the examiner the new application control number and they will transfer your prints. Well, fingers crossed... But this IS the Gov'ment after all... If it goes through, I'll be shocked. Also, (If you didn't know) and just an FYI - You can submit multiple F1's at the same time with only 1 set of fingerprint cards. @Johnny_Longslide Yeah, I know. I work with the IRS :-( I've seen conflicting answers regarding submitting one set of prints with multiple Form 1s. Have you done it before? I actually haven't sent the prints yet. Girlfriend was going to do it this afternoon while I'm working. Should I hold off and cancel my applications and then just resubmit and wait for my refunds? @VGuitargod1985 IRS!! Oh god! I usually send in multiple F1's with one set of prints and I do it for that reason alone. I've personally never had an issue. Man, tough call. It could work out... Or it couldn't. I would cancel the current ones, you'll get your refund eventually, and resubmit. You're out a few hundo's for the time being. Form 1's have been going through fairy quickly as of late One more question. @Johnny_Longslide The manufacturer name on my Form 1 from the drop down menu only shows the manufacturer and the country, not the address and city/state. My Form 23 I've listed the manufacturer and full address. Is this a problem? |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 1:00:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One more question. @Johnny_Longslide The manufacturer name on my Form 1 from the drop down menu only shows the manufacturer and the country, not the address and city/state. My Form 23 I've listed the manufacturer and full address. Is this a problem? What are you SBR'ing? |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 1:09:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What are you SBR'ing? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: One more question. @Johnny_Longslide The manufacturer name on my Form 1 from the drop down menu only shows the manufacturer and the country, not the address and city/state. My Form 23 I've listed the manufacturer and full address. Is this a problem? What are you SBR'ing? @Johnny_Longslide CMMG Banshee CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S2 Micro Daniel Defense DDM4 PDW |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 1:21:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Johnny_Longslide CMMG Banshee CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S2 Micro Daniel Defense DDM4 PDW Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: One more question. @Johnny_Longslide The manufacturer name on my Form 1 from the drop down menu only shows the manufacturer and the country, not the address and city/state. My Form 23 I've listed the manufacturer and full address. Is this a problem? What are you SBR'ing? @Johnny_Longslide CMMG Banshee CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S2 Micro Daniel Defense DDM4 PDW So, all those should autofill on the Form. You don't need to input address. Should be Manufacturer and Country. |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 1:28:06 PM EDT
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They did autofill on the Eform 1, but I had to manually fill out Form 23 (responsible person questionnaire) and in that space i listed the full address.
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Posted: 7/12/2021 1:33:43 PM EDT
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Oh yeah, that should be fine and honestly, Manufacturer and Country would suffice, but I'd have to research that.
Quick preliminary search yields that box 4b should match exactly what is in box 4a of the Form 1. |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 1:43:08 PM EDT
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@Johnny_Longslide
Thanks so much for all your help, man. |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 1:45:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @Johnny_Longslide Thanks so much for all your help, man. Thank me after everything gets "Approved"... lol |
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Posted: 7/12/2021 5:12:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: One more question. @Johnny_Longslide The manufacturer name on my Form 1 from the drop down menu only shows the manufacturer and the country, not the address and city/state. My Form 23 I've listed the manufacturer and full address. Is this a problem? Shouldn’t be a problem, but completely unnecessary. Use the info engraved on the firearm. Manufacturer name plus city/state in most cases. |
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Posted: 7/13/2021 12:20:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Shouldn’t be a problem, but completely unnecessary. Use the info engraved on the firearm. Manufacturer name plus city/state in most cases. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: One more question. @Johnny_Longslide The manufacturer name on my Form 1 from the drop down menu only shows the manufacturer and the country, not the address and city/state. My Form 23 I've listed the manufacturer and full address. Is this a problem? Shouldn’t be a problem, but completely unnecessary. Use the info engraved on the firearm. Manufacturer name plus city/state in most cases. Thanks. I appreciate the help. I wish I'd read your guide thoroughly before submission.  This will be a learning experience if they don't go through. At least we're not talking about Form 4s here. |
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Posted: 7/13/2021 1:51:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks. I appreciate the help. I wish I'd read your guide thoroughly before submission. This will be a learning experience if they don't go through. At least we're not talking about Form 4s here. What guide?? Link please?? |
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Posted: 7/13/2021 1:59:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What guide?? Link please?? It’s a sticky in the Gen NFA section: https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Visual-Guide-How-to-Fill-out-a-Form-1-using-EForms/17-493132/ Disclaimer: I’d argue when I first did it that you wouldn’t find a better one online. Maybe as good, but nothing better. However, it was done prior to 41F. I never redid it, just added a few screenshots that aren’t as polished as the original. But overall I think it’s still useful. |
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Posted: 7/14/2021 8:54:32 PM EDT
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My story was I misspelled my trust name on the eform, emailed the help line and they said they’d disapprove but please resubmit, when I did that I emailed Clutter and got an insta-approval. Pretty sure they don’t do that any more.
 F1 M2 SBS Approved DateBlock by FredMan, on Flickr
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Posted: 7/15/2021 11:37:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My story was I misspelled my trust name on the eform, emailed the help line and they said they’d disapprove but please resubmit, when I did that I emailed Clutter and got an insta-approval. Pretty sure they don’t do that any more. https://live.staticflickr.com/1553/24654877434_12df2420b1_b.jpgF1 M2 SBS Approved DateBlock by FredMan, on Flickr Ted was GREAT! He approved all my forms in a timely matter and was reachable by phone as well |
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Posted: 7/18/2021 8:52:25 PM EDT
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Have a related question to this…
How soon after you fill out and submit the form 1 do you get the email with the cover sheet to send in your prints? I filled out my first on 6/24 but haven’t gotten any word on sending in my prints. Of course my card was charged immediately… |
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Posted: 7/18/2021 9:07:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have a related question to this… How soon after you fill out and submit the form 1 do you get the email with the cover sheet to send in your prints? I filled out my first on 6/24 but haven’t gotten any word on sending in my prints. Of course my card was charged immediately… I did efile form 1 and received the cover letter and the "submitted" copy within a few minutes for the last two times. Approval was exactly 3 weeks |
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Posted: 7/18/2021 9:30:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I did efile form 1 and received the cover letter and the "submitted" copy within a few minutes for the last two times. Approval was exactly 3 weeks Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Have a related question to this… How soon after you fill out and submit the form 1 do you get the email with the cover sheet to send in your prints? I filled out my first on 6/24 but haven’t gotten any word on sending in my prints. Of course my card was charged immediately… I did efile form 1 and received the cover letter and the "submitted" copy within a few minutes for the last two times. Approval was exactly 3 weeks Damn, I just checked and I did get an email with an attachment but my stupid iPhone won’t let me open it. I just checked on my laptop and sure enough it has the cover letter and application. I take it since 10 business days has passed I need to do it all over again? |
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Posted: 7/18/2021 9:33:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have a related question to this How soon after you fill out and submit the form 1 do you get the email with the cover sheet to send in your prints? I filled out my first on 6/24 but haven't gotten any word on sending in my prints. Of course my card was charged immediately Your should've received it fairly soon after. If you haven't received the email, check your spam. If it's in there... unfortunately it doesn't matter because you only have 10 days after submitting to get your prints to them. You're well past the 10 day limit. Might need to contact them for guidance or cancel your current one, get your refund and re-submit. |
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Posted: 7/18/2021 9:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Your should've received it fairly soon after. If you haven't received the email, check your spam. If it's in there... unfortunately it doesn't matter because you only have 10 days after submitting to get your prints to them. You're well past the 10 day limit. Might need to contact them for guidance or cancel your current one, get your refund and re-submit. Thanks. I did find the attachment in the email but you’re right, I’m way past the 10 days. I’ll try giving them a call tomorrow and see how to cancel and start over. |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 10:20:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Have a related question to this… How soon after you fill out and submit the form 1 do you get the email with the cover sheet to send in your prints? I filled out my first on 6/24 but haven’t gotten any word on sending in my prints. Of course my card was charged immediately… Send it. The only person I know of that got denied for no print cards wasn’t denied until the 60-day mark. In the future, you can still view/print from your phone. When you get the email it doesn’t show the attachment, as you found out. But if you log into webmail using a browser, you’ll see it. Don’t have to use a laptop/desktop. |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 4:33:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Send it. The only person I know of that got denied for no print cards wasn’t denied until the 60-day mark. In the future, you can still view/print from your phone. When you get the email it doesn’t show the attachment, as you found out. But if you log into webmail using a browser, you’ll see it. Don’t have to use a laptop/desktop. I called the NFA number today and the lady I spoke with said go ahead and send it in, they were allowing up to 45 days past. Going to drop them off after work! Thanks for the tip about opening the attachment. Worked perfect. |
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Posted: 10/11/2021 5:40:34 PM EDT
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My Form 1s were approved last week.
It did seem as if it took an inordinately long period of time. I saw a lot of people getting approved in 2-3 weeks’ time. Now I need to find the time to change the SBRs to their new configurations. |
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Posted: 10/12/2021 12:01:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My Form 1s were approved last week. It did seem as if it took an inordinately long period of time. I saw a lot of people getting approved in 2-3 weeks’ time. Now I need to find the time to change the SBRs to their new configurations. Awesome! Just a note on submitting multiple Form 1 applications under one set of finger print cards. You likely don’t have to do this, but I found it’s helpful to attach your own cover letter (in addition to the NFA ATF pre printed cover letters you get by email) with both control numbers listed and explaining you’re submitting one set for two or more Form 1 applications. It’s not needed but I’m of the mindset if it can’t hurt, do it. Especially with the NFA process. Also pro tip, I usually save templates of all this shit and just update the date, firearm details etc after confirming it’s still the most recent 5320.23 RPQ form available. Seems to cut down on potential errors on future forms |
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