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Posted: 6/13/2009 6:04:56 PM EDT
Cant seem to find what I'm looking for on this bullet. Any suggestions for best long range accuaracy?
Link Posted: 6/13/2009 6:10:44 PM EDT
[#1]
RL-15 or Varget.  If you can find some.
Link Posted: 6/13/2009 6:30:55 PM EDT
[#2]
Consider TAC also.
Link Posted: 6/13/2009 6:58:44 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Cant seem to find what I'm looking for on this bullet. Any suggestions for best long range accuaracy?


My fun load is pushed by AA2520...

Link Posted: 6/13/2009 6:58:45 PM EDT
[#4]
dang, a double tap...

Link Posted: 6/13/2009 7:10:51 PM EDT
[#5]
Quoted:
RL-15 or Varget.  If you can find some.


+1

But I am playing around with TAC to see how that does.
Link Posted: 6/13/2009 7:53:11 PM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
RL-15 or Varget.  If you can find some.


I agree. My shop had 2 8lb kegs of Varget this week. Regrettably I could only afford one of them. But at least I can go back to my favorite heavy bullet powder instead of messing with VV140 an RL15.
Link Posted: 6/13/2009 9:40:59 PM EDT
[#7]
24.0 gr Varget
or
23.5 gr TAC

Winchester SR primer
Winchester case
2.245" OAL



If you want an even better long range load, substitute into the recipe the Sierra 80 gr MatchKing bullet seated 0.010" off your lands.  You have to single load them but they do better at extended distances.
Link Posted: 6/13/2009 9:56:07 PM EDT
[#8]
~24.0 grains of Varget
Link Posted: 6/13/2009 10:23:56 PM EDT
[#9]
I use BL(C)-2 to push my 75 gr pills.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 5:58:45 AM EDT
[#10]
RL-15, second choice(s): N140 or Varget
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 7:07:05 AM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
RL-15 or Varget.  If you can find some.


+1

But I am playing around with TAC to see how that does.


Thanks for the info guys! I get the idea that powder is as hard to find as primers in some areas. I was at the gun show here in San Antonio yesterday and found my usual reloading guy stocked up to his eyeballs with just about every powder anyone would need! Needless to say he was pulling in cash like an icecream stand in hell!
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:26:36 AM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
24.0 gr Varget
or
23.5 gr TAC

Winchester SR primer
Winchester case
2.245" OAL



If you want an even better long range load, substitute into the recipe the Sierra 80 gr MatchKing bullet seated 0.010" off your lands.  You have to single load them but they do better at extended distances.


Mike...any idea of the velocity you are getting out of a 20" barrel with the TAC or Varget loadings?

Thanks...
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:46:27 AM EDT
[#13]
I think I was getting around 2700 fps from my 20" gun using Varget.  I don't recall the exact loading.  I went for accuracy over velocity.



24gr of Varget was close to what I was using, I think.  Consult your manual or the reloading section here.

Link Posted: 6/14/2009 8:57:18 AM EDT
[#14]
24.0 gn of Varget seems to be the sweet spot for 75-77 gn bullets. Of course that's pretty much close to a max load, so just be careful getting there.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:14:26 AM EDT
[#15]
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:35:18 AM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:

Mike...any idea of the velocity you are getting out of a 20" barrel with the TAC or Varget loadings?

Thanks...


With the Varget, I get 2500 fps from a 16" RRA barrel and 2800 fps from a 26" Krieger.  That would put a 20" barrel at about 2650 fps but I don't have a 20" barrel with which to test.  

The load using TAC is about 100 fps faster from both barrels.
Link Posted: 6/14/2009 9:42:49 AM EDT
[#17]
Quoted:
Quoted:

Mike...any idea of the velocity you are getting out of a 20" barrel with the TAC or Varget loadings?

Thanks...


With the Varget, I get 2500 fps from a 16" RRA barrel and 2800 fps from a 26" Krieger.  That would put a 20" barrel at about 2650 fps but I don't have a 20" barrel with which to test.  

The load using TAC is about 100 fps faster from both barrels.


Thanks...just wanted a point of reference...I am sitting on a bunch of TAC....

My once fired Prvi brass with AA2520 run 2750 thru a 20" Lilja and 2600 fps thru a 16" SS barrel

Link Posted: 6/14/2009 2:45:54 PM EDT
[#18]
AA2495 is another consideration.  I have not tested the loads I have built at 20.0 and 21.0 grains yet but if they are like any of the other 223 loads I have built with Accurate Arms Powders they should give good results. While the 2495 grains are not short cut they meter easily through my RCBS Unilfow Measure.   Another Powder I am considering building some rounds with and testing is IMR 3031.  VV N140 is also a great powder that is versatile and produces tight groups in both 223 and 308.  If you can't get Hodgden Powder Consider some old school powders like IMR 4064,4320,4895, and even the newer 4007.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 6:48:48 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
I use BL(C)-2 to push my 75 gr pills.


Me two, 25.0 grains to be exact with the Hornady 75 grain BTHP Match bullet.
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 8:35:21 AM EDT
[#20]
With 23.5 gr I was running about 2750 fps +/-. I have loaded up to 24gr of TAC behind the 75 before, but can't remember what the velocity was and it was starting to get maxish.

Ramshots 5.56 data for the 77gr bullets show (20" barrel)

Bullet weight: 77 grain HP.
Start load: 22.1 grains (2525 – 2625 Ft/p/sec)
Maximum load: 24.5 grains (2750 – 2850 Ft/p/sec). <62000 Psi
Link Posted: 6/15/2009 7:45:25 PM EDT
[#21]
Quoted:
24.0 gr Varget
or
23.5 gr TAC

Winchester SR primer
Winchester case
2.245" OAL



If you want an even better long range load, substitute into the recipe the Sierra 80 gr MatchKing bullet seated 0.010" off your lands.  You have to single load them but they do better at extended distances.


My Hornady data says 2.235.  Has anyone tried that lenght, and should I seat them longer?  Not trying to hijack.  

I use 24.0 RE15
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