anyone tryed the new semi-auto m3 grease gun?

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[ARCHIVED THREAD] - anyone tryed the new semi-auto m3 grease gun?

Posted: 5/7/2005 6:25:03 PM EDT

just wondering if anyone has tryed it. thinking of one compared to a semi auto thompson. except for that long barrel

Posted: 5/7/2005 7:57:55 PM EDT

[#1]

Is this the one by Valkyrie Arms?

Posted: 5/8/2005 6:55:44 AM EDT

[#2]

yes, sorry left that out.

Posted: 5/8/2005 9:49:12 AM EDT

[#3]

Yeah, I didn't like the long barrel either.

Posted: 5/8/2005 9:57:14 AM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
Yeah, I didn't like the long barrel either.

SBR it

Posted: 5/8/2005 10:01:31 AM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:
Quoted:
Yeah, I didn't like the long barrel either.

SBR it

I'd have to have it built as a pistol.
Now this on the other hand...
...I'd probably still have to register as a pistol.

Posted: 5/8/2005 5:20:05 PM EDT

[#6]

Those things are kinda pricy aren't they?

Posted: 5/8/2005 6:06:36 PM EDT

[#7]

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Those things are kinda pricy aren't they?

$750 is less than what my .45ACP GG conversion AR is going to cost when all is said and done.

Posted: 5/8/2005 6:32:36 PM EDT

[#8]

I saw one at a local show.........for that much money, it didn't strike me as being worth it.

Posted: 5/9/2005 2:14:13 AM EDT

[#9]

I thought the grease gun was supposed to be easy and real cheap to make?

Posted: 5/9/2005 2:17:31 AM EDT

[#10]

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I thought the grease gun was supposed to be easy and real cheap to make?

It is when you build it out of stampings and it fires full auto from an open bolt.
This is a semi auto reproduction with a machined receiver that fires from a closed bolt.

Posted: 5/10/2005 5:26:36 PM EDT

[#11]

I saw one at the gun show that was at pontiac stadium and they wanted 10 grand for it(thats right $10,000). It looked terrible, the welds looked like a beginner did them. I just can't believe someone would pay that much for such a thing

Posted: 5/10/2005 6:19:26 PM EDT

[#12]

Quoted:
I saw one at the gun show that was at pontiac stadium and they wanted 10 grand for it(thats right $10,000). It looked terrible, the welds looked like a beginner did them. I just can't believe someone would pay that much for such a thing

The M3 SMG as made by Guide Lamp wasn't exactly the pinnacle of the gunmaker's craft.

There's a reason not too many transferables are out there...nobody wanted to bring them home.

Posted: 5/11/2005 11:08:41 AM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I thought the grease gun was supposed to be easy and real cheap to make?

It is when you build it out of stampings and it fires full auto from an open bolt.
This is a semi auto reproduction with a machined receiver that fires from a closed bolt.

And there's certain economies of scale when you're mass producing them by the tens of thousands as opposed to making a few dozen at a time. Time value of money is also a factor; a few dollars went much further in the early 1940's than it does now.

BTW - if the one for $10k was a transferable C&R gun, thats a good buy by today's standards. M3/M3A1 are much more rare than Thompsons and even a transferable non-C&R West Hurley Thompson will run about $12k-14k.

Posted: 5/11/2005 5:13:13 PM EDT

[#14]

I was a tank gunner in Vietnam in 69-70, we traded guns all the time. I picked up a M3 in a deal with a South Vietnamese policeman, they loved Salems, and was not impressed with it at all. It was heavy, the magazines were heavy, the sights were really bad. You cocked it by flipping up the bolt cover which was also the safety, stuck your finger in ia hole in the bolt and pulled it to the rear. Range was very limited. Rate of fire was moderate, was easy to fire but was strictly a point and shoot gun. I kept it about a month and traded it for a shotgun.

rk

Posted: 5/11/2005 8:14:48 PM EDT

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I was a tank gunner in Vietnam in 69-70, we traded guns all the time. I picked up a M3 in a deal with a South Vietnamese policeman, they loved Salems, and was not impressed with it at all. It was heavy, the magazines were heavy, the sights were really bad. You cocked it by flipping up the bolt cover which was also the safety, stuck your finger in ia hole in the bolt and pulled it to the rear. Range was very limited. Rate of fire was moderate, was easy to fire but was strictly a point and shoot gun. I kept it about a month and traded it for a shotgun.

rk

I was buying GG mags at a funshow for my CAV MKII build. My dad said he never shot one, but did pick one up, and it was heavy. I believe it. The mags themselves are heavy enough, and add 30rds of .45ACP. YEESH.

Posted: 5/12/2005 5:12:47 AM EDT

[#16]

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I thought the grease gun was supposed to be easy and real cheap to make?

It was.................. in 1942.

Posted: 5/12/2005 2:24:38 PM EDT

[#17]

I remeber reading somewhere that during WWII thompsons cost the Army right at $200 and M3's were $25. I would imagine that there were metric buttloads more M3's made and bought by the military than Thompsons. I would be surprised if there are not brand new M3's being issued to this day, so I don't think that they would be particularly rare (transferable status is a whole different matter).

Given the rates of inflation and scale of production I would say that the price being charged is kind of high. IT having a Machined reciever and parts kid of turns me off on this replica, the stamped cheapo construction is what gave it the name "Grease Gun" after all.

Posted: 5/12/2005 2:31:12 PM EDT

[#18]

The grease gun was ultra cheap to make and only took about two minutes to produce. I would love to see a more modern version say milled receiver with a brake and better trigger.

Posted: 5/12/2005 7:21:40 PM EDT

[#19]

I fired both the M3 and M3A1 Grease guns in the Army as we carried Two on board our M60A3 MBT's One for the driver and one for the loader. Never saw one fire a full magazine without at least one stoppage. low rate of fire (450RPM) and very crude sights. only way to hit shit is firing a 3 rd burst like a shotgun pattern. Fun range toy if it's on Uncle Sugar's dime, but better fun out there if it's your's. We always joked about grabin the M240 coax MG and a few cans of ammo if we had to bail out of the vehicle. that's how little faith anyone had in the Grease Guns. I would never spent $750 for a semi civilian version with a long ass barrel. and would certainly not waste the time and $200 to SBR it either......

Posted: 5/12/2005 7:42:05 PM EDT

[#20]

I would not mind one of thier Stens, A grease gun would be cool too.

Posted: 5/22/2005 3:44:51 PM EDT

[#21]

when my old unit De-Comm'd i was on the working party assigned cataloging the contents of the armory to be turned in. we found 5 BRAND NEW M3s in the box, with 9mm conversion kits and magazines. taded 1944....this was in 1999

Posted: 5/22/2005 4:26:14 PM EDT

[#22]

Man, it would'a been nice if they could'a "fallen off'a the back'a the truck."

Posted: 5/22/2005 6:36:28 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I saw one at the gun show that was at pontiac stadium and they wanted 10 grand for it(thats right $10,000). It looked terrible, the welds looked like a beginner did them. I just can't believe someone would pay that much for such a thing

The M3 SMG as made by Guide Lamp wasn't exactly the pinnacle of the gunmaker's craft.

There's a reason not too many transferables are out there...nobody wanted to bring them home.

Do you know if GI's still had to pay the $200 tax to register them? I can't imagine a lot of WWII vets having that kind of cash laying around.

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