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Posted: 11/3/2001 5:49:28 AM EDT
We are working to get ELCAN scopes available through AR15.com, and would like to get an idea of the interest you guys and girls would have in buying them. These are top-notch scopes, and I would love to make them available so let's hear what kind of interest there is so I can finalize a deal if there is enough interest!
11/6/01- See the top of page 2 for details... |
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I was wondering how this was going JLA. Glad to hear it is coming together. I think it will be a great partnership for AR15.com.
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I've been wanting one but money is kinda tight right now.
What kinda price are you talking about and how soon? |
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Hey! I'm interested...oh waitaminute!!! I bought two!
Striker is this the same guy that supplied my Elcans? I'm VERY VERY happy with the purchase. |
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Elcan's are phenomenal scopes.
I would be interested if you have one with the Gen 4 .223 base, but with the .308 Base, I would be REALLY interested. I thought they were a little heavy (but very solid) on my FNC, and I want to try them on my FAL's. |
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If this lifts off, I can only recommand them wholeheartly. Already have a 5.56mm calibrated gen4 Elcan sitting on my 20" AR.
Have some pics in my albums(check profile). And a review of the sight on my homepage members.ams.chello.nl/b.kuiper/new_page_2.htm The manuals section contains both civilian/LEO instructions as well as Canadian military leaflets. There are problems DL'ing the other manuals but these work. |
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I would definitely be interested. For those of us who already have (at lreats) one, please consider sourcing the latest (Gen.4) mounts separately.
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I would be interested in this. Especially if we were able to get both .223 and .308 models.
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Will there be something special... or price break, or something?
No offense... but most of the merchandise run through the site has been a little on the high side. Other than the LEGP, which was a GREAT deal. The knives, Gallatti cases, and range bags I considered all were available for 20-30% cheaper elsewhere.. of course, without the AR15.com signage. To some, getting that name embroidered is worth the extra dough. It wasn't to me. What kind of deal will this be? Some sort of power group purchase, or just a fair price, with AR15.com engraving? Not meaning to sound negative, just wondering. |
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Depending on the $$$, I would be interested. I have an AAR-10A4 that needs optics.
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Yes Waverunner,it is. I'm glad to hear you are happy with the scope's despite that moron quoting you the price in Canadian dollarsBTW he was severely beaten with a wet noodle for his indiscretion. I never did hear from NYShooter or Ronin45. |
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I 2nd that! |
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Interested to see what's offered, and at what price. I'll spring for it depending.
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If the price is good, I'd take a .308. Shoot, it was worth me comin' out of lurk mode for. Oh, make sure CCs will be accepted, and the likelyhood of participation goes up.
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I was going to quote the wrong Canadian price(Even FALARAK would have fainted and bought 5!) I was originally given but since I don't feel like starting a mad riot.... |
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Here are the Minimum Advertised Prices that ELCAN allows anyone to sell these scopes, they will be our prices through AR15.com (with a minimum 10 ordered):
ELCAN 3.4x (.223 calibration) $699 ELCAN 3.4x (.308 calibration) $719 ELCAN 3.4x XM145 (.308 calibration) $1189 ELCAN 6x HIMAG (.223 calibration) $1197 ELCAN 6x HIMAG (.308 calibration) $1217 Unless otherwise specified, pricing will expire on December 31, 2001. I have been informed that there will likely be a price increase at that time, so get your orders in now!!! "Designed to withstand a drop of 1.5 meters (5 ft.) onto concrete while attached to an 8 kg (17.6 lb.) weapon, as well as being certified waterproof to 10 metres for 2 hours, the ELCAN is the most robust sight in it's class. In addition, the ELCAN optics come from the same production line that grinds Leica, Panavision, and IMAX lenses; as well as sattelite imaging systems. Most users find that the exceptional clarity and light gathering ability of the lenses allow the sight to be used effectively in extreme low-light situations. This is of course augmented by the tritium-lit reticle which glows a light green in near dark conditions. These factors make this sight extremely desireable to tactical users. The ELCAN now also benefits from a newly-designed GEN4 mount assembly." |
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What does the XM145 model add??? |
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Here is the info on the XM145 and the 6X Himag.
Regarding the XM145: This sight was designed for, and purchased by, the United States Army for use on M240 and M249 Machine Guns. It differs from the standard unit in the following ways: -Instead of using a beta light, the center of reticle is illuminated by a L.E.D. This of course requires a battery. There is a knob on the left side of the scope to adjust reticle brightness. As it was designed for the US Army, that knob requires the hand strength of a rodeo cowboy to turn it. -The standard unit has all ballistic compensation in the mount, where the XM145 has a ranging and ballistic compensating reticle. -Instead of using the wingnuts to tighten the unit to the weapon, the XM145 uses the US Army Torque Knob. -The front of the unit is fitted with a killflash unit. -Although US Army units come equipped with a laser filter, that feature is unavailable to the civilian market. -The XM145 uses floppy rubber lens covers which manually fold up out of the field ov view. The standard ELCAN relies on a nylon scope cover that covers the complete optical tube. The nylon cover is sold separately from the sight. -There are currently VERY few XM145 sights available to the commercial market. Regarding the 6x HiMag unit: -The magnification is nominally 6x as opposed to the 3.4x of the standard ELCAN. -The unit is considerably larger, both in length and in objective lens diameter, than the standard unit. -The HiMag uses the standard mount. -The reticle is the standard picket with horizontal stadia. -No lens covers are currently available. -The major production was for a western European country. A very small number are being made available to the US market. |
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What a buy that would be eh!! I think I'm safe in saying that is US dollars. |
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May I make a suggestion...
Contact AGR and see what price you get from them,maybe we could get a deal,they are an authorized dealer of ECLAN products.www.arizonagunrunners.com/Products/Elcan/elcan.htmland if so I'm interested in one with 308 cal bullet drop for my FAL.as long as the price is around $625.00 |
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The place JLA got the deal from is the same place that supplies all the offical Elcan retailers. I'd be surprised if we do better. |
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Stiriker, I'm only trying to help check below AGR is an offical Elcan retailer.www.armament.com/elc_dist.htm |
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Sorry to come off sounding sarcastic PROTEUS_X3..posting after work isn't a good idea. We are getting the scopes from the same supplier as Arizona gunrunner. But you never know..we could do better.Time to go to bed I think. |
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Woo-hoo! I've been thinking of a Hi-Mag Elcan.
Do you have a .308 HiMag in 10X, or are all the HiMags 6X?? -Bill -San Mateo, CA |
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