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Posted: 10/14/2013 6:35:32 PM EDT
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Silencerco Sparrow SS and SWR Spectre II (or Warlock II in aluminum) are the top .22 cans right now, mainly because of how easy they are to clean.
Since I believe the features making them so much easier are patented, other than mo bettah quieter I don't see much in the way of improvements. EDIT: I took this for another forum yesterday, but it shows the difference between a Sparrow SS, Liberty Kodiak TL and Liberty Mystic. 
Those clamshells are amazing. Zero tools needed to take apart. A stiff wire brush, Hoppes #9 and a quarter in vice grips is all I use to clean them. The core gets hit with a 30 caliber bore brush to knock off the crud but I don't keep it like new. |
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Posted: 10/14/2013 6:47:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Thanks for the reply.
I am open to any brand. I mentioned aac because I have had past experience with them. I think I looked at the PRODIGY |
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Posted: 10/14/2013 6:57:49 PM EDT
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Any of the Liberty cans, the SS Sparrow are all GOOD Suppressors. The Liberty offerings have great tone, very little FRP and are pretty good on the blowback. The Sparrow is SUPER easy to take apart and clean and has a pretty noticeable FRP.
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Posted: 10/14/2013 7:00:52 PM EDT
[#4]
SS Sparrow and SWR Spectre II are pretty much the best goto .22 cans around here.
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Posted: 10/15/2013 11:09:28 AM EDT
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No love for the AAC Element II? I have one sitting in ATF purgatory.
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Posted: 10/15/2013 11:22:25 AM EDT
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No love for the AAC Element II? I have one sitting in ATF purgatory. Don't worry, you'll be happy with it's performance, just don't expect to clean it as easy as a SS Sparrow or SWR Spectre II. |
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Posted: 10/15/2013 11:49:45 AM EDT
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Yeah...what performance gains can really be made at this point? As said above, the SWR, Liberty, and Silencerco offerings are all quite good and interchangeable. I have the SS Sparrow myself, and I can't see ever needing another .22 suppressor. It's already dead quiet for the most part.
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Posted: 10/15/2013 11:57:04 AM EDT
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The YHM Stinger just came out and looks to be very similar in principle to the CTA design in the Spectre/Warlock. I imagine it should perform very well.
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Posted: 10/15/2013 1:49:59 PM EDT
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Don't worry, you'll be happy with it's performance, just don't expect to clean it as easy as a SS Sparrow or SWR Spectre II. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No love for the AAC Element II? I have one sitting in ATF purgatory. Don't worry, you'll be happy with it's performance, just don't expect to clean it as easy as a SS Sparrow or SWR Spectre II. Just hit it with the dip. 
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Posted: 10/15/2013 1:57:48 PM EDT
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I hear the Ryder is coming out soon.....
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Posted: 10/15/2013 5:40:28 PM EDT
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The YHM Stinger just came out and looks to be very similar in principle to the CTA design in the Spectre/Warlock. I imagine it should perform very well. I saw that too. It is very close in length, weight, and cost to the Spectre II, but lacks the versatility in calibers found with the Spectre. I'm sure it will do well, but I would go Spectre II again if given the option. |
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Posted: 10/15/2013 5:44:31 PM EDT
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I hear the Ryder is coming out soon..... Hey, that shit ain't funny, I gave a well known dealer(at the time) my cash and let him hold it hostage for two years until nothing was said about it this year at Shot Show, then the dealer was kind enough to let me apply that money to a suppressor that was actually manufactured and on the shelf. Lesson learned, albeit a hard lesson. 
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Posted: 10/15/2013 5:58:27 PM EDT
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Hey, that shit ain't funny, I gave a well known dealer(at the time) my cash and let him hold it hostage for two years until nothing was said about it this year at Shot Show, then the dealer was kind enough to let me apply that money to a suppressor that was actually manufactured and on the shelf. Lesson learned, albeit a hard lesson. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I hear the Ryder is coming out soon..... Hey, that shit ain't funny, I gave a well known dealer(at the time) my cash and let him hold it hostage for two years until nothing was said about it this year at Shot Show, then the dealer was kind enough to let me apply that money to a suppressor that was actually manufactured and on the shelf. Lesson learned, albeit a hard lesson. Probably took that long to learn how to disassemble and reassemble it |
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Posted: 10/16/2013 6:10:16 PM EDT
[#14]
I have the Warlock II and enjoy it. Very quiet and easy to clean.
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Posted: 10/16/2013 6:20:03 PM EDT
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What's the deal with aac' s prodigy can?
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Posted: 10/16/2013 6:53:06 PM EDT
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I have a Prodigy with the Gen 3 upgraded core. I have it mounted to a CZ Kadet. Combo work perfectly. If buying a Prodigy, The disassembly tool is a MUST. Can is very lite and functions great. Wanted a SS sparrow and it wasn't in stock at the time. Dealer had the Prodigy in stock.
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Posted: 10/16/2013 6:58:00 PM EDT
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I have a Prodigy with the Gen 3 upgraded core. I have it mounted to a CZ Kadet. Combo work perfectly. If buying a Prodigy, The disassembly tool is a MUST. Can is very lite and functions great. Wanted a SS sparrow and it wasn't in stock at the time. Dealer had the Prodigy in stock. Love my Prodigy but if you don't have the tool I would hate it. AAC should include the dis assembly tool with the can. They do with the Element 2 IIRC. |
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Posted: 10/16/2013 7:36:23 PM EDT
[#18]
Interesting. One would think that tool would come with the can.
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Posted: 10/17/2013 6:04:55 AM EDT
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I have a SS sparrow and love it. I want a seconded rim fire can so going to buy a warlock II next.
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Posted: 10/17/2013 6:41:11 AM EDT
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Why go with something new and unproven? The warlock, specter and sparrow are all awesome and with the warlock starting at like >$250 I don't see why anyone would want anything else.
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Posted: 10/17/2013 6:57:42 AM EDT
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Why go with something new and unproven? The warlock, specter and sparrow are all awesome and with the warlock starting at like >$250 I don't see why anyone would want anything else. I think it's always a good idea to keep an open mind. Healthy competition drives innovation and the more manufacturers that support the business, the better. The new YHM Stinger looks like a great can and is priced between the Spectre and Sparrow, thinking seriously about picking one up and I already have a Sparrow and two Spectre II's..... |
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Posted: 10/17/2013 7:03:07 AM EDT
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Sure - find a nice brand new can on the market and in 12 months when your stamp comes back it will no longer be new!
  
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Posted: 10/17/2013 7:19:55 AM EDT
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Can't wait till my SS Sparrow gets out of jail!
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Posted: 10/17/2013 8:15:45 AM EDT
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Why go with something new and unproven? The warlock, specter and sparrow are all awesome and with the warlock starting at like >$250 I don't see why anyone would want anything else. This. OP is asking about new, then going back to old & busted. |
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Posted: 10/17/2013 3:16:56 PM EDT
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No love for the AAC Element II? I have one sitting in ATF purgatory. I have one in jail also. |
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Posted: 10/17/2013 5:52:34 PM EDT
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I have one in jail also. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No love for the AAC Element II? I have one sitting in ATF purgatory. I have one in jail also. Me too.
For 10 months now. |
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Posted: 10/17/2013 5:58:35 PM EDT
[#27]
Sparrow ss shooter here, love it
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Posted: 10/17/2013 6:49:48 PM EDT
[#28]
Whatever happened to that talk of the Surefire .22 suppressor?
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Posted: 10/17/2013 7:00:25 PM EDT
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I saw that too. It is very close in length, weight, and cost to the Spectre II, but lacks the versatility in calibers found with the Spectre. I'm sure it will do well, but I would go Spectre II again if given the option. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The YHM Stinger just came out and looks to be very similar in principle to the CTA design in the Spectre/Warlock. I imagine it should perform very well. I saw that too. It is very close in length, weight, and cost to the Spectre II, but lacks the versatility in calibers found with the Spectre. I'm sure it will do well, but I would go Spectre II again if given the option. I've shot neither and tend to agree that the Spectre is the better buy... but it's close enough that I'd buy the YHM first if it was in stock. |
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Posted: 10/17/2013 7:32:30 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/17/2013 9:08:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryHow can they possibly claim "patent pending split tube technology" when I'm 99.9% sure thats a patented silencerco feature? |
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Posted: 10/17/2013 10:49:40 PM EDT
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How can they possibly claim "patent pending split tube technology" when I'm 99.9% sure thats a patented silencerco feature? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Looks to be a split tube, not two halves. |
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Posted: 10/18/2013 2:54:38 AM EDT
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Looks to be a split tube, not two halves. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Looks to be a split tube, not two halves. Seems like it would be pretty difficult to remove the "split tube" from the outer tube once dirty... there appears to be no lip or overlap where the two halves come together. |
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Posted: 10/18/2013 3:40:05 AM EDT
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Next up, spiral cut. Maybe baffles in a slinky in a tube,
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Posted: 10/18/2013 5:32:03 PM EDT
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Whatever happened to that talk of the Surefire .22 suppressor? http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee382/Kudu22/P22_insides_3.jpg Just posted on their Facebook tonight, says they're in production as we speak. 
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Posted: 10/18/2013 5:54:30 PM EDT
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What's the specs on the surefire can?
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Posted: 10/18/2013 7:25:31 PM EDT
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Just posted on their Facebook tonight, says they're in production as we speak. http://imageshack.us/a/img818/607/7yhr.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Whatever happened to that talk of the Surefire .22 suppressor? http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee382/Kudu22/P22_insides_3.jpg Just posted on their Facebook tonight, says they're in production as we speak. http://imageshack.us/a/img818/607/7yhr.jpg Wow, I remember shooting this way back in 2011 at Shot. I'll believe it when I see it....just like every other Surefire flashlight. Maybe 2016.
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Posted: 10/18/2013 7:30:27 PM EDT
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They said this was the 22-A pictured, I would guess it's an all aluminum version. The picture posted earlier in the thread was the 22-S, looks like it's all stainless. I haven't seen any advertised sound testing. My Google-Fu might not be as strong as others.
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Posted: 10/18/2013 8:49:31 PM EDT
[#39]
Give Liberty a call and talk to them and ask if they have something new in .22LR in the works?
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Posted: 10/18/2013 9:10:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I've shot neither and tend to agree that the Spectre is the better buy... but it's close enough that I'd buy the YHM first if it was in stock. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: The YHM Stinger just came out and looks to be very similar in principle to the CTA design in the Spectre/Warlock. I imagine it should perform very well. I saw that too. It is very close in length, weight, and cost to the Spectre II, but lacks the versatility in calibers found with the Spectre. I'm sure it will do well, but I would go Spectre II again if given the option. I've shot neither and tend to agree that the Spectre is the better buy... but it's close enough that I'd buy the YHM first if it was in stock. I dunno - to me the baffles look more like the caged-K design of the Gem-tech Alpine:  where the skirt slides into the extension of the plate on the next baffle. IMHO, as an Alpine owner, the design isn't quite as good as the Spectre II. Although the stack comes out of the tube easily enough, debris still goes through the port and ends up on the underside of the skirt where it builds up and wedges against the skirt; this makes pulling the baffles apart difficult if you don't clean it on a frequent basis. |
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Posted: 10/18/2013 9:14:21 PM EDT
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I've shot neither and tend to agree that the Spectre is the better buy... but it's close enough that I'd buy the YHM first if it was in stock. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The YHM Stinger just came out and looks to be very similar in principle to the CTA design in the Spectre/Warlock. I imagine it should perform very well. I saw that too. It is very close in length, weight, and cost to the Spectre II, but lacks the versatility in calibers found with the Spectre. I'm sure it will do well, but I would go Spectre II again if given the option. I've shot neither and tend to agree that the Spectre is the better buy... but it's close enough that I'd buy the YHM first if it was in stock. Looks like YHM just licensed the baffle design from Silencerco. Wonder what it sounds like. Either way, I still think the Spectre II is the best looking .22 out there. JMHO |
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Posted: 10/18/2013 10:24:37 PM EDT
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dont know about anything new coming out, but you cant go wrong w/ either:
Silencerco Sparrow SS SWR Spectre II both allow for multiple calibers |
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Posted: 10/20/2013 5:41:54 PM EDT
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What's the deal with aac' s prodigy can? I have a GEN 2 with the gen 3 core upgrade and I love it on my 16" 10/22 with CCI subsonics. It is okay (hearing safe) on pistols. Pros: Lightweight, monocore, excellent on rifles. Cons: Aluminum, cost, hard to disassemble. ETA: I bought a tool from "st33v0" on Silencertalk. He started making them himself because when AAC wouldn't. http://www.bellresources.org/portal/index.php/products/ |
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Posted: 10/20/2013 7:26:42 PM EDT
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I have a GEN 2 with the gen 3 core upgrade and I love it on my 16" 10/22 with CCI subsonics. It is okay (hearing safe) on pistols. Pros: Lightweight, monocore, excellent on rifles. Cons: Aluminum, cost, hard to disassemble. ETA: I bought a tool from "st33v0" on Silencertalk. He started making them himself because when AAC wouldn't. http://www.bellresources.org/portal/index.php/products/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the deal with aac' s prodigy can? I have a GEN 2 with the gen 3 core upgrade and I love it on my 16" 10/22 with CCI subsonics. It is okay (hearing safe) on pistols. Pros: Lightweight, monocore, excellent on rifles. Cons: Aluminum, cost, hard to disassemble. ETA: I bought a tool from "st33v0" on Silencertalk. He started making them himself because when AAC wouldn't. http://www.bellresources.org/portal/index.php/products/ Thanks |
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Posted: 10/27/2013 6:41:26 AM EDT
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Gemtech just announced their new GM-22. It's on their website.
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