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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:08:57 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Got an email stating my order has a 2-4 day lead time...I may have squeaked by  Likewise. Guess it's off to try and find a dovetail mount.  But in all seriousness, for some people these units just make the whole thing more doable. People look at NV cost as the price of the unit...it's really not. Once you're in a helmet, the mounts, an IR device or two for aiming, raising the mounts on your rifles for passive shooting, etc. you're really adding the difference between these units and a filmless unit. That's just the binos...the PVS14 at ~2350 could potentially get you into the game for under 3k with a helmet, used Rhino, and the new micro Steiner unit. TNVC knocked it out of the park in terms of reading the market, and timed it perfectly. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:11:00 PM EDT
[#2]
Got my invoice. Fuck me and my 5 week lead time
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:17:01 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Got my invoice. Fuck me and my 5 week lead time I'll make sure and build you a good unit |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:22:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll make sure and build you a good unit  I'm pretty excited, thanks for offering these at such a great price.
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Posted: 7/3/2020 4:35:24 PM EDT
[#5]
I thought it was a good deal and pulled the trigger on a PVS-14. I was Army until 2000 and used -7s a bunch. I have a couple pair of those today. They are familiar and they work. WP is something I’ve wanted. I have used them in trials and shoots before but did not have a set.
I am excited to see how this set compares! I’m hoping I get a winner! |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 5:15:59 PM EDT
[#6]
Yeah I got the 2 to 4 day email.
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Posted: 7/3/2020 5:19:00 PM EDT
[#7]
I purchased a PVS14 few hours ago so I'll probably be backordered (#368310). I've been tire kicking this for too long. I've bought a Breach, a helmet and a bridge but never seemed ready to buy the PVS14. This should allow me to finish off my helmet...until the bino bug bites. Fingers crossed for hitting the lottery on the spec sheet. I'm excited to check this out.
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Posted: 7/3/2020 5:20:22 PM EDT
[#8]
https://youtu.be/6g2IRQBQdGE
$2300 Also, gen 3 monocular pvs14 thin film white phosphorus for $2350 |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 5:39:22 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Got my invoice. Fuck me and my 5 week lead time At least you git one in the works I got a friendly reminder here at work and immediatly start cursing |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 5:50:13 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We are not offering hand select on Elbit systems, if you want the hand select option then that is where the L3H tubes come in and thats is one thing you are paying for. we also cannot sell to Canadians. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 5:57:11 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryQuoted: why not? is commercial spec still itar? that seems odd. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We are not offering hand select on Elbit systems, if you want the hand select option then that is where the L3H tubes come in and thats is one thing you are paying for. we also cannot sell to Canadians. All Gen 2/3 NV falls under Itar once imported or manufactured in the US |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 5:58:01 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryQuoted: why not? is commercial spec still itar? that seems odd. All Gen. 3 and even most higher performing Gen. 2 is still ITAR. COM-SPEC/MIL-SPEC and exportable/non-exportable (ITAR) are two different things with totally different metrics, though--FWIW, the "FOM" or "Figure of Merit" benchmark for determining tube "quality" actually does have a lot to do with creating an easy metric to classify tubes for export/restricted. ~Augee |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:02:39 PM EDT
[#13]
In for a pvs14. Thanks to Bill @ TNVC, he was very patient and I'm now looking forward to the possibility of classes down here in Florida. Where do you guys see your wait time? My invoice just says "Backordered: 1."
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:05:39 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: In for a pvs14. Thanks to Bill @ TNVC, he was very patient and I'm now looking forward to the possibility of classes down here in Florida. Where do you guys see your wait time? My invoice just says "Backordered: 1." Greenline does classes in FL all the time. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:06:04 PM EDT
[#15]
So my question is, for a first NV device and probably only NV device for a long time, would you rather have a TNV L3 UF WP PVS14, or one of these new bino options?
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:13:01 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So my question is, for a first NV device and probably only NV device for a long time, would you rather have a TNV L3 UF WP PVS14, or one of these new bino options? If those are the only two choices with no upgrading then hands down the bino. This comes up often and it's probably 9 out of 10 will take the binos. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:16:44 PM EDT
[#17]
Alright, I'm in! I am keeping my fingers crossed that it meets or exceeds the performance of my OMNI VII GP tube. Also, I didn't realize TNVC charges your card right away on back orders? I guess it's a different vendor I was thinking of that only charges when they ship.
Now, off to sell some things to pay for the new purchase!
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:29:02 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If those are the only two choices with no upgrading then hands down the bino. This comes up often and it's probably 9 out of 10 will take the binos. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: So my question is, for a first NV device and probably only NV device for a long time, would you rather have a TNV L3 UF WP PVS14, or one of these new bino options? If those are the only two choices with no upgrading then hands down the bino. This comes up often and it's probably 9 out of 10 will take the binos. I'm the 1 out of 10 that chose the unfilmed white phosphor PVS-14 over binos.  I'm going thermal (either helmet or weapon) for the other eye. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:34:53 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So my question is, for a first NV device and probably only NV device for a long time, would you rather have a TNV L3 UF WP PVS14, or one of these new bino options? Look a couple threads down for "Nice PVS 14 or Meh binos?" I was asking the same thing. Personally i am probably going to go Binos, but I still really love the idea of having a top-of-the-line PVS14, if nothing else just for the novelty of being able to experience and show off the latest and greatest technology. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:50:57 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm the 1 out of 10 that chose the unfilmed white phosphor PVS-14 over binos. I'm going thermal (either helmet or weapon) for the other eye. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So my question is, for a first NV device and probably only NV device for a long time, would you rather have a TNV L3 UF WP PVS14, or one of these new bino options? If those are the only two choices with no upgrading then hands down the bino. This comes up often and it's probably 9 out of 10 will take the binos. I'm the 1 out of 10 that chose the unfilmed white phosphor PVS-14 over binos. I'm going thermal (either helmet or weapon) for the other eye. Dunno about that, we are still CRUSHED with L3 WP unfilmed orders!  |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 6:59:49 PM EDT
[#21]
Late to the party but took wife out to dinner to discuss NV options. After a tall ameretto sour she suggested execute on this smoking hot deal immediately and she would run it if I decide I need a higher spec unit down the road. What a trooper!
Im greeted with a "we are reviewing your order" Wife said see you were too late.... I assured her we are good! |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 7:04:29 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryQuoted: If those are the only two choices with no upgrading then hands down the bino. This comes up often and it's probably 9 out of 10 will take the binos. May be able to upgrade down the road, but I imagine it'll be quite a while. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 7:05:04 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Look a couple threads down for "Nice PVS 14 or Meh binos?" I was asking the same thing. Personally i am probably going to go Binos, but I still really love the idea of having a top-of-the-line PVS14, if nothing else just for the novelty of being able to experience and show off the latest and greatest technology. Yep, I had been following that thread as well. Just figured I'd ask in here for comparison to this specific new setup. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 7:44:03 PM EDT
[#24]
She sounds like my wife. Can't go wrong there lol
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Posted: 7/3/2020 7:54:50 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dunno about that, we are still CRUSHED with L3 WP unfilmed orders! I would really be curious how many of each got bought in basically 24 hours. I will probably never know. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 7:59:20 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah I got the 2 to 4 day email. 1-2wk here, can't complain |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 8:05:38 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So my question is, for a first NV device and probably only NV device for a long time, would you rather have a TNV L3 UF WP PVS14, or one of these new bino options? |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 8:09:17 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Dunno about that, we are still CRUSHED with L3 WP unfilmed orders! Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So my question is, for a first NV device and probably only NV device for a long time, would you rather have a TNV L3 UF WP PVS14, or one of these new bino options? If those are the only two choices with no upgrading then hands down the bino. This comes up often and it's probably 9 out of 10 will take the binos. I'm the 1 out of 10 that chose the unfilmed white phosphor PVS-14 over binos. I'm going thermal (either helmet or weapon) for the other eye. Dunno about that, we are still CRUSHED with L3 WP unfilmed orders! I am on that list
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Posted: 7/3/2020 8:24:01 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I am on that list Me too. And I'm starting to wonder if I should cancel and order binos. I would love to have the nicer tube, but it sounds like it's worth not having the best to have binos. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 8:30:38 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I would take gen 2 bino over gen 3 gucci 14. mono's suck. It’s interesting how some people hate mono’s and others love them. A dual tube setup is certainly preferred but a mono certainly doesn’t suck. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 9:25:57 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1-2wk here, can't complain Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Yeah I got the 2 to 4 day email. 1-2wk here, can't complain @MattR How to you see what your lead time is? The emails I got didn't include a ETA. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 9:37:58 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @MattR How to you see what your lead time is? The emails I got didn't include a ETA. My email includes my invoice and says "thank you for your order. It has 2-4 business day lead time." |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 9:40:11 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My email includes my invoice and says "thank you for your order. It has 2-4 business day lead time." Same. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 9:44:44 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My email includes my invoice and says "thank you for your order. It has 2-4 business day lead time." My 4:15am order invoice says allow 5 days for shipping. I can live with that. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 9:46:52 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll make sure and build you a good unit Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Got my invoice. Fuck me and my 5 week lead time I'll make sure and build you a good unit
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Posted: 7/3/2020 9:49:01 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: My 4:15am order invoice says allow 5 days for shipping. I can live with that. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: My email includes my invoice and says "thank you for your order. It has 2-4 business day lead time." My 4:15am order invoice says allow 5 days for shipping. I can live with that. Mine just indicates Backorder. Eh, I'm not worried. More excited than anything. I've been running a PVS 7 for about a year or so and am looking forward to running a 14. Thanks! 
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Posted: 7/3/2020 9:49:42 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: 1-2wk here, can't complain Same here 
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Posted: 7/3/2020 10:47:46 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: mono's suck. Monos don't suck unless it's an Aurora. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 10:57:40 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Could be worse, I called in at 8:05 this morning to have my existing order changed to these and was told I will have to call in on Monday because the guys helping me couldnt get in to the night goggles system. At the current rate I am anticipating a 20 weeks lead time Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Got my invoice. Fuck me and my 5 week lead time I'll make sure and build you a good unit Damn. I emailed my order at 10:50 this morning, and haven’t heard a peep, no charges or confirmation email yet. They must be hammered with orders. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 11:06:46 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'll make sure and build you a good unit Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Got my invoice. Fuck me and my 5 week lead time I'll make sure and build you a good unit Haha, though it’s not really TNVC’s fault, can you build be a good DTNVS unit when you guys get the housings!?! Haha, a 6-7 month lead time is killing me! |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 11:09:46 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn. I emailed my order at 10:50 this morning, and haven’t heard a peep, no charges or confirmation email yet. They must be hammered with orders. We are, but we shan't be forgetting anyone or leaving anyone hanging! In the off chance that an e-mail might have gone to spam and/or all the phones were busy today when you called, please re-engage us if you don’t hear back by Monday! ~Augee |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 11:10:23 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Damn. I emailed my order at 10:50 this morning, and haven’t heard a peep, no charges or confirmation email yet. They must be hammered with orders. Who did you email your order to? They emailed me an invoice |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 11:12:02 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We are, but we shan't be forgetting anyone or leaving anyone hanging! In the off chance that an e-mail might have gone to spam and/or all the phones were busy today when you called, please re-engage us if you don’t hear back by Monday! ~Augee Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Damn. I emailed my order at 10:50 this morning, and haven’t heard a peep, no charges or confirmation email yet. They must be hammered with orders. We are, but we shan't be forgetting anyone or leaving anyone hanging! In the off chance that an e-mail might have gone to spam and/or all the phones were busy today when you called, please re-engage us if you don’t hear back by Monday! ~Augee Will do. Thanks Augee. |
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Posted: 7/3/2020 11:13:06 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Who did you email your order to? They emailed me an invoice Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Damn. I emailed my order at 10:50 this morning, and haven’t heard a peep, no charges or confirmation email yet. They must be hammered with orders. Who did you email your order to? They emailed me an invoice Per Sams instructions I emailed all of my info to [email protected] |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 12:06:11 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Damn. I emailed my order at 10:50 this morning, and haven’t heard a peep, no charges or confirmation email yet. They must be hammered with orders. Who did you email your order to? They emailed me an invoice Per Sams instructions I emailed all of my info to [email protected] Didn't know we were supposed to do that. I simply ordered right off the site. Card was charged immediately and I received an invoice email in minutes. |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 12:21:00 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Didn't know we were supposed to do that. I simply ordered right off the site. Card was charged immediately and I received an invoice email in minutes. You did it right. IIRC, @Honda4828 wanted to use multiple cash rewards cards to make the purchase (and/or he had other specific circumstances like an order change or something) hence why Sam told him to e-mail versus ordering online. ~Augee |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 12:28:04 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: You did it right. IIRC, @Honda4828 wanted to use multiple cash rewards cards to make the purchase (and/or he had other specific circumstances like an order change or something) hence why Sam told him to e-mail versus ordering online. ~Augee Ah. That makes sense. |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 12:29:53 AM EDT
[#48]
Will my Wilcox L4 G11 Mount work or do I need to buy a Wilcox L4 G24 mount?
Thanks. |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 12:50:00 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Will my Wilcox L4 G11 Mount work or do I need to buy a Wilcox L4 G24 mount? Thanks. Depends on which unit you buy. Yes on the 14 no on the binos. |
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Posted: 7/4/2020 2:48:09 AM EDT
[#50]
Damn that price is tempting I want to buy them but I’m skeered I will get one of the ones with dark spots/blemishes. I think that would probably bother me more than lower specs just from an OCD perspective lol.
If you spring for the fancier unfilmed ones will they be spot free or is that still a possibility and I just have unrealistic expectations. Complete night vision noob, so sorry for asking questions that have probably been asked 87,000 times. It’s all very overwhelming. |
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