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Posted: 6/8/2002 1:04:01 AM EDT
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For target/precise shooting I like the 20", but its got Ray Vin weights so its like 16 lbs. or so, kind of heavy. For plinking and general fun I like my 16" M4, its light and fast.
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Posted: 6/8/2002 2:19:25 AM EDT
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20"
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Posted: 6/8/2002 3:49:01 AM EDT
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I voted 20". I don't need the 16 because I"m not planning on clearing any buildings. I want a rifle that has some 'reach' to it and the 20 does that better.
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Posted: 6/8/2002 5:14:06 AM EDT
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Didn't vote, cause I've got 'em both, and love 'em both. Actually, I've got an SP1 set up as an XM177E2 clone, w/ an 11 1/2" barrel and a welded on duplicate of the original suppressor, a 20" heavy barrel in the A2 configuration, and am in the middle of building an M4gery w/a 16" barrel. For punching holes in paper, definitely the 20", but for toting in the field, popping tin cans and such, short barrel every time. There's really no problem here----just get, or build, at least one of each
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Posted: 6/8/2002 5:54:41 AM EDT
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I really like my 16" AR carbines (bith of which are shorter than 16", and have fixed muzzle breaks to meet the length limits, 16.6" with a Mini-Y on one, 16.1" with a CavComp on the other).
That being said, a .308 like the FAL I prefer the longer barrel. The velocity difference between a 16: and a standard 21" is quite a bit, and when I handled your DSA at the BRC, it didn't seem to handle any better than my StG-58 with muzzle break (about a 23" OAL). The weight difference wasn't noticable. |
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Posted: 6/8/2002 5:58:33 AM EDT
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For target shooting I like my 20", for plinking I like the carbine. Like someone else already said, get both
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Posted: 6/8/2002 7:12:36 AM EDT
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What's 'ya gonna do with it?
If you're looking for a weapon the 14.5-16" is about the best compromise between handling speed and velocity IMHO. If you're looking for a target rig look at the 24" barrels to wring that last few dozen feet per second from the cartridge. I had some in all sizes ... |
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Posted: 6/8/2002 7:36:56 AM EDT
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Nice collection of logs!!!
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Posted: 6/8/2002 7:56:44 AM EDT
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Ha! I must admit, that's a fine collection of firewood! |
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Posted: 6/8/2002 9:12:04 AM EDT
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If you have one --- 20".
If you have two --- 16" & 24". I voted for the 20" because it is the "rifle". 16" is a "carbine" 'weapon' and 24" is a "target" 'shooter'. Technically, the 20" is called a 'carbine', but in the general scheme of AR's, it's the 'rifle'. |
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Posted: 6/8/2002 11:35:17 AM EDT
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I have both, well 1 is a 14.5" with phantom M4 all Bushmaster and a 20" Colt SP1, I would say my choice would be the carbine over the rifle due to size and weight differance. If I needed to be accurate at long distance I would take along my Remington LTR and throw my carbine over my shoulder for when they get close.
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