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Posted: 1/14/2021 2:54:58 PM EDT
I'm looking for someone to pin/weld a titanium muzzle device for an ultralight build and can't seem to find a shop willing to do it. Any ideas? Thanks.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 3:02:26 PM EDT
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I know it should be tig welded but you would think a small tap with a mig would hold a detent pin just fine? I honestly do not know about that. I have done dozens of standard steel ones but never titanium.

@Tigwelder1971 ?
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 3:11:44 PM EDT
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I need that done too.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 3:12:38 PM EDT
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Ti sucks.

It is a "reactive metal", sensitive to oxygen. Once heated the protective coating is breached and oxygen plays havoc with shit.

Clean, clean, and clean components/tungsten/filler rods. Shielding gas coverage is pertinent. I turn those projects down. Ti components are not cheap..
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 3:13:47 PM EDT
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Ti sucks.

It is a "reactive metal", sensitive to oxygen. Once heated the protective coating is breached and oxygen plays havoc with shit.

Clean, clean, and clean components/tungsten/filler rods. Shielding gas coverage is pertinent. I turn those projects down. Ti components are not cheap..
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Damn, well that's what I was afraid of. Guess I'm better off getting a 16" barrel.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 3:15:42 PM EDT
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Damn, well that's what I was afraid of. Guess I'm better off getting a 16" barrel.
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@unclemoak may have interest.


And the guy has mad skills. Last I read he does ~300 P/W jobs in a year. Let's see if he responds here.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 3:16:32 PM EDT
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I know it should be tig welded but you would think a small tap with a mig would hold a detent pin just fine? I honestly do not know about that. I have done dozens of standard steel ones but never titanium.

@Tigwelder1971 ?
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Would you use steel Mig wire on Aluminum?
Because it would work about as well on titanium...
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 3:18:29 PM EDT
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Would you use steel Mig wire on Aluminum?
Because it would work about as well on titanium...
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No but like I said, I have never done it so I tagged a real welder.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 3:25:06 PM EDT
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?AWS A5.16 ErTi-2 would likely cover the application, MIG/TIG.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 3:30:56 PM EDT
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I'm not a welder so I have no idea what any of this means, but I do appreciate the help!
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 3:34:52 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/14/2021 4:06:10 PM EDT
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I'm not a welder so I have no idea what any of this means, but I do appreciate the help!
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Filler material type, whether MIG wire or TIG rod, generally a "one does it all" for Ti grades.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 4:08:31 PM EDT
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Make a lightweight muzzle device from steel.

I'm going to bet I can match the weight or get so close it doesn't matter.
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17-4 is a good choice.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 8:26:06 PM EDT
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@unclemoak may have interest.


And the guy has mad skills. Last I read he does ~300 P/W jobs in a year. Let's see if he responds here.
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Thanks

I can do it. I have Ti filler and pins.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 9:34:03 PM EDT
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Thanks

I can do it. I have Ti filler and pins.
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@unclemoak may have interest.


And the guy has mad skills. Last I read he does ~300 P/W jobs in a year. Let's see if he responds here.

Thanks

I can do it. I have Ti filler and pins.

@J_MONEY
@brich2929


There you go. Doubt that you'll find better craftsmanship.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 11:44:54 PM EDT
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Thanks

I can do it. I have Ti filler and pins.
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Awesome! PM sent.
Link Posted: 1/14/2021 11:45:12 PM EDT
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@J_MONEY
@brich2929


There you go. Doubt that you'll find better craftsmanship.
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Thanks for the mention
Link Posted: 2/24/2021 9:20:27 PM EDT
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I'm looking for someone to pin/weld a titanium muzzle device for an ultralight build and can't seem to find a shop willing to do it. Any ideas? Thanks.
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Did you try ADCO?
Link Posted: 3/4/2021 6:06:33 PM EDT
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Just braze it.  No one will know the difference.

TIG welding titanium requires a shielding gas chamber and is a PIA.
Link Posted: 3/15/2021 12:09:48 PM EDT
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Just braze it.  No one will know the difference.

TIG welding titanium requires a shielding gas chamber and is a PIA.
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Not when it's a pin in a blind hole. The normal gas lens provides more than ample shielding.
Link Posted: 4/25/2021 10:55:12 AM EDT
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Not when it's a pin in a blind hole. The normal gas lens provides more than ample shielding.
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Just braze it.  No one will know the difference.

TIG welding titanium requires a shielding gas chamber and is a PIA.

Not when it's a pin in a blind hole. The normal gas lens provides more than ample shielding.



Just get a small tank of 99% Ar or He. Get a small piece of CP Ti weld wire.   Maybe the flash hider is 6-4 - CP wire will work just fine for this and be cheaper, a little.
Make a foil cup if you want over the nozzle to help flood the shield gas.    
It’s not that bad, especially like the guy above said as you don’t need to worry about back side shield gas.  

It’s not like you’re welding plate for a submarine hull or a wing on a fighter jet.
Link Posted: 5/29/2021 7:34:27 PM EDT
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