Wilcox g24 wiggle?

Posted: 5/22/2020 10:36:21 PM EDT

So I’ve always been a norotos guy, but after recently moving to a bino system, I had to get away from the INVG and went to a g24. It seems like a really nice mount but there’s a LOT of play in it. Before you ask, yes, I read the manual and have adjusted the available spots. This is the plate that seems to be secured by the height adjustment lever, and it acts as a kind of fulcrum point. It gives the unit lateral motion when I’m walking or look at something too quickly. I really want to make this mount work but this seems to be a lot of play for a $500 piece of precision machined metal.

Posted: 5/22/2020 11:24:43 PM EDT

[#1]

What shroud are you running?

Posted: 5/22/2020 11:53:21 PM EDT

[#2]

Wilcox l4. It’s pretty tight in the shroud, it’s the rest of the unit connected to the plate that goes up and down that moves. I wish I knew how to post pics

Posted: 5/22/2020 11:55:31 PM EDT

[#3]

Same problem, tag for answers

Posted: 5/23/2020 12:13:02 AM EDT

[#4]

How long have you had yours?

Posted: 5/23/2020 1:02:11 AM EDT

[#5]

When mine was new everything was very tight. As I use it over time the height adjustment likda loosened up a little bit. I guess it's just normal wear but no where unacceptable. And I use bungee cords all the time anyways.

Posted: 5/23/2020 1:18:04 AM EDT

[#6]

Mines brand new, and I’d say I can move the binos 1/3” in both directions

Posted: 5/23/2020 2:49:50 AM EDT

[#7]

You can tighten the height adjustment with an allen key. The screw on the lever.

Posted: 5/23/2020 7:38:51 AM EDT

[#8]

I've only fiddled with a buddies real one, off helmet, don't personally own one. From what I saw, if they made the pin on the plunger thicker, or the "U" notch on the barrel smaller, it would be better. Different location from your exact problem, just throwing it out there.

Posted: 5/23/2020 10:32:40 AM EDT

[#9]

Should have mentioned that. All the screws are as tight as they will go

Posted: 5/23/2020 12:38:17 PM EDT

[#10]

The vertical fulcrum point on mine has gotten loose over the years, when it is down it can flex a solid 10°-20° vertical without pushing the button to flip them up.

All the norotos i have had and currently own never have had this much play.

Posted: 5/23/2020 12:57:31 PM EDT

[#11]

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The vertical fulcrum point on mine has gotten loose over the years, when it is down it can flex a solid 10°-20° vertical without pushing the button to flip them up.

All the norotos i have had and currently own never have had this much play.

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That's the Pin and U Notch - if you could somehow get something around that pin (heat shrink?) it would tighten up. The thing is so damn short though...

Posted: 5/23/2020 1:09:48 PM EDT

[#12]

It’s ultimately just tolerance stacking.

For better or for worse, the L4/Universal/USGI pattern has been around for over twenty years and manufactured by countless companies, from the earliest plastic PVS-7 Rhinos to the latest L4 and Norotos Hyper mounts, and they’re all supposed to be interchangeable.

I’ve had mounts and shrouds from all different companies—some combinations that need to be hammered in, some that feel like they’d fall off with the slightest bump.

Obviously out of spec mounts can happen in the course of manufacturing, but the spec tolerances are inherently fairly generous due to the longevity and variety of manufacturers over the years, so to a certain extent it can sometimes simply be luck of the draw.

Ultimately it’s part of the reason for some of the various semi-permanent fixed mount designs as well as the Wilcox “rail shroud” used on the GSGM/DPAM as well as the G24R.

Luckily, there are a number of ways you can adjust tension on mounts besides simply swapping them and finding a good fit through brute force, including using shims of various types (thin foam/rubber dots can work, as can soft sided Velcro), as well as using bungees to retain tension within the whole assembly.

It is wholly possible that simply using another mount or shroud might produce a totally different fit, but it’s hard to “blind match” with a 100% guarantee of perfect fit unless you have a lot of different components to mix and match, though like-manufacturer combinations tend to have a higher chance of fitting well since they’re at least using the exact same tolerances in manufacturing, but again, in the end it’s a symptom of having to manufacture interfaces that will fit such a wide range of potential parts that have not always been held to as tight tolerance as they are now.

FWIW, I have enough mounts and shrouds at this point that I could brute force check and match them, but I never bother and have never had an issue.

~Augee

Posted: 5/23/2020 2:36:34 PM EDT

[#13]

Thanks for the input bud. So am I basically stuck with it how it is? I’ve gotta say if that’s the case I’m kind of disappointed with Wilcox for $500 and their ‘virtually wobble free interface’. It’s a spot I figured would be the least likely to produce wobble. I’ve got over a half an inch of horizontal travel in the goggles, lol. Thanks again!

Posted: 5/23/2020 2:38:01 PM EDT

[#14]

Thanks for the input bud. So am I basically stuck with it how it is? I’ve gotta say if that’s the case I’m kind of disappointed with Wilcox for $500 and their ‘virtually wobble free interface’. It’s a spot I figured would be the least likely to produce wobble. I’ve got over a half an inch of horizontal travel in the goggles, lol. Thanks again!

ETA: for what it’s worth, I’ve shimmed the mount into the shroud, and I’m running a TNVC bridge and the lockup is flawless. I can’t find any other deficiency I the system other than the vertical adjustment plate having horizontal wobble around an axis.

Posted: 5/23/2020 2:56:03 PM EDT

[#15]

Wilcox has a lifetime warranty, contact them they can help
You out and often times replace the interface

Posted: 5/23/2020 3:22:05 PM EDT

[#16]

Thank you fellas. Y’all are the best

Posted: 5/23/2020 10:09:34 PM EDT

[#17]

Same problem but most of my play is in between the mount and shroud, especially if I use the break away. I have been strongly considering switching to something like a g30 with a permanent mount.

Posted: 5/24/2020 11:36:17 AM EDT

[#18]

I may have been expecting too much, but it just seems that there’s so many people that love them. The norotos LoSto didn’t have any wobble to it when I tried it. The Wilcox seems like an awesome mount, but the play is weird

Posted: 5/24/2020 1:06:06 PM EDT

[#19]

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I may have been expecting too much, but it just seems that there’s so many people that love them. The norotos LoSto didn’t have any wobble to it when I tried it. The Wilcox seems like an awesome mount, but the play is weird

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As others have said - contact the manufacturer. The amount of play you describe is not normal.

Posted: 5/24/2020 1:44:10 PM EDT

[#20]

I am. I’ve got to wait till they open (probably Tuesday) and see what they say. Thanks everyone for your input

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