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Posted: 11/19/2013 5:52:21 PM EDT
I've got two options that I really like, but can't decide for my SBR build.
Just want to get your input. Option 1: re barrel my current carbine with a 11.5" BCM LW barrel. I did a crappy shop of this, but gives me a good idea of the over all look. 
Option 2: BCM 11.5 upper - for some reason I feel this looks more appropriate for an SBR. Down the road I could pick up a centurion rail for it. *this is one of yours, it's awesome and I am using your pic as inspiration. 
This will be a 5-150 yard rifle, probably not going to be a suppressor host. It really comes down to do I want a fixed fsb or a FF tube. I do like the classic lines of #2 but #1 would be cheaper and easier. Update page 2 |
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Posted: 11/19/2013 5:53:08 PM EDT
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#1 is my preference
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Posted: 11/19/2013 5:55:42 PM EDT
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I vote #1. You better go that route so you can spend the extra on ammo for the shoot in January..
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Posted: 11/19/2013 6:12:40 PM EDT
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Option 2.
I did just purchase a new MK18 upper, so it is closer to #1, but my second lower I have in process is definitely going to be an 11.5 with and A2. I freaking love them, it is the only SBR I have actually fired. They are sweetness. |
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Posted: 11/19/2013 6:25:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Both!
For real. Build one into a pistol and swap uppers when needed. If I could only chose one it would be number 2 just because I'm digging that style right now. I'm eyeing this set up right now. http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=XSTU5310MOE&name=Spike's+Tactical+ST-15+LE+11.5%22+LWT+5.56+Pistol%2fNFA+URG&groupid=750 |
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Posted: 11/19/2013 6:27:58 PM EDT
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Sneak Attack from Option #3: BCM Kino Upper
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Posted: 11/19/2013 6:30:20 PM EDT
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Option 2. Well... because that's what I did.
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Posted: 11/19/2013 6:35:48 PM EDT
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I love my 10.5 and shoot it out to 200 yds regularly. |
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Posted: 11/19/2013 6:36:03 PM EDT
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I vote #1. You better go that route so you can spend the extra on ammo for the shoot in January.. 
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Posted: 11/19/2013 7:10:46 PM EDT
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Gotta love SBR's
I vote the first option btw. |
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Posted: 11/19/2013 7:31:05 PM EDT
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Number 1. I made several AR pistols that were like #2 and never kept them long but I really enjoyed my one that was setup like #1. It allows for a grip further out which allows more control and comfort.
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Posted: 11/20/2013 12:47:54 AM EDT
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Option 2. But instead of a MOE handguard slap a KAC RAS on it instead
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Posted: 11/20/2013 4:24:42 AM EDT
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Keep opinions and pics coming!
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Posted: 11/20/2013 4:47:42 AM EDT
[#13]
Both! Since there was no both option on poll, I vote option 1. Good luck with your choice.
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Posted: 11/20/2013 5:08:25 AM EDT
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#2.
I think a FSB looks good on a SBR. Any AR for that matter. It says "functional" vs "Tactical and equally functional" to me.   |
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Posted: 11/20/2013 6:14:58 AM EDT
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Option 2 with a CompM4 is what I will be doing when my stamp comes back. Until then it is a pistol but I am waiting on my CompM4 to arrive. I will post a picture when it shows up later this week.
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Posted: 11/20/2013 7:26:09 AM EDT
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#2. I think a FSB looks good on a SBR. Any AR for that matter. It says "functional" vs "Tactical and equally functional" to me. http://i.imgur.com/VUxaixB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xjuUgJW.jpg nice. I do have an A1 upper I could build a 2nd 11.5 out of, I do love a 733 clone. |
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Posted: 11/20/2013 10:55:16 AM EDT
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Or maybe something like this, Noveske 10.5., Switchblock, carbine Centurion C4 rail.
Rob  [/URL]
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Posted: 11/20/2013 12:14:24 PM EDT
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nice. I do have an A1 upper I could build a 2nd 11.5 out of, I do love a 733 clone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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#2. I think a FSB looks good on a SBR. Any AR for that matter. It says "functional" vs "Tactical and equally functional" to me. http://i.imgur.com/VUxaixB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xjuUgJW.jpg nice. I do have an A1 upper I could build a 2nd 11.5 out of, I do love a 733 clone. Out of your choices, I'd go option 2. Out of my choices, go with option 3 and the 733 clone. 
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Posted: 11/20/2013 12:19:21 PM EDT
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11.5" BCM with the new 10" BCM rail. this rail: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-KMR10-Free-Float-Handguard-p/bcm-kmr10.htm almost like this: http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/BCM-14-5-Mid-KMR13-KEYMOD-p/bcm-urg-mid-14-kmr13.htm |
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Posted: 11/20/2013 1:39:36 PM EDT
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I do like the look of the 9" Alpha rail with the 11.5" better than the 11" rail and the 11.5" barrel.
Actually, I think the visual balance of a 9"/10" rail looks better than the 11" on the 11.5" |
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Posted: 11/20/2013 5:12:42 PM EDT
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Both, seriously. This is what i just built. It now has KAC sight front and rear and is waiting on a Micro and my SDN-6. I absolutely love it!
But i am also building another upper for my other SBR lower. It will be a plain 10.5 barrel with fixed FSB, Colt hand guard on a Colt A2 upper with a CAR stock. It will basically be what Monkey Wrench built with a CAR stock, M4 GI hand guards and a Tango down grip. This is the lower it will be on. It should be a nice simple clean build. 
I would probably do the 1st one first. PS i just saw MW has a A1 upper. I would go with whichever you can get a better deal on. A1, simpler, lighter and so on. A2 more adjustable if you need it. |
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Posted: 11/21/2013 2:00:00 AM EDT
[#22]
I would go with no FSB for a SBR.
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Posted: 11/21/2013 3:46:46 AM EDT
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If you can only have one...choice #2.
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Posted: 11/21/2013 4:45:51 AM EDT
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After endless reading last night...
I think a 12-12.5" would be sweet to have as a general purpose SBR, with that said, I could get a 12' with FSB and then do option 1 and replace the carbine barrel with an 11.5". Quoted:
If you can only have one...choice #2. I'll have many uppers (as extra funds allow), its just coming down to which one first
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Posted: 11/21/2013 9:39:18 AM EDT
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Both, seriously. This is what i just built. It now has KAC sight front and rear and is waiting on a Micro and my SDN-6. I absolutely love it! <a href="http://s10.photobucket.com/user/rc51kid/media/DSC_1817.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/rc51kid/DSC_1817.jpg</a> What rail is that? That is a sexy build 
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Posted: 11/21/2013 12:03:58 PM EDT
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I vote option 1. I use red dot almost exclusively, FSB just gets in my field of view. Also, I like HK or DOA styled iron sites.
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Posted: 11/21/2013 3:51:06 PM EDT
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I vote option 1. I use red dot almost exclusively, FSB just gets in my field of view. Also, I like HK or DOA styled iron sites. i played around with my uppers tonight, and realized why I floated some and left some with the FSB. I'll be going with a variation of option 1, I'm thinking 9"/ 10" rail and 11.5 barrel. |
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Posted: 11/21/2013 4:02:35 PM EDT
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#1 looks great - what did you use for the paint job?
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Posted: 11/21/2013 4:36:08 PM EDT
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#1 looks great - what did you use for the paint job? thanks. I used tried and true krylon: light woodland green sand brown all are the fusion camo series here it is in the middle TN landscape 
IMG_0848 by The Dorsal Fin, on Flickr 
IMG_0850 by The Dorsal Fin, on Flickr |
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Posted: 11/21/2013 6:52:44 PM EDT
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What rail is that? That is a sexy build
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Both, seriously. This is what i just built. It now has KAC sight front and rear and is waiting on a Micro and my SDN-6. I absolutely love it! <a href="http://s10.photobucket.com/user/rc51kid/media/DSC_1817.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a147/rc51kid/DSC_1817.jpg</a> What rail is that? That is a sexy build
It is the Wilson Combat rail. Thanks for the comment. |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 8:54:55 AM EDT
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nice. I do have an A1 upper I could build a 2nd 11.5 out of, I do love a 733 clone. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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#2. I think a FSB looks good on a SBR. Any AR for that matter. It says "functional" vs "Tactical and equally functional" to me. http://i.imgur.com/VUxaixB.jpg http://i.imgur.com/xjuUgJW.jpg nice. I do have an A1 upper I could build a 2nd 11.5 out of, I do love a 733 clone. My vote! |
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Posted: 11/22/2013 4:47:51 PM EDT
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#2 for the FSB, and you could keep it simple without an optic.
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Posted: 11/22/2013 4:49:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After endless reading last night... I think a 12-12.5" would be sweet to have as a general purpose SBR, with that said, I could get a 12' with FSB and then do option 1 and replace the carbine barrel with an 11.5". I'll have many uppers (as extra funds allow), its just coming down to which one first Quote HistoryQuoted: After endless reading last night... I think a 12-12.5" would be sweet to have as a general purpose SBR, with that said, I could get a 12' with FSB and then do option 1 and replace the carbine barrel with an 11.5". Quoted: If you can only have one...choice #2. I'll have many uppers (as extra funds allow), its just coming down to which one first |
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Posted: 11/25/2013 1:43:54 PM EDT
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just ordered a 11.5" Daniel Defense CHF barrel from DSG arms for $189 shipped.
Looks like a variation of option 1 is what I'm going with
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Posted: 11/27/2013 7:29:10 AM EDT
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Update:
Final configuration has been decided - just waiting on my form 1 and parts to arrive. Current form: 
Build list: The new parts: 11.5" Daniel Defense CHF 1/7 barrel BCM low pro gas block BCM barrel nut Standard A2 flash hider w/ crush washer AIM 9130 BCG Existing parts that will be used: 11" VTAC Kaboom upper Aimpoint Pro in LT150 MBUS TLR-1 @ 12 o'clock current lower setup Should looks similar to this (outdated and poorly photo shopped for short barrel)
I really like the look of a 9-10" rail on the 11.5" barrel with some of the barrel sticking out, looked balanced in my opinion. After playing around with my current setup, I realized that with the mbus moved back and my TLR-1 at 12 o'clock it was perfect for my needs. As much as we all like new things, it hit me - if its not broken, don't fix it.   So I decided that function / comfort > looks, so here we are, plans are finalized and I can always build another upper at a later date.
After reports that eforms submitted in October are getting approved as of this morning, there his hope that I can have this bad boy together by Christmas. |
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Posted: 11/27/2013 7:40:37 AM EDT
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Update: Final configuration has been decided - just waiting on my form 1 and parts to arrive. Current form: http://i.imgur.com/r3YPrmh.jpg Build list: The new parts: 11.5" Daniel Defense CHF 1/7 barrel BCM low pro gas block BCM barrel nut Standard A2 flash hider w/ crush washer AIM 9130 BCG Existing parts that will be used: 11" VTAC Kaboom upper Aimpoint Pro in LT150 MBUS TLR-1 @ 12 o'clock current lower setup Should looks similar to this (outdated and poorly photo shopped for short barrel) http://i.imgur.com/lZmLGuU.jpg I really like the look of a 9-10" rail on the 11.5" barrel with some of the barrel sticking out, looked balanced in my opinion. After playing around with my current setup, I realized that with the mbus moved back and my TLR-1 at 12 o'clock it was perfect for my needs. As much as we all like new things, it hit me - if its not broken, don't fix it. So I decided that function / comfort > looks, so here we are, plans are finalized and I can always build another upper at a later date.
After reports that eforms submitted in October are getting approved as of this morning, there his hope that I can have this bad boy together by Christmas. NFA Tracker shows that one is a Form 3 to the dealer just an FYI. Mine were submitted 8-29 an 8-31 so I am hoping I didn't screw them up and get my stamps soon but I was told by Gary that those being processed are just them testing the system so I don't have high hopes at this time. |
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Posted: 11/27/2013 8:58:06 AM EDT
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Well that stinks.
However, there are a lot of August and September approvals as posted in the main thread as of this week. I think the "test the system explanation" is a clever ruse to calm down calls / emails to the branch, just my $0.02, as it seems to be an extended test..... Also, Gary said earlier this week on the phone they are being processed much faster than standard paper submissions, but did not elaborate. |
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Posted: 11/27/2013 12:50:18 PM EDT
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well since I'm still at the office - and pretty much the only one, I decided to shop the picture to get a better feel for what its going to look like.
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Posted: 11/27/2013 1:26:55 PM EDT
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I like it. What are your plans as far as buis?
Also how are you liking the pro in the larue mount? Ive been thinking about a pro in an adm mount or a micro in a adm mount. |
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Posted: 11/27/2013 2:29:58 PM EDT
[#40]
I LOVE the larue mount. I've tried ADM and LaRue - without starting a this vs that discussion, I prefer the larue system.
As for buis, I have a set of MBUS for the time being and I'm not too concerned on upgrading. However I have been considering some options: Daniel defense front and rear Troy folding front and rear DD front and troy rear Really need to think about it. |
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Posted: 12/13/2013 5:27:07 AM EDT
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So.... plans have changed.
I bought a YHM SS 5.56 Phantom
With that said my rail options changed as well. All parts have been ordered as of this morning and the parts / build list is finalized: 11.5 DD CHF barrel 10" Centurion C4 rail Magpul VFG YHM QD flash hider BCM gas block and barrel nut then some krylon 
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