I'm going to buy a rifle. Which one is better?

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - I'm going to buy a rifle. Which one is better?

Posted: 6/25/2002 6:58:22 PM EDT

I'm looking to buy a new rifle. American Spirit Arms CAR 16" post-ban or Cavalry Arms. I have an old Colt AR15 SP1 that I don't want to shoot up. How are both companies in making the rifle and customer service? I want to buy locally and to support them. Thanks

Posted: 6/25/2002 7:09:07 PM EDT

[#1]

I have no real experience with any of them but I was always told that ASA were junk and the guys on the board from Cav Arms are pretty cool.

Keving67

Posted: 6/25/2002 7:09:40 PM EDT

[#2]

Why would a Colt get "shot up," when there are Freshly made Parts to drop in and fix any problems that come up???????????

Posted: 6/25/2002 7:18:23 PM EDT

[#3]

Out of those 2, I'd go with Cav Arms.
I'm not a big Colt fan, but I doubt any harm will come to it by shooting it.
They are quality rifles. Are you just wanting to collect it?
I'd also look into Rock River Arms & Bushmaster.

~Enjoy!

Posted: 6/25/2002 7:24:07 PM EDT

[#4]

Your not going to find many fans of ASA on here. Try Rock River, or Bushmaster. If you just have to buy locally for some reason buy Cavalry Arms products. ASA products are crap plain and simple and there is no customer service.
BIll3508

Posted: 6/25/2002 7:43:07 PM EDT

[#5]

just buy a different upper for your SP1...unless you must have another AR

Posted: 6/25/2002 8:03:15 PM EDT

[#6]

Quoted:
I have no real experience with any of them but I was always told that ASA were junk and the guys on the board from Cav Arms are pretty cool.

Keving67

Actually, I have built a few ASA AR rifles and they were all great shooters. However, their customer service is what really sucks. If you ever have a problem they are often abusive and of no help. I would not buy a complete rifle from them, but have no problems with their kits. However, I fix any problems myself and leave them outa it.

Cavarms I hear rocks!

Sgtar15

Posted: 6/25/2002 8:03:18 PM EDT

[#7]

The Cavalry Arms guys are cool. They stand behind their products. I've built rifles from an ASA kit (on a DPMS lower) and Cavalry Arms lowers (on miscellaneous uppers). I haven't had any problems with either. I've never had any problems with ASA myself, but have seen many complaints. I haven't had any problems with Cavalry Arms either, but I'm confident that they'd bend over backwards to help their customers. If you haven't met the Cavalry Arms guys or held one of their rifles, go to the next gun show and check them out.

Posted: 6/25/2002 8:11:04 PM EDT

[#8]

I currently work in Scottsdale,AZ and I had the unpleasant experience of actually walking into ASA and "chatting" with the jerk,er, salesperson that was working there that day. Suffice to say, it's the kind of place I'd recommend to someone that I really didn't like. Though I personally have zero experience with Cav Arms, I've seen a lot of positive comments here about them. I'd buy one of their weapons.

Posted: 6/25/2002 8:19:49 PM EDT

[#9]

Go with the Cav, I have one and soon to have more, great product, great follow up service and no hassle. The guys are friendly and easy to get ahold of by email if you have a problem too.

Posted: 6/25/2002 8:23:16 PM EDT

[#10]

Friendly, not to forget resourceful (borrowed from another post)

Keving67

Posted: 6/25/2002 8:28:44 PM EDT

[#11]

Cav Arms needs the business:

Just kidding--they busted their hump just to get to the BRC and support us. Bought the above after their high-dollar, deluxe, motor home exploded. Had guns pointed at them and didn't shoot back. Then came and gave stuff away to us. Buy from Cav Arms, please.

Posted: 6/25/2002 8:30:38 PM EDT

[#12]

keving67, great minds think alike! hehe

Posted: 6/25/2002 8:32:10 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
keving67, great minds think alike! hehe

They sure do

Keving67

Posted: 6/25/2002 8:32:52 PM EDT

[#14]

I didn't really know the whole story behind the hoopty ride but I can only imagine it is hilarious as hell.

Keving67

Posted: 6/25/2002 8:34:42 PM EDT

[#15]

Gavino what part of Az do you live in?

Oh and I cant give unbiased info here as im part of the Cav Arms Crew.

Posted: 6/25/2002 9:03:00 PM EDT

[#16]

I live in Chandler, Arizona what part of Arizona do you live in. I found a Bushmaster XM15E2S M4 Type Post Ban Carbine for under $900 at two stores in the east valley. Is that a good price?
I want to keep my Colt in good working order and shoot the heck out of the new rifle.

Posted: 6/25/2002 9:13:16 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:
I didn't really know the whole story behind the hoopty ride but I can only imagine it is hilarious as hell.

Keving67

It is probably told in detail in the "CruiseAmerica" thread. The gist of it is they rented a deluxe motor coach from CA and it broke down. When they called for assistance, CA said to just get a taxi and they would refund the rental $. Cav Arms said they couldn't do that as they were a Class III mfr. carrying a load of MG's. CA said to sit tight. They then called the Oklahoma State Police who responded with the equivilant of a SWAT team, guns drawn, apparently assuming the worst. This made for a tense situation while the paperwork was verified. When it was determined our guys were "legit" they were able to buy the above-pictured "cruise wagon" and proceed to the BRC where Garryowen had his first drink of alcohol on Sat. night. There may be more details, but I should be pretty close. All in all, they were great guys, good sports, and THEY BROUGHT NSFJOJO, our pet f*****g monkey, to amuse us.

Posted: 6/25/2002 9:14:34 PM EDT

[#18]

Well I live near Chandler Blvd. and Rural.
What shops did you find the Bushmasters at? If you want the Fake Telestock thats more than likely your best bet. But if you want to build your own I would highley recomend you buy a Cav lower from Shawn and slap your own upper on it. I have 2 ASA uppers one A2 and one flat top. Never had a problem with either. The A2 is on my Cav, and the flattop is on my Bushmaster M4gery.

Posted: 6/25/2002 9:17:41 PM EDT

[#19]

BRC where Garryowen had his first drink of alcohol on Sat. night.

LOL Garryowen, First Drink, I dont think so.

Posted: 6/25/2002 9:22:31 PM EDT

[#20]

Does anyone on these posts work for Cav Arms?

Posted: 6/25/2002 9:24:57 PM EDT

[#21]

Quoted:
Does anyone on these posts work for Cav Arms?

Not full time but yes I do.

Posted: 6/25/2002 9:41:35 PM EDT

[#22]

Why do you ask?

Posted: 6/25/2002 9:49:18 PM EDT

[#23]

i was wondering how much a pre-ban m4 would cost, and you Cav Arms guys seem like you could be a good choice. but i want to do some cross price checks from alot of dealers to see what the best deal is.

thats why i ask

Posted: 6/25/2002 9:56:35 PM EDT

[#24]

I cant be of much help with a Pre-Ban M4. But call the shop and Shawn may be able to track one down for you.

Or are you looking for a PreBan Upper?

Posted: 6/25/2002 9:57:09 PM EDT

[#25]

Quoted:
Quoted:
I didn't really know the whole story behind the hoopty ride but I can only imagine it is hilarious as hell.

Keving67

It is probably told in detail in the "CruiseAmerica" thread. The gist of it is they rented a deluxe motor coach from CA and it broke down. When they called for assistance, CA said to just get a taxi and they would refund the rental $. Cav Arms said they couldn't do that as they were a Class III mfr. carrying a load of MG's. CA said to sit tight. They then called the Oklahoma State Police who responded with the equivilant of a SWAT team, guns drawn, apparently assuming the worst. This made for a tense situation while the paperwork was verified. When it was determined our guys were "legit" they were able to buy the above-pictured "cruise wagon" and proceed to the BRC where Garryowen had his first drink of alcohol on Sat. night. There may be more details, but I should be pretty close. All in all, they were great guys, good sports, and THEY BROUGHT NSFJOJO, our pet f*****g monkey, to amuse us.

Absolutely hilarious!

Keving67