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OH, USA
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Posted: 9/9/2018 9:35:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Old_Painless]
For those interested, it appears that Bren 2 is shipping to distributors. There are a few on Gunbroker and the prices are reasonable. Who else is looking forward this?
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2020 12:33:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 29212: Im planning on doing the same thing. Is there a suppressor that works well with both 5.56 and 762x39? Someone at the range told me that deadair does. Is this correct? Does Sure fire have such a thing? Also, does the warcomp help keep the muzzle rise down helping stay on target? How does it compare to the SOLGW NOX? My Sandman S works well on both of those calibers. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2020 2:23:13 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 29212]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSU: My Sandman S works well on both of those calibers. Do you use the SOLGW NoX Flash hider with it on both of your calibers or the standard deadair fh? Im going to go the Sandman S route also and in mean time need to pin weld Muzzle device. Both my 556 and x39 are 1/2x 28 thread pitch. Is there a solgw deadair fh suppressor mount for x39 with 1/2 x 28? |
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Posted: 7/11/2020 10:20:57 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKSU: I have the Bren bayonet and the inside diameter is 7/8” using my tape measure. Thanks for the info. That should work. Need to measure the Warcomp when I get home. |
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Posted: 7/11/2020 10:24:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TURRICAN]
[#4]
Here’s the 14” with HBI handguard and Warcomp pinned and welded. I would have timed it different but the hole for the pin was pre drilled and I wanted it at the bottom. Measures from bolt face 16.25”.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2020 10:28:52 PM EDT
[#5]
Very nice, I like it! Now if CZ can just get some more of the 922r kits in stock. Earl
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TURRICAN: Here’s the 14” with HBI handguard and Warcomp pinned and welded. I would have timed it different but the hole for the pin was pre drilled and I wanted it at the bottom. Measures from bolt face 16.25”. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49009/73FF1EA8-13ED-48E5-BE9B-91C827025F10_jpe-1499786.JPG |
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Posted: 7/11/2020 10:46:11 PM EDT
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Yeah now I’m thinking about selling my SCAR and getting a 762x39 pistol and do the same thing when they get those kits back in stock.
This Bren 2 is almost a full pound lighter than my SCAR 16. The Bren 2 carbine is heavier so I’m going to pass on the carbine version. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 7/11/2020 11:07:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 29212: Do you use the SOLGW NoX Flash hider with it on both of your calibers or the standard deadair fh? Im going to go the Sandman S route also and in mean time need to pin weld Muzzle device. Both my 556 and x39 are 1/2x 28 thread pitch. Is there a solgw deadair fh suppressor mount for x39 with 1/2 x 28? I use the Area 419 Hellfire mounts for my Sandman cans. I have a Sandman L also. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2020 5:46:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TURRICAN: Here’s the 14” with HBI handguard and Warcomp pinned and welded. I would have timed it different but the hole for the pin was pre drilled and I wanted it at the bottom. Measures from bolt face 16.25”. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49009/73FF1EA8-13ED-48E5-BE9B-91C827025F10_jpe-1499786.JPG I have an 8" - I am having a really really hard time deciding between the carbine 16, and getting a second in 14" for my "rifle length" one |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2020 11:51:44 AM EDT
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My rationalization probably makes no sense to most people but I'm the only one that it matters so it works for me...the 14" 5.56mm has the bayonet lug and thats another "evil feature" that the Pelosi's of the country think I shouldn't have, so that's reason enough to get it. Hell I'm even going to spend $300 for the darn bayo. It makes for a really nice looking knife and Lord knows I've spent that much on plenty of my knives. I just have to make sure that the muzzle ring on the 805 bayo will go over a warcomp.
Earl Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: I have an 8" - I am having a really really hard time deciding between the carbine 16, and getting a second in 14" for my "rifle length" one |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2020 12:57:20 PM EDT
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if CZ wasn't slower than.... whatever on getting in parts, barrel kits, etc......
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Posted: 7/12/2020 2:29:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By EarlB: I just have to make sure that the muzzle ring on the 805 bayo will go over a warcomp. Earl Looks like it’s not going to work unless you wanted to ream out the bayonet ring a small amount (which I am considering). The section where the prongs are appears to be small enough but the back part where the holes are is definitely bigger than 7/8” Found this online: The outside diameter at the widest point is .987" so standard gas block sizes would not be able to slip over. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/12/2020 3:27:42 PM EDT
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Hmm, like you said I could either get the muzzle ring reamed out a bit - or look for a different extended hider/brake that it will fit over. Earl
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Posted: 7/12/2020 3:36:40 PM EDT
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If the ring lands on the first couple inches of the Warcomp it should be OK. It’s just that last 1/2” that looks too big.
There’s always the BE Meyers flash hider that’s plenty long enough. They are discontinued so people are charging a lot for them but I’ve heard people say they are the best flash hider ever made. Don’t know If it’s true. Only a couple vendors seem to have any left. BE Meyers |
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Posted: 7/13/2020 4:14:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Johnson184]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TURRICAN: Here’s the 14” with HBI handguard and Warcomp pinned and welded. I would have timed it different but the hole for the pin was pre drilled and I wanted it at the bottom. Measures from bolt face 16.25”. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49009/73FF1EA8-13ED-48E5-BE9B-91C827025F10_jpe-1499786.JPG Wow, thanks for sharing that photo. That really does look perfect. I think I'm going to give up on them ever releasing FDE versions and try to hunt down a 14" pistol. Any chance you've tried shooting it suppressed with a Surefire can? How much gas blowback do you get? I assume no issues with overgassing due to the adjustable gas block? |
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USA
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Posted: 7/13/2020 11:13:39 AM EDT
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I see that all the listings for the Bren 2 S models have been removed. There was atleast 10 companys advertising 50+ available. I guess its possible they sold out that fast but most likely that the didnt actually have these to sell.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/13/2020 1:51:05 PM EDT
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Sorry for being that person who comes into a 50 page thread and asks a question that's assuredly been answered..... But just got an 8" model and looking for a light mounting solution. Thinking about the Magpul M-LOK cantilever rail with a TLR RM1 on the right side and a pressure pad on either the top rail or left side. Anyone done something like this?
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Posted: 7/13/2020 2:51:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnson184: Wow, thanks for sharing that photo. That really does look perfect. I think I'm going to give up on them ever releasing FDE versions and try to hunt down a 14" pistol. Any chance you've tried shooting it suppressed with a Surefire can? How much gas blowback do you get? I assume no issues with overgassing due to the adjustable gas block? I don’t have any rifle caliber cans. I guess if I get one now it will have to be a Surefire. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 7/13/2020 3:26:55 PM EDT
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Bam.
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Posted: 7/14/2020 12:42:13 AM EDT
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Hey I think I recognize that rig from the Facebook group!
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OK, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2020 5:46:07 AM EDT
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Picked up my bren 2 Ms sunday
 
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CO, USA
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Posted: 7/14/2020 9:39:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TURRICAN: Hey I think I recognize that rig from the Facebook group! Identity theft is not a joke Jim. 
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Posted: 7/14/2020 10:32:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TURRICAN: Looks like it's not going to work unless you wanted to ream out the bayonet ring a small amount (which I am considering). The section where the prongs are appears to be small enough but the back part where the holes are is definitely bigger than 7/8" Found this online: The outside diameter at the widest point is .987" so standard gas block sizes would not be able to slip over. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TURRICAN: Originally Posted By EarlB: I just have to make sure that the muzzle ring on the 805 bayo will go over a warcomp. Earl Looks like it's not going to work unless you wanted to ream out the bayonet ring a small amount (which I am considering). The section where the prongs are appears to be small enough but the back part where the holes are is definitely bigger than 7/8" Found this online: The outside diameter at the widest point is .987" so standard gas block sizes would not be able to slip over. Can you measure the vented diameter on the warcomp? The bayo ring measures ~.905 Just curious as that is generally the area where the bayo ring would rest.  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 6:15:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TURRICAN]
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Yes will do as soon as I get home. I think the majority of the flash hider will fit that ID dimension on the bayonet. The section with the round holes I don’t think will but I will get some better measurements tonight.
Since you have the bayonet, How far is it from the back of the bayonet where it engages the lug to the ring? I will be able to tell where it will hit the Warcomp that way |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 9:05:27 PM EDT
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Sorry these are some funky old with a weird dial. Hopefully they are still accurate.
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Posted: 7/14/2020 9:42:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: tifosi]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TURRICAN: Sorry these are some funky old with a weird dial. Hopefully they are still accurate. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49009/AC326348-4921-4729-B6E0-0BEA626AB50D_jpe-1504195.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49009/66C1FF9C-6651-43BB-813C-8F37C81172F7_jpe-1504197.JPG The distance from the muzzle ring to the engagement clasp is 4.6" So on your barrel, measure from the back edge of the two engagement "lugs" on the bayonet mount, forward to the muzzle device. None the less, if I'm reading your calipers right, that portion of the Warcomp is also right at .905 That would be a very iffy fit, depending on the tolerances that each part was made to. BUT, the bayo may fit with just a bit of polishing on the inside of the ring. Let me know if that length works out, 'cause obviously it's not gonna fit over that next larger diameter on the warcomp. |
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Posted: 7/14/2020 10:21:55 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/15/2020 7:37:55 AM EDT
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OK, I don't think that's going to work. That 4.6 would be from the back of the locking lugs on the mount,
so the ring would be closer to the shoulder of the muzzle threads it look like, and it sure isn't going to clear the larger diameter protrusion on the FH anyway. I guess if someone really wants to mount the bayonet, they'll need to look at something else besides the warcomp to get to 16".  Attached File |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 5:18:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: EarlB]
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I'm watching this with checkbook in hand for when you guys identify what will work to make a 14" reach 16" and accomodate the bayonet! I'll be sure to aquire one of those muzzle devices since apparently the war comp won't work. Maybe the BE Meyers that Turrican linked to a few posts above? Anyone try a bayonet with it?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 7/15/2020 5:49:36 PM EDT
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Just ordered a VG6 Epsilon to go on my new MS Carbine ... I got the CAGE adapter too to help with side blast.
Can't wait to finish this bad boy!!! |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 11:54:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TURRICAN: Here's the 14" with HBI handguard and Warcomp pinned and welded. I would have timed it different but the hole for the pin was pre drilled and I wanted it at the bottom. Measures from bolt face 16.25". https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49009/92685400-A1A5-44C0-A85E-79B94683114B_jpe-1502289.JPG What's it weigh in that config? |
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Posted: 7/16/2020 11:21:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TURRICAN]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mrozowjj: What's it weigh in that config?  Attached FileLooks like just a hair over 6 -1/2 pounds. Very well balanced. After handling this I picked up a friends Bren 2 Carbine and that thing felt WAY heavier and most of it out in front just like an old Bushmaster ACR with the M4 profile barrel. I wish I would have thought to weigh it. I will try and get the carbine weight next time we go to the range. |
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Posted: 7/17/2020 4:10:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TURRICAN: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49009/1A3E8CA1-528E-464D-BFF3-8E3F228E6E8E_jpe-1507098.JPG Looks like just a hair over 6 -1/2 pounds. Very well balanced. After handling this I picked up a friends Bren 2 Carbine and that thing felt WAY heavier and most of it out in front just like an old Bushmaster ACR with the M4 profile barrel. I wish I would have thought to weigh it. I will try and get the carbine weight next time we go to the range. Thank you this is exactly what I was hoping for. According to CZ themselves the carbine is 7.3lbs with no sights or optics so about 0.8lbs heavier. I bet if you were to add those sights to the carbine it'd be closer to a full pound heavier. And as you pointed out weight is one thing but balance is another; with that heavier profile barrel I'm not surprised you say the carbine feels heavier out front. Confirms my decision to do what you did and grab the pistol, P/W something on it and slap on the stock kit. Now I just play the waiting game waiting for the pistol and stock kit to actually be in stock somewhere. |
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Posted: 7/17/2020 6:36:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TURRICAN]
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if you ever picked up an ACR and shouldered it, that is exactly what the Bren 2 Carbine reminded me of. All the weight is out front and your arm would get tired if you were holding on a target for any length of time. The pistol feels totally different and it comes with sights. It also looks better IMO.
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Posted: 7/18/2020 4:34:35 PM EDT
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I want a 762 Bren 2 pistol. Is there any model to get over another, barrel length, etc?
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Posted: 7/18/2020 4:39:18 PM EDT
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I would get a Bren 2s if you can find one. There are a couple listed on gunbroker right now in 762x39. You will probably have to get a 2 MS though. I want an 11” in 762x39. Makes a great little SBR
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Posted: 7/18/2020 5:39:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CFII]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TURRICAN: I would get a Bren 2s if you can find one. There are a couple listed on gunbroker right now in 762x39. You will probably have to get a 2 MS though. I want an 11” in 762x39. Makes a great little SBR Yea, I think you are right. I kinda like the upper on the 2S. I watched Michaco's videos on the differences. I guess I could read this whole 50 page thread 
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Posted: 7/18/2020 6:02:04 PM EDT
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There are a couple 2s in 7.62 right now on Bidtracer but sold out everywhere else and probably no more coming in. I’d buy one right now if I had the cash but my toy fund is beyond depleted.. I’m going to sell my SCAR since those are going for crazy money right now and hopefully I can find a 2s. I don’t even care what barrel length at this point
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Posted: 7/18/2020 6:26:16 PM EDT
[#38]
Its part number 91381 for the 2s right?
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Posted: 7/18/2020 7:03:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TURRICAN]
[#39]
Yes that’s it. It looks like there is actually 4 of them listed on gunbroker right now and not ridiculous pricing considering how rare they are. The real millitary receiver with the lightening cuts looks so much better IMO and you don’t have to deal with that ugly MS handguard. Thankfully HB Industries makes a replacement handguard for the MS. I think the 2s with 11” barrel is the best looking version of all the different Bren 2 options.
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Posted: 7/18/2020 7:23:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TURRICAN: Here’s the 14” with HBI handguard and Warcomp pinned and welded. I would have timed it different but the hole for the pin was pre drilled and I wanted it at the bottom. Measures from bolt face 16.25”. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/49009/92685400-A1A5-44C0-A85E-79B94683114B_jpe-1502289.JPG I see you have good taste  Attached File |
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Posted: 7/18/2020 10:13:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TURRICAN]
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https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299270/20200528_211527_jpg-1509732.JPG
And with that post above I think you just made history with the first documented photo of a full custom Bren 2 MS Carbine! Looks great too! Is that a carbine handguard with a cut and dimpled barrel? What is the final weight on that? That’s got to be the coolest looking Bren 2 that I’ve seen. I guess that proves the Carbine can be awesome after all. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2020 6:03:40 AM EDT
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Best folding brace option for Bren 2, 5.56, 11" black pistol. I want something that is functional, but also nice looking. All replies appreciated.
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Posted: 7/19/2020 5:30:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BisonWorld: I see you have good taste https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299270/20200528_211527_jpg-1509732.JPG Did you have a gunsmith dimple the factory barrel or swap barrels entirely? |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2020 6:18:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lordboogie]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flyer: Best folding brace option for Bren 2, 5.56, 11" black pistol. I want something that is functional, but also nice looking. All replies appreciated. I would say ACR tailhook/strongarm setup from Dan Haga right now, but it's very expensive. There's also someone working on Strongarm and Tailhook setup on the Bren 2 stock body (would like to see a few others do this personally). |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/19/2020 9:31:56 PM EDT
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I wonder how much velocity loss the bren sees between 14/16".
I do like the longer handguard on the carbine, but as some have said it's heavy. I wonder if I should get a 14 to go with my 8 instead of the carbine. it DOES come with sights, but not a stock, and I'd have to stamp the thing or get a brace. Ugh. Stamp I dont really mind though, not on this gun. |
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Posted: 7/19/2020 10:34:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TURRICAN: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/299270/20200528_211527_jpg-1509732.JPG And with that post above I think you just made history with the first documented photo of a full custom Bren 2 MS Carbine! Looks great too! Is that a carbine handguard with a cut and dimpled barrel? What is the final weight on that? That’s got to be the coolest looking Bren 2 that I’ve seen. I guess that proves the Carbine can be awesome after all. Oh I'm sure I've gone over it earlier in this thread
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Posted: 7/20/2020 1:16:33 AM EDT
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I guess I’m going to have to go digging for it
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Posted: 7/20/2020 5:09:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cryo_tech: I wonder how much velocity loss the bren sees between 14/16". I do like the longer handguard on the carbine, but as some have said it's heavy. I wonder if I should get a 14 to go with my 8 instead of the carbine. it DOES come with sights, but not a stock, and I'd have to stamp the thing or get a brace. Ugh. Stamp I dont really mind though, not on this gun. http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/223rifle.html They only did 3 calibers and it's a loss of 158fps, 175fps and 65fps. across them. Seems to be a the similar reduction from going form a 18" to a 16" barrel. Seems to be highly depend on the load in question. |
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Posted: 7/20/2020 6:18:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryUgh. Stamp I dont really mind though, not on this gun. Form 1 processing time has been right around a month lately |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 7/20/2020 6:22:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cryo_tech]
[#50]
I wonder how much accuracy loss it will cause by swapping barrels when (if ever?) the kits come out.
I could just swap between 8 and 14. But the pace at which CZ moves, makes the DMV seem speedy |
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