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Posted: 11/30/2002 7:02:54 PM EDT
Where can I get one?
Do they even exist? |
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Ramline
www.ramlinestocks.com/images/ram_garand.jpg DPMS www.shooterstore.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&DID=90&Product_ID=6788&CATID=536 ...But why? Thats almost un-American |
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The "chings" of a thousand Garand clips will haunt you until the day you die if you put that Garand in a synthetic stock!!!
ColtShorty© "I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." |
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Relax, I want one for my Century Garand. I wouldn't think of using synthetic on a GI specimen.
Figured synthetic would hold paint better. |
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...you might get by with one of the laminated stocks out there...but the first time you took a black M1 to the range, the linch mob would run you off...
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I got some nice new rope. |
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Takes what 5 minutes to swap them.
Save undo wear and tear and that original WWII cartouched stock (if this was the situation, but it's not). It's a Century recieved edition anyways. OSA |
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OOOHHH Thats just wrong!
Might as well put a wood stock on a AR. [>(] |
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I know a sherrif's Deputy that got a plastic stock from Brownells. He kept that CMP Garand in the trunk of his squad car.
Saved his walnut from getting banged up. To Him, it was a tool, not a wall hanger or collectors item. |
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You do mean a synthetic stock for an M14/M1A right? Not a M1 Garand...that would be bad!
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No, I meant what I said, He carried a CMP Garand with a plastic stock in the truck of his squadcar. This is a rual county, open country. It looked kinda funny, but it worked well. Later he replaced the M1 Garand with a Dept. Issue Full Auto M14. |
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Put it in plastic, keep the wood at home to keep it safe. First time you accidently bang up a pristine collectible stock you will see what I mean. You can always put the original back on when you want to show it off.
BTW, I just ordered a plastic stock for my inland M1 carbine. I want to save the original WWII wood as it is now. |
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Go to Freds fredsm14stocks.com. You can beater but seviceable wood for $15.00. Includes metal.
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Well I guess this is my post to piss people off. I'm gonna put a synthetic on my Springfield garand. It's a tool guys go out and use them. Wood is for "purty" guns.
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Wood is for "purty" guns?? Guess lots of the main battle rifles are just "purty". Make sure you get on of those multicolor bright looking ones. They look real cute on the M1! |
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I have a Ram-Line synthetic stock on my 7.62 Nato Garand. Matches well with the Vortex flash suppressor and the M5A1 bayonet grips.
Since I bedded the action into the stock, shoots about 1MOA, too. Even in the rain. If anybody should give me any static, I simply ask if they own an M1D. |
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I like the DPMS stock set. It looks close to G.I. contours. It's just what I'm looking for to put on my 7.62mm NATO "Tanker Scout" project.
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From an accuracy standpoint, the synthetic is not affected by temp or humidity changes, and the rifle retains the poa/poi relationship. Of course, I am able to get a better "grip" on a wood stock than a syn.
I look at my firearms as tools and treat them as such. While I don't have a syn stock on my M1, I don't see the problem with it. In fact, after I get my CMP SA M1 back from Fulton Armory (having it reparkerized) I MIGHT just put a syn stock on it! Libertas an Mortis!! |
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I do have an M1D on the way. Should have it in about a week. No scope, however. Anyone know where I can get an original scope? |
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Try here; www.whatacountry.com. They advertise M-84 scopes and mounts. |
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Or maybe lots of the main battle rifles have wooden stocks because wood is the easiest material to work with... |
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Y'all feel the same way about 1903s and A3s? The stock on my 03A3 is pristine.... I love to shoot it, but I don't wanna screw up the stock. I'm ordering an old CMP drill 03A3 with a synthetic stock, and going to put it on my functioning one. I don't think it's that big of a deal. You swap them out in a couple of minutes. I'm all for keeping the USGI stuff on the rifles. I just don't like the idea of beating up the wood.
-Gloftoe |
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I never want to own an M1 without a worn metal finish and dings in the stock. The history speaks to me
Just something about holding a gun that could have been at Iwo Jima, Normandy or Bastogne... |
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Would was used because it was plentiful, easy to turn out, and cheap, not for it's durability. My wife accidentally knocked over my M1 after I loveingly refinished the original stock, keeping all the markings and marred up all the upper handguards and took a chip out of one of them, the lower only got one dimple.
Accident or not, the only thing that kept me from going old testiment on her was the fact that she was my wife. Accidents happen but that was almost to much to bare. If it had sythetic I would not have cared near as much as it would be a piece of plastic. SorryOciffer |
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"That had to hurt" |
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Naw, a sacriledge would be to alter a Gas-Trap, Tool Room, or other historically important M1. Like an M1D, also. The 7.62 Garand is just a garden variety Springfield. Millions made, and I retained all the old parts. Restore it to original in an afternoon, barrel and all. I hope you find what you need to complete your M1D, LarryG. |
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I bought a Blue Sky import Garand (I was told they came from China or Korea) in the 1980s that had a completely shot out barrel (Looked like a smooth bore with lots of pitting) & Had pieces of Hair & Skin stuck where the buttplate & stock meet. I often wondered how that happened! Maybe some marines last ditch before being overrun by the Red Chinese in Korea! I hope he made it out OK. PS: I had Tony Pucci @ Orion7 convert it into a .308 Tanker, It shoots great! |
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The mount is not a rail, it's more of a clamp with a screw that fastens to the mount on the barrel. The clamp goes around the M-84 scope. The link I gave you earlier doesn't have a photo. Try a search under M1D. |
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My Garand:
1942 SA Receiver 1950 SA barrel All other parts fall in the range of 1942-1945 USGI components. Also, it's not a CMP Garand. Original walnut stock was slightly loose fitting and had been to hell and back showing dings scratches and outrageous dents of which all I love and will do whatever it takes to preserve these historical blemishes. Groups with original walnut stock were 4" at +50 yards. Anyone that understands the mechanics of a Garand knows that a tighter fitting stock means better accuracy. http:// " border=0> Synthetic stock fit was tight, and accuracy went to 2" @ +75 yds. http:// " border=0> Very happy with my $68 Ram-Line Synthetic Stock! |
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Pic posts, I forget which way to post them. i'll try again:
Original: http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/1124356.jpg Synthetic: http:// |
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Werew,
wow.... I must admit... it does look quite nice in synthetic stocks! I never thought I'd hear myself say that!! Now, I would like it much better without the checkering. hmmm... the gears grind in my head... I could build a 'beater' on a rack grade, and slap it in a synth stock, to be used for hunting or blasting....... |
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I can't believe I am saying this, but I may have to put the M1D that I am getting into a synthetic since it will be a shooter.
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raf - post pics of the flash hider. I been thinking about getting a CMP receiver, barrelling in 308 and sticking a flash hider on it too.
Wouldn't do it to my Springfield - even though it could probably use a new barrel. |
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The Vortex FH for the Garand looks something like the one on the right, with the addition of a lower, attached cylinder for the gas cyl lock screw. The FH is a direct replacement for the gas cyl lock. www.smithenterprise.com/buy/vortex.asp
Not cheap, but the best seldom is. Numrich sells sells the GI prong-style FH used on the later M1Ds for considerably less. I have both, and prefer the shorter, more effective Vortex. YMMV. BTW, Natchez Shooter's Supply OFTEN sells the Ram-Line stocks for considerable discounts. I STRONGLY advise checking in with them periodically to snag a Ram-Line on sale. IIRC, they go on sale every few months or so. Here's a link to the NSS main catalog, showing the Ram-Line M1 stock at the standard $51.00 price. They often go on sale for considerably less. www.natchezss.com/icat/p/211f.html |
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Larry, Sukebe made a good stab at describing a hard-to-describe item. Suffice it to say that IIRC the thing only accepts 7/8" dia scopes, unless you luck out and manage to get a very rare 1" mount.
You WILL want a cheek piect to offset your head to the left (as opposed to up). The Std GI leather job will do, but is a PITA to install and remove. Removal is useful if you want to use the iron sights. I suggest the removable, customizable cheek piece offered by DS Arms. www.dsarms.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=CR139A&storeid=1&image=itccheekrest.jpg Looks nice on a black synthetic stock, and is instantly removable should you wish to use the irons. |
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Thanks for the comments on my Synth. stocked Garand. As far as the checkering goes, I must admit it is the ONLY thing that I don't like about the Synth. Stock. Bell & Carlson sell a synth stock for the Garand also and it also sports the checkering. It sells for $200.
I have a solution for the checkering, i'm shaving the checkering off flat and putting a textured grip surface similar to McMillan's, a wavy black texture. Going from the loose to a tight fit stock was like acquiring a new rifle altogether. I've only begun to get acquainted with my "new" Garand. When not shooting my Garand for long periods of time(3-4 months), it's old stock is installed and then its stored in a shadow box mounted on a wall above my desk. |
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