I have two of their cans on order, as well as their WAR upper receiver for one of my ARs. I think they build nice cans for a competitive price. I met them at a local suppressor shoot and they were good people. I commented on how small their apex micro .22 can was and asked how much of a trade off it was with suppression. Phil said to shoot it and see. He pulled out a demo can, threaded it onto a MP22 and said to try it out. I left with ordering one as well as placing an order for an integral MPX conversion (waiting on form 3's for what seems like forever). I think that smaller companies like Innovative have good products, but it's hard for people to justify going with them over a larger brand like silencerco without having tried their products in person. Having the opportunity to do so certainly does sell the product a lot easier.