I read the link, but still didn't see why you shitcanned the Hinderer knives. Was it just about the USN forums response? I've been there a few times but stopped when it was apparent that it was run by the manufacturers, not real people. I can surely understand not paying a cent for a Strider. The blades may be good, but the man is a prick, felon, a liar, dishonorable discharged USA vet and a stain on the planet. I quit going to the site due to the over the top egos and attitudes of the members. I sure wouldn't mind having either a CRK or Hinderer knife, but I just cannot see what either does better than a good Spyderco or Zero Tolerance or Ridder Benchmade. Guess you do get to say " check out the brand" though. Can you be more specific as to what pissed you off enough to get rid of the knives, or was it just the shit the USN members had to say? I will say, I wish I could afford either of those two knives.