In our Aiki-jujutsu class, we have done some interesting drills that really illistrate to you how, even when you are familliar with or know a knife will be deployed, you will be totally surprised by it. We would give out a few knives, then mix up the groups. You and your training partner could have no knives, one of you could have one, or you both could. We'd hide them in our Gi's and then bring them out when on the ground. really illistrates that you don't want to be on the ground for very long. When we'd train with batons, even against two knives, as it was said earlier, "Reach wins every time." It's scary to come in on a guy that knows how to use a baton, even if you know how to use a knife. I carry two knives. One, a SOG neck knife that opens beer bottles and so much more, and two, a 4" CRKT M16 in my back pocket where my wallet used to go. Go ahead, tell me you want my wallet. Here in Wa I think 4" is the legal limit. I think the little neck knife would be the good go to knife in a scrap on the ground. good retention, and unexpected. just my two cents.
jim