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The can is getting a little more character I see!
I am a little surprised that the break has as much wear as it does with such a low round count but I wouldn't worry about it. the SBR looks good like always. See you at the range! Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Short barrels like that do foul the mounts a lot more than longer barrels. That build up should brush off.
Nice range report. Thanks for sharing. Mark |
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About how many rounds do you have through that suppressor? I'm curious since you're seeing wear in the blast baffle.
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Quoted: You sure that isnt just baked on carbon buildup? That's what it is. |
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You sure that isnt just baked on carbon buildup? That's what it is. Yep. |
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Thanks for the write up. How do you like the ACOG on a 10.5" gun? I am thinking about putting a TA31 on mine. I am still waiting on my stamp, so I have some time to decide. I'm also waiting on an M4-2000 to be transfered. That is going to get a Breakout.
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About how many rounds do you have through that suppressor? I'm curious since you're seeing wear in the blast baffle. It has about 800 rounds so far. All of it on a 10.5" barrel. I took a picture at 500 and I'll try to take another now. |
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You sure that isnt just baked on carbon buildup? I dont think its carbon. I scrubbed it with a bore brush with solvent and all it did was expose the craters a litle more. I'll post some better pictures tonight with better lighting. |
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Thanks for the write up. How do you like the ACOG on a 10.5" gun? I am thinking about putting a TA31 on mine. I am still waiting on my stamp, so I have some time to decide. I'm also waiting on an M4-2000 to be transfered. That is going to get a Breakout. Jeremy The ACOG works really well. But honestly the little barrel doesn't have the accuracy past 200 yards to really use the ACOG to its full potential. I still prefer the TA31F over the EOtech for most target practice. |
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Quoted: Quoted: You sure that isnt just baked on carbon buildup? I dont think its carbon. I scrubbed it with a bore brush with solvent and all it did was expose the craters a litle more. I'll post some better pictures tonight with better lighting. Well that's weird then, I have the exact same brake and it gets super nasty when shooting with the can on but it'll clean right up with a little elbow grease applied to it. Anxious to see some additional photos. |
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I also have a similar setup and have came to the SAME conclusion...
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About how many rounds do you have through that suppressor? I'm curious since you're seeing wear in the blast baffle. It has about 800 rounds so far. All of it on a 10.5" barrel. I took a picture at 500 and I'll try to take another now. After 800 rds I'm surprised you see any wear at all. I've heard of the same brand suppressor with over 20,000 rds through it with little wear. It was used on MGs and SBRs. Inconel is suppose to be very hard stuff to wear out. |
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Thanks for the write up. How do you like the ACOG on a 10.5" gun? I am thinking about putting a TA31 on mine. I am still waiting on my stamp, so I have some time to decide. I'm also waiting on an M4-2000 to be transfered. That is going to get a Breakout. Jeremy The ACOG works really well. But honestly the little barrel doesn't have the accuracy past 200 yards to really use the ACOG to its full potential. I still prefer the TA31F over the EOtech for most target practice. How is it for close up stuff? Like 50 yrds and less. Jeremy |
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After 800 rds I'm surprised you see any wear at all. I've heard of the same brand suppressor with over 20,000 rds through it with little wear. It was used on MGs and SBRs. Inconel is suppose to be very hard stuff to wear out. I posted a picture in this thread about the blast baffle at 500 rounds. This suppressor has mainly been used on my 10.5". http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=6&f=20&t=308305 |
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How is it for close up stuff? Like 50 yrds and less. Jeremy For under 50 yards it is ok. Really close targets around 25 yards and closer its almost too much scope. |
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what was your rate of fire for your shooting sessions? because obvioulsy high temps will increase wear rate.
Jeremy |
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That's interesting. It sure does look like erosion since it doesn't appear to be built up around the hole but I hope for your sake that it's just carbon. All of the carbon on my G5 mounts and brakes come off with a wire brush. I use the cheap .223 brushes to get at that crap from the side since fitting a brush in there is impossible. The shorter bristles are stiffer too.
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what was your rate of fire for your shooting sessions? because obvioulsy high temps will increase wear rate. Jeremy I was taking it easy, shooting 5 rounds and then checking the target. Probably averaging 20-30 rounds a minute. I'm just betting the accelerated wear was because it is a 10" barrel. |
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I dont use a brake but I have an M4-1000 with the older M4-2000 A2 mount, and Im using it on a 10.3" bbl and I am having no corrosion like you at all.
Are you sure you arent using corrosive ammo? Have you took a pic or a file and tried to scratch that stuff out, it kinda looks like carbon build-up.............but it also does look like its eating away at it also......cant figure it out. Anyways, this isnt the first time that AAC used bad materials, so send in the brake and they will get you a new one shortly.................hopefully. |
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I dont use a brake but I have an M4-1000 with the older M4-2000 A2 mount, and Im using it on a 10.3" bbl and I am having no corrosion like you at all. Are you sure you arent using corrosive ammo? Have you took a pic or a file and tried to scratch that stuff out, it kinda looks like carbon build-up.............but it also does look like its eating away at it also......cant figure it out. Anyways, this isnt the first time that AAC used bad materials, so send in the brake and they will get you a new one shortly.................hopefully. I scratched at it with a dental pic and it doesn't chip off, it looks like its eating away around the exit holes. No corrosive ammo period through my SBRs or suppressors. I have been exclusively shooting either Q3131 or XM193 through them. Possibly the unburnt powder is acting like a sandblaster when it hits the brake? But I'll keep an eye on it and see what happens over the next 1k rounds or so. I'm not worried about getting a replacement if needed, AAC has been very helpful in the past. |
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Its definitely blasting or eroding the brake. Being that it is on a 10.5" I guess I should have expected that. I cleaned it up with a bore brush and this was the best I could get it. If anybody else has an AAC brake could you post a pic and the specs? (Bbl length, round count, ect.) http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4141815.jpg http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4141816.jpg http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4141817.jpg http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg76/gi57/M4-2000/P4141818.jpg Thats nuts!!!! I have the break for my 10.5" but haven't installed it yet. This makes me want to go throw it on and do a few mag dumps and see what it looks like. For $150, it shouldn't look like that after only 800 rounds |
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I ahve the brake on my 10.5 but only have about 200 rounds through it so far.. I really like it but will have to look and see how it is holding up..
That is the reason I bought the brake is so it would act as a disposable blast baffle for my can. I would rather have to replace the Brake than the can.. |
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I ahve the brake on my 10.5 but only have about 200 rounds through it so far.. I really like it but will have to look and see how it is holding up.. That is the reason I bought the brake is so it would act as a disposable blast baffle for my can. I would rather have to replace the Brake than the can. That's my thoughts exactly. Sort of what Ops-Inc does with their mounts. If I eat the brake up so bad it doesn't work anymore I'll just replace it. If my suppressor gets fried inside I'm out at least another $200. If you can, take a pic of what your brake chambers look like. |
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Thats nuts!!!! I have the break for my 10.5" but haven't installed it yet. This makes me want to go throw it on and do a few mag dumps and see what it looks like. For $150, it shouldn't look like that after only 800 rounds Like Skeeters65 said, it is better to blast away at the brake chambers than to erode your blast baffle. I'll keep taking pictures after every couple hundred rounds to track the progression of the erosion. |
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Thats nuts!!!! I have the break for my 10.5" but haven't installed it yet. This makes me want to go throw it on and do a few mag dumps and see what it looks like. For $150, it shouldn't look like that after only 800 rounds Like Skeeters65 said, it is better to blast away at the brake chambers than to erode your blast baffle. I'll keep taking pictures after every couple hundred rounds to track the progression of the erosion. I agree 100% I did the same as you guys got the break as a protectant of the can (mine is still sitting on some examiners desk :( But, I didnt think that it would look that bad after only 800 rounds. You might shoot Mike Mers an email showing him and ask if thats normal. I mean, that few of rounds, the breaks will eventually add up to the price of a new can!!! |
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I looked at my brake this morning.
It doesnt have the amount of whatever it is as the poics you posted. But again it only has 200 rounds through it.. But I can tell it is starting to do the same thing. |
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I looked at my brake this morning. It doesnt have the amount of whatever it is as the poics you posted. But again it only has 200 rounds through it.. But I can tell it is starting to do the same thing. Wow, thats interesting. I will take pics after install and keep track of round count, I am shooting Brown Bear 62gr. I will post some pics once I have some rounds down the tube. I will try and get it on before 3 gun this weekend. |
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Excellent range report/pics!
Your pics show how just how brutal the 10.5" guns are and how well the brake protects your blast baffle! I'm a big fan of running the brake on SBR guns, so that it can act as a "pre-blast baffle" and help protect your expensive can from premature blast baffle wear by taking the majority of the abuse (and when it's in REALLY bad shape, you can swap the brake out quickly and relatively inexpensively). Would you mind if I shared your pics on another forum? For comparison - here's one of our brakes that sees heavy use one a 12.5" Noveske (notice how much less wear there is?). Two extra inches makes a world of difference (and since I know some one would post it otherwise, I'll beat ya to it... "that's what she said" ). http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l69/armorgod/brake.jpg |
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This is why I am waiting until there is a brake or Brakeout in 18T to build my 10.5 AR15 SBR.
I am building a 300 Whisper now so not like the SBR tax stamp was a waste. I was planning on just using a 308 Blackout on the 300 Whisper as it's not like there is hardly any recoil. Any thoughts on if a brake on it would be worth it to shield the baffle or is it a non issue on the lower pressures? |
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