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Posted: 3/7/2010 5:04:10 AM EDT
I just placed an order for a new Colt LE6920 and was surprised to see that it didn't come with a hardcase. Yet you can buy a Bushy for 1/2 the cost and they give you a case. Don't get me wrong, I don't need any more cases laying around if I am going to transport the thing I will use a softsided case, unless going by air. I buy most of my firearms used, so is this something that many of the manufacturers are doing now? It seems to me if you pay $1300 for a new rifle it should come with a hard case. More of a observation and curious as to what y'all think about it. I would rather have higher quality over a plastic case so don't get me wrong on that!!
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Part of peoples distorted thinking today. Pile a few trinkets with something to make you feel like you got a bunch of free shit to make you feel good like you got some kind of a great deal. As stated, you are paying for it one way or another. Even if you payed 2k for a high end gun and expect a 100-150 case with it, you would still pay for it.
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Often times it seems that inferior made products dress up their pigs with add on crap and accessories. For the intelligent consumer, it seems like the company is making a feeble and cheesy attempt to justify the price on their inferior product to make it more appealing. That being said, most consumers are not particularly informed or intelligent, so they see the "bling" and are all over it.
For the smart consumer, a quality made product does not need curb feelers thrown in for free to sell. A high end set of quality kitchen knives that will last a lifetime does not need a free bottle of "Sham WoW". |
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I have never bought a new colt and it come with a hard case. Just the trusty ole cardboard box.
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The bushmaster case is a waste of a case and does pretty much nothing more than pollute the earth. You say you don't need any other cheap cases laying around, then don't complain about it. Simple. Pretty sure Bushmaster charges you for the case in their price for the gun. Most companies out there give you a gun and a box. That way you can buy whatever case you want.
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There are a few other top regarded manufacturers that do not include a case. With the money testing in R&D, I would be lead to believe a $5.00 -10.00 case may seem irrelavent to the actual quality of the rifle..
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It is what it is. When they start having trouble selling them at their price, maybe they'll have to start offering cases. Don't hold your breath.
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Trust me I'm not really complaining just thought it was kind of funny. I am looking at getting a couple Voodoo cases, what are some other cases y'all have had good luck with? This is not going to be for airline travel, just back and forth to hunting and shooting locations.
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Some of my favorite companies ship their products in those beautiful cardboard boxes (Colt, BCM, Noveske)
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I've owned three factory new Colt ARs.
None have ever come with a hard case. Just the box. Save the box. The blue label on the side helps with resale value should you ever want to sell it. |
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1/2 the price of a Colt? Where do you get NIB Bushmasters for 550?
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The bushmaster case is a piece of crap anyway. Since Colt usually ships its biggest orders to .mil and .gov, there is no reason to add the extra cost of a cheap piece of crap case to its private distributors.
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Bushmaster gives you a nice case to compensate for the POS inside it.
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i'm fixing to call noveske and bitch at them for sending me those junky-ass rifles without a case––why ,,,i could have got a bushmaster and got a case!!!!!! what a bunch of turds!!!! thanks for the heads up,, i'm gonna get my priorties straight!!!! buncha damn hill-billies!!!!and,,, my junky-ass colts didn't have a case either,, gonna bitch them out too, after noveske.––-shit––-i could've got something with a case, for what i paid for those beaters...
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1/2 the price of a Colt? Where do you get NIB Bushmasters for 550? You didn't get the memo? Every rifle is half the price of and just as good as Colt. |
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Quoted: 1/2 the price of a Colt? Where do you get NIB Bushmasters for 550? This along with the fact every hard case I've ever received with any new firearm was basically a pos regardless of manufacturer. |
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Didn't we have a thread about this some time back? The thread was basically trashing the hell out of Colt for sending the rifles (6920 and 6940) without a case..the member was so irate that he was even gonna return it because of this simple reason.. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Didn't we have a thread about this some time back? The thread was basically trashing the hell out of Colt for not sending the rifles (6920 and 6940) without a case..the member was so irate that he was even gonna return it because of this simple reason.. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Yeah, that's the one! |
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Didn't we have a thread about this some time back? The thread was basically trashing the hell out of Colt for not sending the rifles (6920 and 6940) without a case..the member was so irate that he was even gonna return it because of this simple reason.. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile all right,, let me fess up,,, been indulging in too much in some thing with a born-on date––-i'm glad colt didn't send me a hard-case with my two rifles,,'cause they are too much trouble to chunk in the dipsy-dumpster––- WTH are you gonna do with a hard-case anyway, 'sides clogging up the underside of your bed?????––- i'm not really gonna call anybody and bitch at them––i'm gonna call them and thank them. |
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got a case with my dpms, was a nice thought but it was junk. it was hard to open and was more trouble than it was worth, i do think all guns should come with some basic cleaning supplies like a cleaning rod
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The bushmaster case is a waste of a case and does pretty much nothing more than pollute the earth. You say you don't need any other cheap cases laying around, then don't complain about it. Simple. Pretty sure Bushmaster charges you for the case in their price for the gun. Most companies out there give you a gun and a box. That way you can buy whatever case you want. That is because BM sucks so whatever they can do to make people think they are getting a good deal. |
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the more you pay for an AR the worse the box is that it comes in. i don't mind the cardboard, i'm just going to throw it away (like i do the cheap cases). except Daniel Defense, the last two that i've had in came in a very nice hard case. not a Storm case but not that cheap junk shit that most AR manufacturers ship with. what pisses me off is Remington and the damn styrofoam! they could at least put the gun in a plastic bag before they throw it in that shit. i've never unpacked a Remington that didn't have a bad spot in the finish because of that cheap shit. what's so hard about a bag and some bubble wrap? |
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I just placed an order for a new Colt LE6920 and was surprised to see that it didn't come with a hardcase. Yet you can buy a Bushy for 1/2 the cost and they give you a case. Don't get me wrong, I don't need any more cases laying around if I am going to transport the thing I will use a softsided case, unless going by air. I buy most of my firearms used, so is this something that many of the manufacturers are doing now? It seems to me if you pay $1300 for a new rifle it should come with a hard case. More of a observation and curious as to what y'all think about it. I would rather have higher quality over a plastic case so don't get me wrong on that!! Thanks NCH I was like you. A little surprised. Both of my Colts (6920, 6921) came in a cardboard box. Both work like a champ. |
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Didn't we have a thread about this some time back? Yes, that was me. |
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1/2 the price of a Colt? Where do you get NIB Bushmasters for 550? This along with the fact every hard case I've ever received with any new firearm was basically a pos regardless of manufacturer. True, the first AR I ever ordered online was a Bushmaster. When UPS dropped it off at my FFL's house the barrel was sticking out of the box. It had punched right though the case and the brown box, good thing he lives in a nice neighborhood. Anyone walking by would have seen a package with an A2 style flash hider and 3" of barrel sticking out. |
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Every free case I ever got with a new gun was crap. My 2 Armalites came with Promax protector hard cases. There cheap at best. Better than a box though.
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Honestly, most of the gun cases I see with new guns, especially rifles, are never used again. Two cases for example are the hard case that came with a new DPMS LR-308, which has no optics or sights on it, and no room in the case for the optic or sight once added. So the case is good for shipping and only shipping, after that it's worthless.
Same thing with the RRA case that came with a new RRA AR-15. Case fits the upper and lower, when separated, but has no room for the rifle with sights added, and requires the rifle to be broken in two for transport. So as far as rifles are concerned, I'd rather they save me some money and just include the cardboard box so I can go and buy something else to put the rifle in for transport. |
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I just placed an order for a new Colt LE6920 and was surprised to see that it didn't come with a hardcase. Yet you can buy a Bushy for 1/2 the cost and they give you a case. Don't get me wrong, I don't need any more cases laying around if I am going to transport the thing I will use a softsided case, unless going by air. I buy most of my firearms used, so is this something that many of the manufacturers are doing now? It seems to me if you pay $1300 for a new rifle it should come with a hard case. More of a observation and curious as to what y'all think about it. I would rather have higher quality over a plastic case so don't get me wrong on that!! Thanks NCH You just dropped some good wedge on your Colt...go BUY a decent case for it and quit whining! WTF...over?? |
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Since the choices really seem to be either a cardboard box, or a flimsy case that will end up in the trash next to the box after it breaks on it's second use, I'd rather just have the cardboard box. Either give me a solid case that I can at least use to fly with, or a simple box. A case is NOT better than a box when I'm going to have to find a way to make it fit into my trashcan after the hinges or latches break and it's just a useless hunk of plastic. Save me the $10 for the generic case and maybe put in a chamber brush or a decent manual instead of a slightly modified copy of the old military manual.
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If you want a hard case, buy a hardcase. If you want a rifle, buy a rifle. You shouldn't expect freebies with every purchase.
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the one KAC shipped with my E3's were actually half way decent..not Pelcan quality but decent and sturdy..
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i'm fixing to call noveske and bitch at them for sending me those junky-ass rifles without a case––why ,,,i could have got a bushmaster and got a case!!!!!! what a bunch of turds!!!! thanks for the heads up,, i'm gonna get my priorties straight!!!! buncha damn hill-billies!!!!and,,, my junky-ass colts didn't have a case either,, gonna bitch them out too, after noveske.––-shit––-i could've got something with a case, for what i paid for those beaters... Put me on that petition t! |
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My Barrett M82A1 came with a really nice hard case. For what you pay for the 82A1, it should come with a hooker of your choice. And another rifle. |
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Quoted: got a case with my dpms, was a nice thought but it was junk. it was hard to open and was more trouble than it was worth, i do think all guns should come with some basic cleaning supplies like a cleaning rod I think the gun owner should come with basic maintenance knowledge and supplies. |
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I got a Colt Delta Elite many years ago came in an aluminum case. S&W Performance center M&P 15 came with soft side carrying case.
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yeah i throw away the crappy bushy cases! and I like my bushys.....with BCM uppers
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1/2 the price of a Colt? Where do you get NIB Bushmasters for 550? Forget that, I want to know where you're getting Colts NIB for $1100. |
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1/2 the price of a Colt? Where do you get NIB Bushmasters for 550? Forget that, I want to know where you're getting Colts NIB for $1100. www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=21&t=735807 www.impactguns.com/store/COLT-LE6920BF.html www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=21&t=740672 |
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Some of my favorite companies ship their products in those beautiful cardboard boxes (Colt, BCM, Noveske) Same here. I was suprised when I bought my 1st Les Baer and it came in a box. I'm not suprised anymore |
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I don't know that I've ever bought a long gun that came with a hard case. Handguns, sure, rifle and shotgun never.
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If you can afford a $1300 rifle then you can buy a $20 POS Dosko Sport case.
I actually use the cases, but only so my firearms don't mar each other if I loosely through them in the trunk. On the other hand a case for a handgun is a must for me at the time of purchase. Besides most of the handgun cases that are sold with handguns are actually pretty decent. |
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Save me the $10 for the generic case and maybe put in a chamber brush or a decent manual instead of a slightly modified copy of the old military manual. Right on. Or ditch the case and include an extra magazine. |
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About the only company that makes a vaguely decent weapons case for their weapons is probably Benelli. Their sporting shotguns and the Vinci both have relatively well-designed cases, so long as you're willing to transport your shotguns in a broken-down state.
Ruger's case for the SR-556 isn't too bad...probably costs them about $20 apiece from China, but it's relatively useful at least. Go buy an $8,000 Accuracy International, and it'll come to you in a brown cardboard box with cut-out dense foam. |
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1/2 the price of a Colt? Where do you get NIB Bushmasters for 550? Forget that, I want to know where you're getting Colts NIB for $1100. www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=21&t=735807 www.impactguns.com/store/COLT-LE6920BF.html www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=7&f=21&t=740672 Not bad, can't touch them for under $1300 around here. If I were in the market for another rifle, I'd look into it further. |
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i'm fixing to call noveske and bitch at them for sending me those junky-ass rifles without a case––why ,,,i could have got a bushmaster and got a case!!!!!! what a bunch of turds!!!! thanks for the heads up,, i'm gonna get my priorties straight!!!! buncha damn hill-billies!!!!and,,, my junky-ass colts didn't have a case either,, gonna bitch them out too, after noveske.––-shit––-i could've got something with a case, for what i paid for those beaters... Put me on that petition t! That post is funny as hell. LOL, lesswill! I don't know - I kind of like those POS cases (I got them with Olympic Arms and Daniel Defense rifles). I wouldn't exactly call Daniel Defense's case "POS", though. |
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