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Posted: 7/4/2013 7:17:05 PM EDT
Well ive narrowed down my choices, and i need your help. Should i get the chris reeve green beret or this strider.
http://www.monkeyedge.com/Strider-Knives-Fixed-MSS-Tanto-CPM-3V-p/sk1012.htm Or any other suggestions on good fixed blades in the $300-$350 range Just starting out collecting knives and would like to get off on the right foot. Thanks guys |
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Both are great quality knives from great knife makers. If I had to choose, I would go with the Strider.
Mick and Dwayne are good people. I like this one. http://www.monkeyedge.com/Strider-Knives-Fixed-BT-w-Spine-Serrations-Cord-p/sk1047.htm |
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Both are great quality knives from great knife makers. If I had to choose, I would go with the Strider. Mick and Dwayne are good people. I like this one. http://www.monkeyedge.com/Strider-Knives-Fixed-BT-w-Spine-Serrations-Cord-p/sk1047.htm Did you seriously just call them good people? |
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Both are great quality knives from great knife makers. If I had to choose, I would go with the Strider. Mick and Dwayne are good people. I like this one. http://www.monkeyedge.com/Strider-Knives-Fixed-BT-w-Spine-Serrations-Cord-p/sk1047.htm Did you seriously just call them good people? Yup. I have met both of them and their knowledge of knife making is good in my book. If you are referring to all the other stuff that has been said all over the forums, I have no knowledge related to that and this is not GD in this part of the forum. Lets keep it civil so OP's thread does not get locked. |
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might also check out Busse's.
they are in your $ range. outta the 2 you mentioned CR clown |
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Both are great quality knives from great knife makers. If I had to choose, I would go with the Strider. Mick and Dwayne are good people. I like this one. http://www.monkeyedge.com/Strider-Knives-Fixed-BT-w-Spine-Serrations-Cord-p/sk1047.htm Did you seriously just call them good people? Yup. I have met both of them and their knowledge of knife making is good in my book. If you are referring to all the other stuff that has been said all over the forums, I have no knowledge related to that and this is not GD in this part of the forum. Lets keep it civil so OP's thread does not get locked. I'd say stolen valor and felony activities are definitely relevant in choosing a knife. I'd get a Chris Reeves. Not only is he not a violent felon who faked his military career, but his knives aren't made 100% on a CNC and waterjet either. |
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I would take a Strider folder over a Chris Reeve (and I own one of each), but I'm not crazy about Strider's fixed blades. Most of them just seem like sharpened pry bars.
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Not to speak for the OP, but he said he's just starting out. I didn't get into customs, or know any makers until I "learned" on production pieces, and had been around the forums a bit.
How about we give him some direction on custom guys to do business with?
The above list are guys that do great work, and that you could get a piece from relatively quickly. The guys below do great work, but you would have to score a piece on the secondary market as their wait times are pretty long.
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Both are great quality knives from great knife makers. If I had to choose, I would go with the Strider. Mick and Dwayne are good people. I like this one. http://www.monkeyedge.com/Strider-Knives-Fixed-BT-w-Spine-Serrations-Cord-p/sk1047.htm Did you seriously just call them good people? Yup. I have met both of them and their knowledge of knife making is good in my book. If you are referring to all the other stuff that has been said all over the forums, I have no knowledge related to that and this is not GD in this part of the forum. Lets keep it civil so OP's thread does not get locked. So you have no knowledge, but you know that "other stuff has been said...."? you're right this isn't GD, so there's no reason to talk out of your ass and call them "good people" because they make decent knives. I understand some people don't care about the stolen valor. However, I sure do care, and feel like everyone should know so they can consider that before purchasing. |
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Both are great quality knives from great knife makers. If I had to choose, I would go with the Strider. Mick and Dwayne are good people. I like this one. http://www.monkeyedge.com/Strider-Knives-Fixed-BT-w-Spine-Serrations-Cord-p/sk1047.htm Did you seriously just call them good people? Yup. I have met both of them and their knowledge of knife making is good in my book. If you are referring to all the other stuff that has been said all over the forums, I have no knowledge related to that and this is not GD in this part of the forum. Lets keep it civil so OP's thread does not get locked. So you have no knowledge, but you know that "other stuff has been said...."? you're right this isn't GD, so there's no reason to talk out of your ass and call them "good people" because they make decent knives. I understand some people don't care about the stolen valor. However, I sure do care, and feel like everyone should know so they can consider that before purchasing. Don't forget that he made his first blade out of a toothbrush on a prison wall for armed car jacking. I, like you, have morals and refuse to buy from people I'd spit on in real life, no matter how quality their overpriced waterjet knife is. Fuck Micky Ray Burger. Fuck him for saying the Marines at TAD didn't have shit for combat experience compared to him when they did, and he literally had none (outside of a prison shower). Fuck him for claiming he was special forces when he was actually in prison. I can't imagine the turd that rolled out of his pants when eveeyone found out his real name and background. The sad thing is that some people still buy them. |
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The things I learn here amaze me sometimes. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/453852-Mick-Strider-has-some-explaining-to-do |
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thanks for all the information fellas im more than likely going to go with the chris knife i will post pictures when i make up my mind and it arrives. Excuse my ignorance but is there anyone who thinks strider knives did not steal valor? I find it hard to believe that they are still in business if he actually did, unless there are than many tards out there.
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thanks for all the information fellas im more than likely going to go with the chris knife i will post pictures when i make up my mind and it arrives. Excuse my ignorance but is there anyone who thinks strider knives did not steal valor? I find it hard to believe that they are still in business if he actually did, unless there are than many tards out there. thanks In the link I posted above there is official court and military documentation that he stole valor that are pretty well indisputable. No one likes to admit that a company they have purchased hundreds to thousands of dollars worth of products from are scum. In the knife industry they're pretty much a running joke, but your average weekend gun range warrior isn't that big into knives to follow internet forums, and read the publications that were required by law to revoke any articles or ads claiming Mickey Ray Burger was ever anything but an asshole who got kicked out as an E1 for going AWOL. He had also changed his name which kept most of this stuff hidden for years upon years. As evidenced by sporadic topics here, most don't know, but some still think an apology makes it okay. For me, lying for almost a decade isn't a little white lie. Him claiming he was supposed to be in Mogadishu with his "brothers" like he was such a badass it would have made a difference is what pisses me off so bad. He gets caught over and over again and changes his story every time to exploit people. It's truly sad people think his actions are okay as long as the knife is sharp. |
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okay thanks for your response....
Would you consider the al mar sere to be comparable to these two knives? what about spartan blades? thanks |
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okay thanks for your response.... Would you consider the al mar sere to be comparable to these two knives? what about spartan blades? thanks Spartans are pretty wicked blades. I second the Busse recommendation above, or you could try out AR15.com's upcomer custom knifemaker, Ben at Fallen Oak Forge. He has a topic in the main blade forum titled "My humble submissions" showcasing just a portion of his knives. I was going to get a Busse but went that route instead. Reason being is if you buy a knife like a Busse, Strider, CRK, and many other customs, you're getting a machined chunk of steel. Ben hand grinds all of his blades and even makes his own micarta. So no two knives are the same and you can have it made exactly the way you want it. The rustic look may not be for everyone, but check him out. He makes artwork out of steel, but the differentially heat treated steel he uses means the knife will last for generations. I hesitated for a long time and window shopped thinking the prices were too much. Then I about fell out of my chair when I got a quote from him it was so affordable. He doesn't have big name recognition yet. Key word being "yet". In the years to come I fully expect him to become a big player in the knife industry, but truth be told, I love mine enough I don't care either way and have every intention of picking up more. |
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Spartan blades are top notch and made by some real deal bad asses here in NC. I highly reccomend them.
Also Up-Armored Knives. William hand makes each knife and does some pretty cool knife coatings to any existing blade you have. |
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Yes, I had forgotten about Spartan Blades, but I read all good things about their products and their people. I've only handled them at gunshows, and they seem well put together, but I can't contribute anything more than that.
As far as the Strider shit goes, if y'all want to drag that tired ass, worn out conversation to GD then I'll jump in. If not, have some respect for the OP's thread and shut the hell up about it, and realize that no one even gives a shit about your opinions anyway because it has nothing to do with the original question. This is a thread about the quality and pros and cons of owning 2 different KNIVES, not the business ethics, backgrounds or anything else about 2 company's owners. And before high and mighty jumps my shit, I'm a combat veteran who thinks Mick is a piece of shit for his personal choices. It just so happens that he's a piece of shit that makes a knife that I like. |
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I'd have no reservations whatsoever about buying a CRK fixed blade; even though I don't have any, I do own a couple of his folders and they're outstanding. I really like the blade profile on the Spartans and being prior career Navy, I have a great deal of respect for the Owners' distinguished US Army careers. Horkos on the left, Harsey Model II on the right. The sheaths are also made in the USA and are of exceptional quality. <a href="http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/C1911/media/Knives/002a-7.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff366/C1911/Knives/002a-7.jpg</a> <a href="http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/C1911/media/Knives/003a-2.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff366/C1911/Knives/003a-2.jpg</a> The jimping on the Harsey is amazing and feels like there's no way your hand will slip on it. <a href="http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/C1911/media/Knives/003-10.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff366/C1911/Knives/003-10.jpg</a> Even the Sparty bead is of high quality and is made in the USA. <a href="http://s1232.photobucket.com/user/C1911/media/Knives/004-12.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i1232.photobucket.com/albums/ff366/C1911/Knives/004-12.jpg</a> 2 fine ass looking blades you have there my man! For some reason I always pass them up when I have a few extra dollars in my pocket, but when I'm tapped on the toy fund, I always lust after one! |
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Thank you Sir, I dig them allot. Thank goodness my local gun shop stocks them and was willing to negotiate on price. |
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Yes, I had forgotten about Spartan Blades, but I read all good things about their products and their people. I've only handled them at gunshows, and they seem well put together, but I can't contribute anything more than that. As far as the Strider shit goes, if y'all want to drag that tired ass, worn out conversation to GD then I'll jump in. If not, have some respect for the OP's thread and shut the hell up about it, and realize that no one even gives a shit about your opinions anyway because it has nothing to do with the original question. This is a thread about the quality and pros and cons of owning 2 different KNIVES, not the business ethics, backgrounds or anything else about 2 company's owners. And before high and mighty jumps my shit, I'm a combat veteran who thinks Mick is a piece of shit for his personal choices. It just so happens that he's a piece of shit that makes a knife that I like. You're just dragging it out and trolling now. Our points were made and the OP was educated. As the OP stated he was previously unaware, and will be taking the facts into consideration. So just read the thread and you'll see he obviously does give a shit. Let the OP speak for himself. Funny how the Strider fanboys keep jumping in to "keep the thread on track". The points were made, if you have anything else to say feel free to pm me. |
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Yes, I had forgotten about Spartan Blades, but I read all good things about their products and their people. I've only handled them at gunshows, and they seem well put together, but I can't contribute anything more than that. As far as the Strider shit goes, if y'all want to drag that tired ass, worn out conversation to GD then I'll jump in. If not, have some respect for the OP's thread and shut the hell up about it, and realize that no one even gives a shit about your opinions anyway because it has nothing to do with the original question. This is a thread about the quality and pros and cons of owning 2 different KNIVES, not the business ethics, backgrounds or anything else about 2 company's owners. And before high and mighty jumps my shit, I'm a combat veteran who thinks Mick is a piece of shit for his personal choices. It just so happens that he's a piece of shit that makes a knife that I like. You're just dragging it out and trolling now. Our points were made and the OP was educated. As the OP stated he was previously unaware, and will be taking the facts into consideration. So just read the thread and you'll see he obviously does give a shit. Let the OP speak for himself. Funny how the Strider fanboys keep jumping in to "keep the thread on track". The points were made, if you have anything else to say feel free to pm me. Not a fanboy. Mick doesn't pay my bills and I don't give a shit what people buy from him or don't buy from him. Never met the guy, and really don't give a shit about him one way or the other. I typed all that out before I realized that you had made your point (finally, over several posts, not just one where a point could have easily been made) - I started the reply, got busy, finally finshed it and posted it before I had read the rest of the conversation. If you really need to use the gay ass term "fanboy" then I guess I come close with Patrick Doyle, Helm Forge and Tom Krein. All good dudes that I have experience with, both professionally and personally. OP, you can feel good about sending your dollars their way! ETA - skyshark288, you're not the guy I was thinking of who wasa dragging it out - my aplogies |
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Yes, I had forgotten about Spartan Blades, but I read all good things about their products and their people. I've only handled them at gunshows, and they seem well put together, but I can't contribute anything more than that. As far as the Strider shit goes, if y'all want to drag that tired ass, worn out conversation to GD then I'll jump in. If not, have some respect for the OP's thread and shut the hell up about it, and realize that no one even gives a shit about your opinions anyway because it has nothing to do with the original question. This is a thread about the quality and pros and cons of owning 2 different KNIVES, not the business ethics, backgrounds or anything else about 2 company's owners. And before high and mighty jumps my shit, I'm a combat veteran who thinks Mick is a piece of shit for his personal choices. It just so happens that he's a piece of shit that makes a knife that I like. You're just dragging it out and trolling now. Our points were made and the OP was educated. As the OP stated he was previously unaware, and will be taking the facts into consideration. So just read the thread and you'll see he obviously does give a shit. Let the OP speak for himself. Funny how the Strider fanboys keep jumping in to "keep the thread on track". The points were made, if you have anything else to say feel free to pm me. Not a fanboy. Mick doesn't pay my bills and I don't give a shit what people buy from him or don't buy from him. Never met the guy, and really don't give a shit about him one way or the other. I typed all that out before I realized that you had made your point (finally, over several posts, not just one where a point could have easily been made) - I started the reply, got busy, finally finshed it and posted it before I had read the rest of the conversation. If you really need to use the gay ass term "fanboy" then I guess I come close with Patrick Doyle, Helm Forge and Tom Krein. All good dudes that I have experience with, both professionally and personally. OP, you can feel good about sending your dollars their way! ETA - skyshark288, you're not the guy I was thinking of who wasa dragging it out - my aplogies Well if you're talking about me, it doesn't change the fact his points still stand even if you weren't replying to him. As such, I don't know what you're trying to rehash, so feel free to type out another witty reply with opinions about me rather than the company the OP asked about. It's not like the thread hadn't moved on past that point in the conversation anyways..... I prefer to be educated on products AND the companies offering them. Sewer rat may taste like pumpkin pie....... I don't want to deviate the OP's thread in his quest for steel, so feel free to PM me or start a pit thread if you want to discuss Mickey Ray Burger any further. |
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I decided to walk away for the rest of the night from this conversation. I was getting carried away over something retarded, and I apologize.
Now, back to business! OP, where's your head at? What direction are you leaning towards? Have you thought more about what role you're wanting this purchase to fill? |
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Im leaning about 90% towards the chris reeve, the other 10% is thinking about an al mar fixed blade sere. Ill have a decision by tomorrow. lol
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id think twice about buying a chris reeve knife watch this ---> chris reeve green beret knife destruction
i wouldnt buy either mick " strider" is a pos and chris reeve knives are garbage save your money for a busse if you need a high end blade like that |
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id think twice about buying a chris reeve knife watch this ---> chris reeve green beret knife destruction i wouldnt buy either mick " strider" is a pos and chris reeve knives are garbage save your money for a busse if you need a high end blade like that That knife withstood a lot of abuse and performed each task he attempted. If you end up hitting your knife with a hammer the way he did to cause it to break, you're doing it wrong. To say that the knife is garbage based of that is simply stupid. |
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id think twice about buying a chris reeve knife watch this ---> chris reeve green beret knife destruction i wouldnt buy either mick " strider" is a pos and chris reeve knives are garbage save your money for a busse if you need a high end blade like that That knife withstood a lot of abuse and performed each task he attempted. If you end up hitting your knife with a hammer the way he did to cause it to break, you're doing it wrong. To say that the knife is garbage based of that is simply stupid. I've seen more than a few high quality knives break when used outside of their intended purposes, including a nice Busse SJTAC. |
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id think twice about buying a chris reeve knife watch this ---> chris reeve green beret knife destruction i wouldnt buy either mick " strider" is a pos and chris reeve knives are garbage save your money for a busse if you need a high end blade like that That knife withstood a lot of abuse and performed each task he attempted. If you end up hitting your knife with a hammer the way he did to cause it to break, you're doing it wrong. To say that the knife is garbage based of that is simply stupid. the same guy even tested the cheap schrade copies of the same blades made by crk and the copies held up better than the actual crk made knives... that says it all right there you choose to not look it up for yourself thats your problem not mine imo its stupid to hand over 500$ for garbage |
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id think twice about buying a chris reeve knife watch this ---> chris reeve green beret knife destruction i wouldnt buy either mick " strider" is a pos and chris reeve knives are garbage save your money for a busse if you need a high end blade like that That knife withstood a lot of abuse and performed each task he attempted. If you end up hitting your knife with a hammer the way he did to cause it to break, you're doing it wrong. To say that the knife is garbage based of that is simply stupid. the same guy even tested the cheap schrade copies of the same blades made by crk and the copies held up better than the actual crk made knives... that says it all right there you choose to not look it up for yourself thats your problem not mine imo its stupid to hand over 500$ for garbage 1. They are not $500 2. You've yet to show that they are garbage, your posts are just coming across as dumb now. 3. "The Copies held up better than the actual crk made knives".... To what? Being hit while in a vise from the side with a sledge hammer? That's not what a knife is for and completely irrelevant. |
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id think twice about buying a chris reeve knife watch this ---> chris reeve green beret knife destruction i wouldnt buy either mick " strider" is a pos and chris reeve knives are garbage save your money for a busse if you need a high end blade like that That knife withstood a lot of abuse and performed each task he attempted. If you end up hitting your knife with a hammer the way he did to cause it to break, you're doing it wrong. To say that the knife is garbage based of that is simply stupid. the same guy even tested the cheap schrade copies of the same blades made by crk and the copies held up better than the actual crk made knives... that says it all right there you choose to not look it up for yourself thats your problem not mine imo its stupid to hand over 500$ for garbage 1. They are not $500 2. You've yet to show that they are garbage, your posts are just coming across as dumb now. 3. "The Copies held up better than the actual crk made knives".... To what? Being hit while in a vise from the side with a sledge hammer? That's not what a knife is for and completely irrelevant. 1. Ok the crk green beret knife isnt 500$ its 320$ i'll give you that one i stand corrected. 2. All of the destruction tests for the mentioned knives are on his youtube page, sorry but im not dumb enough to spend money on junk i do alot of research before i throw money at gear. 3. A destruction test is done to show where the weak points on a knife are , the fact that two different models from crk broke in the same spot says there is a problem with his heat treating or his steel, ive watched this guy pound a 20$ cold steel gi tanto threw angle iorn , i like knowing what my blade is able to do. |
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If the caliber of the maker means nothing to you, then both are very fine knives. If the caliber of the maker is important to you, then there is no comparison between the two knives. Which knife you choose to purchase says more about you than the knife itself. Enjoy your new knife, whichever you choose to purchase.
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I've used Chris' knives for decades. It's sad his "One Piece" line is gone, but his current fixed blades are excellent.
As to deliberate attempts to destroy a knife, you can destroy anything if you work long enough and hard enough at it. And, if you shoot a video that shows what eventually completed the task, it's not showing real world use. Honestly, one of the toughest knives I've ever used was an issued Pilot's Survival Knife. Mass produced by the lowest bidder yet hell for strong. Not elegant or pretty just a tool that does the jobs it was designed to do in a very workman-like manner. I know fellows that still use issued K-bars that they carried thru some of the worst stuff that can be thrown at a combat troop. |
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I wish all of the bitching about Strider would go away. Thats ALL the Strider VS another knife brand threads become. Now to the point of why I came here
I looked at both of the knives you've picked and I decided to go with the Strider. To me it feels better in my hand and Ive beat the hell out of both of my Striders. I carry a SMF everyday and have used it to do some pretty stupid stuff when I had no other tools at my disposal and it keeps on going strong. Looks like shit now but still works great. I do not care about the owners history but about using a product that I will not break within the first month or two of owning. |
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I wish all of the bitching about Strider would go away. Thats ALL the Strider VS another knife brand threads become. Now to the point of why I came here I looked at both of the knives you've picked and I decided to go with the Strider. To me it feels better in my hand and Ive beat the hell out of both of my Striders. I carry a SMF everyday and have used it to do some pretty stupid stuff when I had no other tools at my disposal and it keeps on going strong. Looks like shit now but still works great. I do not care about the owners history but about using a product that I will not break within the first month or two of owning. View Quote Why? Some people have morals when purchasing, some don't. It doesn't mean no one should know about it. Gather facts and vote with your dollar. |
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I wish all of the bitching about Strider would go away. Thats ALL the Strider VS another knife brand threads become. Now to the point of why I came here I looked at both of the knives you've picked and I decided to go with the Strider. To me it feels better in my hand and Ive beat the hell out of both of my Striders. I carry a SMF everyday and have used it to do some pretty stupid stuff when I had no other tools at my disposal and it keeps on going strong. Looks like shit now but still works great. I do not care about the owners history but about using a product that I will not break within the first month or two of owning. Why? Some people have morals when purchasing, some don't. It doesn't mean no one should know about it. Gather facts and vote with your dollar. It also doesn't mean that every thread should be doomed to be hopelessly sidetracked with arguements over it. |
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I wish all of the bitching about Strider would go away. Thats ALL the Strider VS another knife brand threads become. Now to the point of why I came here I looked at both of the knives you've picked and I decided to go with the Strider. To me it feels better in my hand and Ive beat the hell out of both of my Striders. I carry a SMF everyday and have used it to do some pretty stupid stuff when I had no other tools at my disposal and it keeps on going strong. Looks like shit now but still works great. I do not care about the owners history but about using a product that I will not break within the first month or two of owning. Why? Some people have morals when purchasing, some don't. It doesn't mean no one should know about it. Gather facts and vote with your dollar. It also doesn't mean that every thread should be doomed to be hopelessly sidetracked with arguements over it. Well, I think all sidetracking was done before the post I quoted. Anyways, saying Strider is a violent felon and has been charged officially with stolen valor for faking his career is not an argument, it's a fact. I get your point though and the OP obviously took Burger's past into account, so I'll just leave it as it is. |
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Hey guys,
I went with the chris knife. Honestly being new into knives the whole stolen valor thing did play a role in my decision. I appreciate all the help and information. Thanks |
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Yup. I have met both of them and their knowledge of knife making is good in my book. If you are referring to all the other stuff that has been said all over the forums, I have no knowledge related to that and this is not GD in this part of the forum. Lets keep it civil so OP's thread does not get locked. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Both are great quality knives from great knife makers. If I had to choose, I would go with the Strider. Mick and Dwayne are good people. I like this one. http://www.monkeyedge.com/Strider-Knives-Fixed-BT-w-Spine-Serrations-Cord-p/sk1047.htm Did you seriously just call them good people? Yup. I have met both of them and their knowledge of knife making is good in my book. If you are referring to all the other stuff that has been said all over the forums, I have no knowledge related to that and this is not GD in this part of the forum. Lets keep it civil so OP's thread does not get locked. never me them but I concur wit thw above as far as hearsay. I have only been fully amazed by 2 blades 1 a strider tanto I used in 2003 before the owner got back from R&R leave the other is the japanese typ99 bayonet I own: it as made in 36 both blades have amazing balance heft and symmetry both hold an edge very well and as silly as this sounds feel like weapons in the hand not a club wrench, hammer , or big kitchen knife like so many fixed blades seem to. |
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id think twice about buying a chris reeve knife watch this ---> chris reeve green beret knife destruction i wouldnt buy either mick " strider" is a pos and chris reeve knives are garbage save your money for a busse if you need a high end blade like that View Quote knifetests.com is whack. It's like crashing your car into a wall to see how much damage it can take and still run. |
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