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Posted: 4/14/2017 11:39:57 AM EDT
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This should get the Indians riled up...
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Posted: 4/14/2017 11:43:44 AM EDT
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Yep, my prediction is Wednesday 4/5 "One of our subcontractors/suppliers let us down so we're redesigning the |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 12:01:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLol
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Posted: 4/14/2017 12:34:41 PM EDT
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We might as well get back to talking about AUG's, X95's, and other real guns in this thread.
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Posted: 4/14/2017 1:28:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhat a bunch of shit. Nick Young should be embarrassed.
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Posted: 4/14/2017 2:45:40 PM EDT
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What a bunch of shit. Nick Young should be embarrassed. |
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Posted: 4/14/2017 3:58:40 PM EDT
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I'm not sure he's capable of feeling that emotion Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What a bunch of shit. Nick Young should be embarrassed. 
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:02:54 AM EDT
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Even if DT ever releases the MDR...I wouldn't trust QA/QC on that platform for a good two years.
When a company consistently cannot deliver on dates due to "unforeseen" parts issues (sourcing raw materials or making the parts) is a company that lacks proper control measures to mitigate such issues ahead of time. Sure...a seldom issue here and there happens to all but I think man will forget about this platform soon. Which sucks...it has potential. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:58:55 PM EDT
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Even if DT ever releases the MDR...I wouldn't trust QA/QC on that platform for a good two years. When a company consistently cannot deliver on dates due to "unforeseen" parts issues (sourcing raw materials or making the parts) is a company that lacks proper control measures to mitigate such issues ahead of time. Sure...a seldom issue here and there happens to all but I think man will forget about this platform soon. Which sucks...it has potential. I can't wait to see the Gen II one at Shot 2019 and it's release in 2024. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:27:52 PM EDT
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Isn't their bullpup bolt action rifle pretty good? Sucks that they seem to be giving everyone the run around and shit,
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:29:55 PM EDT
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No idea what it was.
Saw pictures. Hate bullpups. Power to those that like them but wouldnt take one if it was free. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 12:13:49 PM EDT
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No idea what it was. Saw pictures. Hate bullpups. Power to those that like them but wouldnt take one if it was free. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 1:12:54 PM EDT
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No idea what it was. Saw pictures. Hate bullpups. Power to those that like them but wouldnt take one if it was free. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 3:25:33 PM EDT
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No idea what it was. Saw pictures. Hate bullpups. Power to those that like them but wouldnt take one if it was free.  They just want everyone else to know that too. I just noticed that he's from California. Probably jealous that he can't have a bullpup.
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Posted: 4/22/2017 4:48:11 PM EDT
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Hate bullpups. 
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Posted: 4/22/2017 10:38:05 PM EDT
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Like all the Haters, he doesn't have one. They just want everyone else to know that too. I just noticed that he's from California. Probably jealous that he can't have a bullpup. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 12:25:42 AM EDT
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I had to laugh when I read the manufacturer's blog. Even when he's trying NOT to say anything....he still manages to put his foot in his mouth....
This is an excerpt from the CEO: To our valued customers, The MDR’s are still on track to start shipping late April. We don’t have much more to say than that....{etc.} You can tell he's trying to do the right thing.....but it ain't workin'. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 10:44:40 AM EDT
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Late April? Running short on time...again.
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Posted: 4/23/2017 11:21:05 AM EDT
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They lost all credibility after last year's sappy video about giving a firm committment to shipping 3rd quarter 2016.
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Posted: 4/23/2017 2:19:42 PM EDT
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They lost all credibility after last year's sappy video about giving a firm committment to shipping 3rd quarter 2016. |
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Posted: 4/23/2017 7:42:33 PM EDT
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Yup. When he missed the release date that he promised in the video, I pulled out of the group buy. He's full of shit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They lost all credibility after last year's sappy video about giving a firm committment to shipping 3rd quarter 2016. They make awesome stuff based on the one time I got to shoot some of their bolt actions but they are their own worst enemy with the hype and misleading to flat out lying PR they release. Article on their new distributor http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/04/21/idex-2017-caracal-license-producing-sig-p320-distributing-desert-tech-sniper-rifles/ Pakistan story http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/05/desert-tech-utah-gunmaker-turns-down-15-million-deal-with-pakistan.html Pakistans response to DT's claim https://www.dawn.com/news/1079639 |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 2:57:37 AM EDT
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Or after the big stink they raised about pulling out of a Pakistani contract competition for PR then quietly let Caracal become a overseas distributor of their weapons. Like the UAE doesn't fund turds just like Pakistan does. They make awesome stuff based on the one time I got to shoot some of their bolt actions but they are their own worst enemy with the hype and misleading to flat out lying PR they release. Article on their new distributor http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2017/04/21/idex-2017-caracal-license-producing-sig-p320-distributing-desert-tech-sniper-rifles/ Pakistan story http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/01/05/desert-tech-utah-gunmaker-turns-down-15-million-deal-with-pakistan.html Pakistans response to DT's claim https://www.dawn.com/news/1079639 |
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Posted: 4/24/2017 8:41:13 AM EDT
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I went ahead and got an RDB instead of waiting on MDR. So far so good.
I have a hard time now trusting DT can come through with the MDR and even if they do...I wouldn't trust my $2000 for about two years after it has released because I am sure all the issues will be blamed on something other than DT. |
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Posted: 4/25/2017 9:41:38 PM EDT
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It is getting annoying, I think unless there is something good by NRA show I might jump ship and go get a x95 and use the rest to save for the STG44 fromHMG. I looked and I am now a year past when I sent in my deposit.
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Posted: 4/25/2017 10:34:58 PM EDT
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I was mildly interested in getting an MDR in 7.62x51mm, but no longer. One thing that will always kill my interest in a platform or manufacturer is the hype becomes like beating a dead horse with another dead horse, and then we see zero results for years. I may possibly be interested in one of their boltguns, but in all honesty I think I'd be better served buying a Barrett 98Bravo or Accuracy International sniper rifle. At least with the AI rifle I know I'm buying an actual military issue weapon (or as close as possible) rather than a civvie gun playing tactikewl pretend.
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Posted: 4/25/2017 11:25:39 PM EDT
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The hype is gone and that ship has sailed for me.
I am still ever optomistic it will be released but I just cant see dropping that much on it anymore after what they have done to cast doubt on their credibility. Eta: IF IT'S NOT READY IT'S NOT READY AND THAT IS OKAY. But stop saying it's next month or next quarter if it really isn't. This is how they proved they are full of sh*t. |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 4:34:35 AM EDT
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The hype is gone and that ship has sailed for me. I am still ever optomistic it will be released but I just cant see dropping that much on it anymore after what they have done to cast doubt on their credibility. Eta: IF IT'S NOT READY IT'S NOT READY AND THAT IS OKAY. But stop saying it's next month or next quarter if it really isn't. This is how they proved they are full of sh*t. |
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Posted: 4/26/2017 5:27:50 AM EDT
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I will probably never part with my SRS-A1(which is the Gen2), I love it that much. But at this point I have spent my MDR money on other toys as I have the sneaking suspicion like so many others that the first generation will be plagued with issues and I just have this feeling that I've been taken advantage of. There's no excuse for lying to people. My 10mm Vector should be here soon.
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Posted: 4/26/2017 5:40:46 AM EDT
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I learned 30+ years ago that ''soon to be released'' guns are vaporware until you actually see them on the shelves.
Nothing has changed in that time to make me change my mind. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 2:48:11 PM EDT
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After reading this thread, I'm rather glad that I didn't get into the group buy...
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Posted: 4/27/2017 10:34:47 PM EDT
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It is getting rather old and I wonder if the ejection chute delay is all there was to it. I still have my $500 or whatever down with Oakland tactical for one of their first fde 308's. If I'd had the full amount out there all this time I'd be pissed by now but I'm just annoyed at the moment.
I want another 308 bullpup. Rfb didn't meet my needs. There is nothing else currently on the market or in the pipeline that I know of that will do what the mdr advertises. If it turns out to be a flop then so be it. I guess I'd try the 308 adaptation of the bushmaster m17 from k&m. I don't need one right this minute so I'll just keep waiting for the mdr to come to fruition. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:36:18 PM EDT
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It is getting rather old and I wonder if the ejection chute delay is all there was to it. I still have my $500 or whatever down with Oakland tactical for one of their first fde 308's. If I'd had the full amount out there all this time I'd be pissed by now but I'm just annoyed at the moment. I want another 308 bullpup. Rfb didn't meet my needs. There is nothing else currently on the market or in the pipeline that I know of that will do what the mdr advertises. If it turns out to be a flop then so be it. I guess I'd try the 308 adaptation of the bushmaster m17 from k&m. I don't need one right this minute so I'll just keep waiting for the mdr to come to fruition. |
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Posted: 4/27/2017 11:54:27 PM EDT
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I want accuracy and decent sound reduction suppressed. The rfb was neither quiet nor accurate and I don't think a m14 based gun would meet my needs any better. Plus that would be another set of mags I'd have to keep.
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Posted: 4/28/2017 1:02:26 AM EDT
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You could get yourself an 18" M14 style rifle and put it in a Juggernaut bullpup chassis. If you wanted to go this route, I'd suggest investing in an LRB barreled action and USGI trigger group. LRB makes the best M14 style rifles on the market, and are as close to USGI specs as you can get. They use receivers, bolts, and operating rods properly forged to USGI spec instead of using investment casting like Springfield and Fulton Armory. Their customer service is also top notch. If you want to spend a little less, but still have a rifle built as closely to USGI spec as possible and with forged parts instead of cast, you could get a James River Armory Rock-Ola branded M14 with a 19" barrel. I'd personally go that way for a .308 bullpup, but then I'm a big M14 fan. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 7:24:26 AM EDT
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I'll try and swing by their booth at the NRA show on Saturday, hopefully they'll have some functional guns there.
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Posted: 4/28/2017 7:55:54 AM EDT
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I was mildly interested in getting an MDR in 7.62x51mm, but no longer. One thing that will always kill my interest in a platform or manufacturer is the hype becomes like beating a dead horse with another dead horse, and then we see zero results for years. I may possibly be interested in one of their boltguns, but in all honesty I think I'd be better served buying a Barrett 98Bravo or Accuracy International sniper rifle. At least with the AI rifle I know I'm buying an actual military issue weapon (or as close as possible) rather than a civvie gun playing tactikewl pretend. 
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Posted: 4/28/2017 8:33:20 AM EDT
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If they don't start shipping they're about to run fresh out of 'late April'.
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Posted: 4/28/2017 10:43:45 AM EDT
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Looks like it isn't made anymore. Plus from handling one at a bullpup shoot years ago it is way way too heavy for what it is. Not counting the m14 components 7+lbs for the chassis according to the discontinued listing on brownells once you add in the m14 guts and a optic you are talking about depending on the optic potentially being near a unloaded m249 paras weight. I want to say the one I handled was 12 pounds with a red dot but it has been years so who know how far off the mark I am with that. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 2:12:12 PM EDT
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I was originally going to get a M1A and that chassis, but opted for a .308 AR (that got replaced later on) instead when I held one. It was closer to 15 pounds before any accessories IICR. I can handle a heavy rifle on a long hike, but IMO that weight would be better off being rationed elsewhere (more ammo, more food, etc depending on what you're doing). |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 3:44:18 PM EDT
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What do you guys think the story will be on Monday? Unfortunately I wont get to see it as I was removed from their FB page. Please let me know. LOL.
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Posted: 4/28/2017 4:43:42 PM EDT
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I'm sure their story on Monday will say to stop by their booth at the NRA convention for the latest news.
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Posted: 4/28/2017 5:17:24 PM EDT
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That's probably correct running weight numbers I got from some quick sloppy goggle searches and the calculator on my phone a full length usgi contor m1a stuffed in that chassis would be about 13.6lbs bare with nothing else on it. Throw in a loaded mag you are at 15.2lbs before you even add a optic... So you get a battle rifle that weighs as much as a SAW. Agreed on that being a poor rationing of weight. I think it also cost as much as the rifle you stuck in it if I remember correctly. That's a huge no go for me as well. Good luck to the guys that came up with it though I remember them being pretty nice at that shoot. I want to say it was the Kentucky one but it could have been one of the Illinois ones. Quote HistoryQuoted:
That's probably correct running weight numbers I got from some quick sloppy goggle searches and the calculator on my phone a full length usgi contor m1a stuffed in that chassis would be about 13.6lbs bare with nothing else on it. Throw in a loaded mag you are at 15.2lbs before you even add a optic... So you get a battle rifle that weighs as much as a SAW. Agreed on that being a poor rationing of weight. I think it also cost as much as the rifle you stuck in it if I remember correctly. That's a huge no go for me as well. Good luck to the guys that came up with it though I remember them being pretty nice at that shoot. I want to say it was the Kentucky one but it could have been one of the Illinois ones. Quoted:
What do you guys think the story will be on Monday? Unfortunately I wont get to see it as I was removed from their FB page. Please let me know. LOL. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 5:33:04 PM EDT
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What do you guys think the story will be on Monday? Unfortunately I wont get to see it as I was removed from their FB page. Please let me know. LOL. All the toilet seats broke at DT's facilities, their toilet seat manufacturer is "backed up"  and all toilet seats are currently backordered indefinitely. As such a precarious situation like this dictates, the employees at DT are on strike until these special toilet seats are installed in their restrooms. Until further notice the MDR is delayed due to toiletgate.
Or maybe they'll just tell the truth. We completely underestimated the complexity of mass producing a quality semi-auto and this is taking much longer than we had hoped. Our management team including the President has been replaced with external hires and we hope to have production at full capacity in the next year. When an update is warranted we will let you know, until then all deposits have been returned and we are no longer taking money for a gun that is not in nor ready for production. - The new management team |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 5:36:09 PM EDT
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What do you guys think the story will be on Monday? Unfortunately I wont get to see it as I was removed from their FB page. Please let me know. LOL. Sincerely, Desert Tech chief information minister PS: to contact me for more information my working hours are every other Monday from 0900 to 0905:30." 
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Posted: 4/28/2017 5:39:40 PM EDT
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New update. Of course they're blaming someone else.
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Posted: 4/28/2017 6:04:16 PM EDT
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New update. Of course they're blaming someone else. https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/18119370_1689579507722250_2132515431749874796_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=3daaf8e2284ade286088128934f89cbe&oe=597451D5 |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 6:38:02 PM EDT
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New update. Of course they're blaming someone else. https://scontent-iad3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/18119370_1689579507722250_2132515431749874796_n.jpg?efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&oh=3daaf8e2284ade286088128934f89cbe&oe=597451D5 |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 6:42:03 PM EDT
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Holy shit, how many times can a person keep spitting out excuses before you just say "They'll ship when they ship, which may be never." |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 7:37:20 PM EDT
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I've honestly lost count of how many times they've delayed this rifle, as well as how many times they've blamed undisclosed third parties rather than themselves. This is embarrassing.
I went from being a huge fanboy of this rifle to honestly just wanting to witness the huge trainwreck this has become. |
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Posted: 4/28/2017 7:45:57 PM EDT
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Laugh out fu**ing loud
How in the hell can it always be a parts supplier and thanks for the great update DT. YEAH I bet it would have been ready to ship if it wasnt for one of your suppliers faults......... riigggggghhhhht. Now it all makes sense why it hasnt been released yet and more so why you cant get any good predictions of when it will be. Its all because its someone else's fault month after month and year after year!!! The hypocrisy in their statement of "in order to keep you informed we are making an update today" is very sickening. |
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