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Posted: 5/6/2018 11:15:25 PM EDT
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The HMG-44 has been teased vaporwear for years, with still no signs of shipment. Yet they’re already touting this project. I badly want both. I doubt I see either, certainly any time soon.
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Posted: 5/6/2018 11:39:44 PM EDT
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They pulled off the Cetme L thing pretty quick and painlessly. I think that was because they had parts kits to work off of. If the L85 has parts kits as well I think we have hope. It's it's a ground up build like the stg44 then who knows.
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Posted: 5/7/2018 12:26:32 AM EDT
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I would rather seem them do a FAMAS F1 with the G2 magwell to use STANAG mags.
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Posted: 5/7/2018 12:41:07 AM EDT
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I would rather seem them do a FAMAS F1 with the G2 magwell to use STANAG mags. |
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Posted: 5/7/2018 12:45:54 AM EDT
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It's a running joke with them, they are not making L85's.
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Posted: 5/7/2018 1:07:49 AM EDT
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It's a running joke with them, they are not making L85's. |
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Posted: 5/7/2018 2:00:41 AM EDT
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+1 if love a stanag Famas. I wouldn’t pay for a L85. |
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Posted: 5/7/2018 7:28:04 AM EDT
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I would rather seem them do a FAMAS F1 with the G2 magwell to use STANAG mags. 
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Posted: 5/7/2018 7:52:54 AM EDT
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It's a running joke with them, they are not making L85's. |
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Posted: 5/7/2018 12:33:12 PM EDT
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So they’re not even actually looking at making them? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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It's a running joke with them, they are not making L85's. 
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Posted: 5/21/2018 11:32:58 PM EDT
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I wouldn't hold your breath the HMG STG 44 still hasn't shipped a single gun !
Their original shipping date issued was Fall 2015 followed by April 2016 ! So their we are still perfecting stories are bullshit , can we all say ponzi !? |
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Posted: 5/21/2018 11:36:19 PM EDT
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I don't think you know what a ponzi scheme is.
If you're suggesting that it's vaporware and that they're failing to deliver the product you paid for, then that's one thing. But since none of the customers are getting any returns from anything they may have paid, it's not a ponzi scheme. They do keep displaying them and going to shows so I'm guessing they're just delayed like any overly optimistic small business is prone to. |
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Posted: 5/22/2018 5:01:14 AM EDT
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I would rather seem them do a FAMAS F1 with the G2 magwell to use STANAG mags. 
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Posted: 5/22/2018 6:12:34 AM EDT
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I remember when Prexis (is that even a thing still) was working on the recievers calling it the PL-85
.....And that was 10 years ago. |
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Posted: 5/22/2018 6:49:38 AM EDT
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We need the FAMAS, MP40, and SVD.
I’d own an L85, but not for what they would probably sell for. |
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Posted: 5/22/2018 9:45:40 AM EDT
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I don't think you know what a ponzi scheme is. If you're suggesting that it's vaporware and that they're failing to deliver the product you paid for, then that's one thing. But since none of the customers are getting any returns from anything they may have paid, it's not a ponzi scheme. They do keep displaying them and going to shows so I'm guessing they're just delayed like any overly optimistic small business is prone to. However HMG has been creative with the truth over the intervening years and have flat out lied n other occasions. One of the latest delays was magazine manufacturer delays , but they are on video form several years ago stating "We make them in house". The statements of will be ready to ship fall 2015 was clearly a lie as the gun was no where ready technically. The same old guns are seen in pictures yet never more than a handful at a time. How close are they to release!? Well there have been multiple release dates since 2015 it's 2018 now and there is still not a single review of a pre production firing let alone finished gun. If you are feeling generous you can say but it's a difficult project reengineering a 70 year old design. HMG made multiple false claims as to the progress of their project leaving customers waiting with no end in sight. |
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Posted: 5/23/2018 7:34:49 PM EDT
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I grabbed one of their fliers at the NRA show and fondled their rifle. Looked nice, cycled smoothly.
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Posted: 5/23/2018 8:22:20 PM EDT
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If you are feeling generous you can say but it's a difficult project reengineering a 70 year old design. HMG made multiple false claims as to the progress of their project leaving customers waiting with no end in sight. 
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Posted: 5/23/2018 11:48:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You are correct I am mistaken . However HMG has been creative with the truth over the intervening years and have flat out lied n other occasions. One of the latest delays was magazine manufacturer delays , but they are on video form several years ago stating "We make them in house". The statements of will be ready to ship fall 2015 was clearly a lie as the gun was no where ready technically. The same old guns are seen in pictures yet never more than a handful at a time. How close are they to release!? Well there have been multiple release dates since 2015 it's 2018 now and there is still not a single review of a pre production firing let alone finished gun. If you are feeling generous you can say but it's a difficult project reengineering a 70 year old design. HMG made multiple false claims as to the progress of their project leaving customers waiting with no end in sight. |
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Posted: 5/24/2018 11:37:52 AM EDT
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As I understand it, they will make the mags in house - once they have a proper mold from another company. We'll see what happens. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: You are correct I am mistaken . However HMG has been creative with the truth over the intervening years and have flat out lied n other occasions. One of the latest delays was magazine manufacturer delays , but they are on video form several years ago stating "We make them in house". The statements of will be ready to ship fall 2015 was clearly a lie as the gun was no where ready technically. The same old guns are seen in pictures yet never more than a handful at a time. How close are they to release!? Well there have been multiple release dates since 2015 it's 2018 now and there is still not a single review of a pre production firing let alone finished gun. If you are feeling generous you can say but it's a difficult project reengineering a 70 year old design. HMG made multiple false claims as to the progress of their project leaving customers waiting with no end in sight. |
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Posted: 5/25/2018 9:55:46 AM EDT
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And shock horror another delay in the almost ready mags in 2018 that were originally ready to ship in 2015!
Never saw that coming LOL ! |
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Posted: 5/26/2018 9:11:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So they’re not even actually looking at making them? 
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Posted: 5/27/2018 3:01:27 PM EDT
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No, absolutely not...ZERO chance of an HMG-produced L85. The entire thing was a joke. One one of their facebook live chats they were talking about potential future projects and a person watching the video asked about L85, if HMG would make them. After an emphatic "no way in hell" response, it's become a go-to joke comment on all their subsequent videos. Somehow humor-challenged people have picked up on this and started to actually believe it's a real project. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: So they’re not even actually looking at making them? |
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Posted: 5/27/2018 4:05:26 PM EDT
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It's not really that funny of a joke.
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Posted: 5/27/2018 7:05:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Dunno, seems as plausible as making reproduction STG-44’s. So far they’ve shipped the same number of each. I'm on the waiting list. I'd like my gun, but I'm fine the wait. I want it done right, not rushed out there in hopes that it's right. If you don't want to wait they'll prolly give you a refund. Either way, there will never be an hmg L85...not even an official vaporware one. |
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Posted: 5/30/2018 6:42:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: There's plenty of videos of hmg shooting their STG. The hang up is their proprietary mags, which has delayed things for months. If all you wanted to do is shoot with pmags or other stanag mags, they COULD prolly sell you an STG. They prolly won't because they want this thing to work with an stg-looking mag, but they could. Reenactors are such a big % of their buyers, I don't blame them. I'm on the waiting list. I'd like my gun, but I'm fine the wait. I want it done right, not rushed out there in hopes that it's right. If you don't want to wait they'll prolly give you a refund. Either way, there will never be an hmg L85...not even an official vaporware one. |
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Posted: 5/30/2018 8:32:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Man you must have consumed a metric shit-ton of their Kool Aid.... |
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Posted: 5/30/2018 8:46:29 PM EDT
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I dunno what your problem is, but in America people are free to buy whatever the hell they want to buy. If you don't like it, don't buy their stuff. It's really that simple. No one that would preorder one of these cares what you think of HMG or their gun...and you're preaching to the choir for everyone else. It's a waste of time and OT to just come into the thread about a running joke non-product and bash HMG about an unrelated product. This isn't the GD.
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Posted: 5/30/2018 9:42:20 PM EDT
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I dunno what your problem is, but in America people are free to buy whatever the hell they want to buy. If you don't like it, don't buy their stuff. It's really that simple. No one that would preorder one of these cares what you think of HMG or their gun...and you're preaching to the choir for everyone else. It's a waste of time and OT to just come into the thread about a running joke non-product and bash HMG about an unrelated product. This isn't the GD. |
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Posted: 5/31/2018 2:17:27 AM EDT
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Says a guy in califreakingfornia. Vaporware guns are gonna be the only kind you're allowed to have very soon, so maybe you should get on that preorder list after all. Have a nice day.
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