Pics of FN P-90 In Use (Not for 56k users)

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Pics of FN P-90 In Use (Not for 56k users) (Page 1 of 3)

Posted: 8/24/2004 3:24:23 PM EDT

I created this thread to provide some pictures of the FN 5.7mm P-90 in use with units around the world, for those interested; My first unit will be the US Secret Service, and more of other units later.

EDIT: I can't post the pics now, will have to later.

Posted: 8/24/2004 4:32:38 PM EDT

[#1]

You don't play nice do you?

Had a serious hard on and I see no pics.

DO NOT tease!!!!! It's just wrong!!

Posted: 8/24/2004 5:34:09 PM EDT

[#2]

How much later

Posted: 8/24/2004 6:05:11 PM EDT

[#3]

http://www.imageshack.us/

try these guys...darn easy to use upload and they give you a link to copy and paste and thats it...no muss no fuss or adding syntax

Posted: 8/24/2004 6:08:07 PM EDT

[#4]

Awwww. WHat the..................

Chris

Posted: 8/24/2004 6:38:20 PM EDT

[#5]

I will post more pictures of other units using the P-90 later; I took long on this because i've been busy.

Posted: 8/24/2004 6:48:06 PM EDT

[#6]

Very cool.

I wonder if we'll ever get to see a semi auto version of that we the people can actually own?

Chris

Posted: 8/24/2004 7:16:14 PM EDT

[#7]

Posted: 8/24/2004 7:41:54 PM EDT

[#8]

Are they recruiting, Ill be out a job next september if Im lucky...

Posted: 8/24/2004 7:47:49 PM EDT

[#9]

Thai SF with P-90:

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/7715/01aug03_exvigil1_big.jpg

http://img16.exs.cx/img16/357/157695.jpg

Lower quality pics; in the first picture, you can see that some of the operators on land are carrying suppressed P-90's.

Posted: 8/24/2004 8:02:10 PM EDT

[#10]

Belgian DSU/ESI with P-90:

http://img2.exs.cx/img2/3093/BelgianDSU-2.bmp
http://img2.exs.cx/img2/1386/DSUp90.bmp

The Belgian ESI (now known as DSU) replaced the HK MP5 with the FN P-90 and also use the Five-seveN.

Posted: 8/25/2004 7:16:43 AM EDT

[#11]

Austrian Rangers with P-90:

http://img47.exs.cx/img47/665/alarm_06.jpg

http://img47.exs.cx/img47/4774/sek07_960x685_1082634331.jpg

Posted: 8/25/2004 7:22:48 AM EDT

[#12]

Peruvian SF operators with P-90's in the Lima, Peru incident:

http://img10.exs.cx/img10/4239/p910.jpg

http://img10.exs.cx/img10/8373/9223.jpg

http://img33.exs.cx/img33/766/9184.jpg

The Lima, Peru raid was an outstanding success and the leader of the terrorists was killed with one chest shot through Level III body armor fired from the team leader's suppressed P-90. Here is some more info I found regarding the assault:

I remember reading that the P90 got its first human kill on that little outing- apparently FN were all over them asking how the weapon performed.

I have met some of the people involved in the embassy attack in peru. The most ordinary bunch of people i ever met. They have a close bond to each other ever since that event.

Posted: 8/25/2004 7:36:32 AM EDT

[#13]

Awesome.

Have always been impressed with the design. DmL5, you seem to be a fan as well!

Thanks for the pics!
-LS

Posted: 8/25/2004 8:26:17 AM EDT

[#14]

from the september 6th edition of Shot Gun New
In refrence to the US civvie market

Currently in development is a semi-automatic carbine based on the P90

This is definetly happy news, I'd rather have an civvie FN2000, but I'll take a P90 any day!

Posted: 8/25/2004 9:37:01 AM EDT

[#15]

sweet

Posted: 8/25/2004 10:07:45 AM EDT

[#16]

Quoted:
from the september 6th edition of Shot Gun New
In refrence to the US civvie market
Currently in development is a semi-automatic carbine based on the P90

This is definetly happy news, I'd rather have an civvie FN2000, but I'll take a P90 any day!

I LOVE IT (Yea I'm a SG1 Fan too)

I wonder when they will have more info about it?
I would pre order TWO today!!!!

Posted: 8/25/2004 10:10:56 AM EDT

[#17]

Awesome.

Have always been impressed with the design. DmL5, you seem to be a fan as well!

Thanks for the pics!

Yep; probably the best word to describe the P-90 would innovation. I have no idea how someone could think up such a gun. Somewhere I heard the name of the person that thought up the magazine, but I can't remember it. I've still got plenty of pics left.

Cyprus National Guard with P-90's:

http://img38.exs.cx/img38/8008/337_3.jpg

The Cyprus National Guard purchased 350 P-90's and 250 Five-seveN's in 2000; the Cyprus Army SF use them as well.

Posted: 8/25/2004 10:22:03 AM EDT

[#18]

I want one

Posted: 8/25/2004 11:23:01 AM EDT

[#19]

Great pics. Thanks for posting them!

Posted: 8/25/2004 11:51:54 AM EDT

[#20]

I shot one with the Dutch Army. Pretty neat. Just kind of vibrated during full auto.

Posted: 8/25/2004 12:01:10 PM EDT

[#21]

I shot one with the Dutch Army. Pretty neat. Just kind of vibrated during full auto.

Supposedly the Dutch Army is replacing the Glock 17 with the FN Five-seveN; have you heard anything about this?

US Burbank Police Department with P-90:

http://img64.exs.cx/img64/3702/3_27-28-428-646_20030822135114.jpg

Note that this officer would not be able to fire an MP5 in the position he is in because of the magazine length, but no problem as it is.

Posted: 8/25/2004 12:05:29 PM EDT

[#22]

Olathe, KS SWAT with P-90:

http://img64.exs.cx/img64/9838/3_27-28-430-697_20030911204851.jpg

Many more pics later.

Posted: 8/25/2004 12:10:01 PM EDT

[#23]

French GIGN with FN P-90's:

http://img64.exs.cx/img64/6374/trente0037.jpg

http://img64.exs.cx/img64/4594/trente0067.jpg

http://img64.exs.cx/img64/725/trente0082.jpg

If its good enough for the French GIGN (one of the most elite CT units in the world), its good enough for me; the French GIGN also use the FN Five-seveN.

Posted: 8/25/2004 12:12:30 PM EDT

[#24]

Greek EKAM CT unit with P-90:

http://img64.exs.cx/img64/7944/GreekCTunitP90.jpg

http://img64.exs.cx/img64/5333/CAJBQT93.jpg

Posted: 8/25/2004 12:13:45 PM EDT

[#25]

cool pics.

Posted: 8/25/2004 12:29:52 PM EDT

[#26]

German BKA with P-90:

http://img57.exs.cx/img57/5141/GermanWithP90-2.jpg

http://img57.exs.cx/img57/7105/GermanWithP90-1.jpg

Posted: 8/25/2004 12:35:58 PM EDT

[#27]

Posted: 8/25/2004 12:50:33 PM EDT

[#28]

Posted: 8/25/2004 7:02:53 PM EDT

[#29]

Ok, youve effectively killed my computer with all the pictures, it wont load anything past the pics of the dutch guys. I guess the P90 is pretty effective...

Posted: 8/25/2004 9:05:40 PM EDT

[#30]

awesome pics! thanks alot!

Posted: 8/25/2004 9:07:10 PM EDT

[#31]

After looking up the specs (and converting from mm, argh) it looks like a P90 semi with at least 6'' (6.5'' to be safe) added barrel will meet required overall length and 16'' barrel length

# Caliber: 5.7x28mm SS190
# Weight: 2.54 kg empty; 3 kg loaded with magazine with 50 rounds
# Length: 500 mm = 19.685''
# Barrel length: 263 mm = more than 10''
# Rate of fire: 900 rounds per minute
# Magazine capacity: 50 rounds
# Effective range: 200 meters

Which means it, if im not mistaken, would have an added civvie barrel that is less idiot-looking than the added length on Spechul Wepuns MP5s.

I think this thing has potential... if they keep the price under $1200 and made ammo more readilly available, i think it could be a keeper.

- BUCC_Guy

Posted: 8/25/2004 9:20:18 PM EDT

[#32]

Yes thanks for the photos...

We keep getting closer to the "Star Wars" look.

MT

Posted: 8/26/2004 4:27:02 AM EDT

[#33]

Quoted:
After looking up the specs (and converting from mm, argh) it looks like a P90 semi with at least 6'' (6.5'' to be safe) added barrel will meet required overall length and 16'' barrel length

# Caliber: 5.7x28mm SS190
# Weight: 2.54 kg empty; 3 kg loaded with magazine with 50 rounds
# Length: 500 mm = 19.685''
# Barrel length: 263 mm = more than 10''
# Rate of fire: 900 rounds per minute
# Magazine capacity: 50 rounds
# Effective range: 200 meters

Which means it, if im not mistaken, would have an added civvie barrel that is less idiot-looking than the added length on Spechul Wepuns MP5s.

I think this thing has potential... if they keep the price under $1200 and made ammo more readilly available, i think it could be a keeper.

- BUCC_Guy

That length wouldn't look bad at all.
maybe a perm attached fake suppressor?

Posted: 8/26/2004 9:51:03 AM EDT

[#34]

I'd rather have a quad rail forward barrle shround the a faux suppressor.

Posted: 8/26/2004 10:56:08 AM EDT

[#35]

Quoted:

The US Secret Service are also using the Five-seveN pistol.

No, they're not. Plain and simple. I would check your source or where ever you got that notion from. They issue the P229 in .357sig as their side arm. The only thing they have done so far with the five seven, is look at it.

Posted: 8/26/2004 12:13:34 PM EDT

[#36]

No, they're not. Plain and simple. I would check your source or where ever you got that notion from.

My source is FN, and I doubt they have the guts to blatantly lie about someone using their weapons. What's your source that they aren't using it?

Posted: 8/26/2004 1:16:03 PM EDT

[#37]

P-90

here's one you LEO's can buy for $1,400.

Posted: 8/26/2004 1:19:40 PM EDT

[#38]

For the last pics
the first one belgian navy
2nd. dutch commando
3rd. belgian army MP
4th. belgian navy combat diver
8th. belgian army (test of P90)
10th. belgian army (test)
12th. a Safariland adv.
the last one, belgian combat diver!!

Posted: 8/26/2004 2:23:33 PM EDT

[#39]

Quoted:
No, they're not. Plain and simple. I would check your source or where ever you got that notion from.

My source is FN, and I doubt they have the guts to blatantly lie about someone using their weapons. What's your source that they aren't using it?

Let's just say I got it straight from the horeses mouth. I'm sure they're considering using the pistol, but as of now, it's not operational with them.

Posted: 8/26/2004 2:28:12 PM EDT

[#40]

Our SERT guys use them. The consensus is that they are not impressed with the round or the gun. Some reliability issues. They traded M4s and MP40s, 2:1 for the P90. Bad trade IMO. I do like the full auto capabilities though, no doubt.

I guess if you are pumping 12 rounds in a guy in the blink of an eye, terminal ballistics don't mean squat. No way I'm carrying the FiveSeven pistol though!!!

Posted: 8/26/2004 2:29:39 PM EDT

[#41]

Sweet batch of pics!

Posted: 8/26/2004 3:53:47 PM EDT

[#42]

For those interested, here is a nice P-90 promotional video: www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=471

Its definitely worth a download: shows it pierce 48 layers of kevlar and a CRISAT vest, shows a guy shoot a P-90 in each hand, and shows how the round will not overpenetrate concrete, and much more.

Posted: 8/26/2004 4:01:34 PM EDT

[#43]

Let's just say I got it straight from the horeses mouth. I'm sure they're considering using the pistol, but as of now, it's not operational with them.

I think we're both right; check out this link thoroughly: www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17542&highlight=secret+service+white+house
The agents guarding the WH use the Five-seveN, and the other agents use the Sig like you said.

I guess if you are pumping 12 rounds in a guy in the blink of an eye, terminal ballistics don't mean squat. No way I'm carrying the FiveSeven pistol though!!!

This 5.7mm ballistics issue is a oft-disputed one; here is a thread that gives some good views from both sides of the argument: http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=5&f=4&t=10218

Be sure to read it through.

Posted: 8/26/2004 4:42:48 PM EDT

[#44]

Quoted:
]Let's just say I got it straight from the horeses mouth. I'm sure they're considering using the pistol, but as of now, it's not operational with them.

I think we're both right; check out this link thoroughly: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=17542&highlight=secret+service+white+house
The agents guarding the WH use the Five-seveN, and the other agents use the Sig like you said.

Well, that link didn't really prove anything, acecpt there's more people that are misguided. When I said I got it straight from the hourses mouth, I meant it. If you still want to believe otherwise that's fine. I tried to clear it up.

Posted: 8/26/2004 5:50:13 PM EDT

[#45]

Quoted:

That length wouldn't look bad at all.
maybe a perm attached fake suppressor?

If you look up the specs for whoever makes the silencer for the P90, I forget where I found it, it plus the barrel equals about 16 inches. So make it a fake can and it wouldn't look out of place at all.

Posted: 8/26/2004 6:05:57 PM EDT

[#46]

.

Posted: 8/26/2004 6:47:20 PM EDT

[#47]

Well, that link didn't really prove anything, acecpt there's more people that are misguided. When I said I got it straight from the hourses mouth, I meant it. If you still want to believe otherwise that's fine. I tried to clear it up.

Where did the people in the link hear it? Why would FN lie about it? I'm not accusing you of lying, I think the story behind this is either:

1. Your source was not talking about the USSS as a whole.

or

2. You heard it awhile back, before they adopted it.

Do you have any idea how long ago it might have been that you got it from "the horse's mouth"? Supposedly the P-90 and Five-seveN were adopted in 2003; here is another proof thread: www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6447

Towards the middle of the thread: I have read in a gun magazine that the US Secret Service has acquired the FN Five-SeveN pistol and the FN P90 Tactical recently...

Posted: 8/26/2004 9:09:41 PM EDT

[#48]

Quoted:
Quoted:

That length wouldn't look bad at all.
maybe a perm attached fake suppressor?

If you look up the specs for whoever makes the silencer for the P90, I forget where I found it, it plus the barrel equals about 16 inches. So make it a fake can and it wouldn't look out of place at all.

Ewww... Fake can? Added barrel can't hurt and I'm not much into the "cool" factor.

- BUCC_Guy

Posted: 8/26/2004 9:10:21 PM EDT

[#49]

Quoted:
For the last pics
the first one belgian navy
2nd. dutch commando
3rd. belgian army MP
4th. belgian navy combat diver
8th. belgian army (test of P90)
10th. belgian army (test)
12th. a Safariland adv.
the last one, belgian combat diver!!

This is the most badass first post EVER. Welcome!

- BUCC_Guy

Posted: 8/27/2004 3:41:36 AM EDT

[#50]

Quoted:
Well, that link didn't really prove anything, acecpt there's more people that are misguided. When I said I got it straight from the hourses mouth, I meant it. If you still want to believe otherwise that's fine. I tried to clear it up.

Where did the people in the link hear it? Why would FN lie about it? I'm not accusing you of lying, I think the story behind this is either:

1. Your source was not talking about the USSS as a whole.

or

2. You heard it awhile back, before they adopted it.

Do you have any idea how long ago it might have been that you got it from "the horse's mouth"? Supposedly the P-90 and Five-seveN were adopted in 2003; here is another proof thread: http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6447

Towards the middle of the thread: I have read in a gun magazine that the US Secret Service has acquired the FN Five-SeveN pistol and the FN P90 Tactical recently...

Believe everything you read if you want. My info is current as of yesterday, from the horses mouth. My info comes from real people, not internet threads or magazines.

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