This subject matter came up here several year ago when a vendor on Ebay got caught doing this and Dino and well respected member was the victim.  How does the actual image look edge to edge?

Those TNVC Bastards!!!!!

We don't sell RNVGs nor parts so it's not us.

These lenses are made by Avi Ayalon (original developer/partner for Avimo . . . Now Qioptiq) for Apache Industries.  They are the same lenses that qualified for DLA/Defense Logistics Agency by Nivisys before they were purchased by Relativity Capital. They meet the requirements of A3256352 and are 100% MIL SPEC. They are not Chinese, they are not fake, and they are not any lower quality than Qioptiq(Carson) glass. I would challenge anyone to compare the image through these lens with any MIL SPEC glass and tell a difference. You cannot. The only difference is they have a little bit more of a glossy appearance on the plastic dipoter adjustment, an orange 0-ring, and they are in stock so you can get your lenses quickly. If Qioptiq glass was on the shelf we would have sent you that instead. They are equal in quality and price.

You clock the diopter by moving the indicator ring, it's not a static setting from the factory. This ensures there is no way the diopter setting can be "jacked up" because you can put the white dot anywhere on the circumference of the eyepiece. That is how every PVS-14 eyepiece is so that you can set 0 on a device because different devices have different 0 settings.

You were correct to think that we are a reputable company, and always have been. You are incorrect to think that we would ever try to be dishonest with a customer. Never have, never will. That is how we run our business. Our typical procedure in this situation if you were unhappy is to mail you a replacement with a sticker return label in the box. I know that we offered to exchange them, but I think we dropped the ball on that and I am sorry if that is not how it was presented. At any rate - accusing someone of selling counterfeit product is a very serious accusation. People know that they will be taken care up properly when they buy from us, and we never have and never will sell counterfeit product.  Fortunately one of our many good customers sent this to us so we can defend ourselves. I understand if you feel like you got jipped, but your ordered MIL SPEC eyepieces 4/29 and we had MIL SPEC eyepieces on your doorstep 5/1. Are these accusations really necessary? They look a little glossier than you were expecting, I get that and the offer still stands to ship you a Qioptiq pair if you like.  




For those that don't want to read to page 3:


Here are the invoices from some of our recent eyepiece orders. Note the part number A3256352.






The number you see on the OP's eyepiece is a lot number. Here is the random sample test data for recent lots based on the MIL spec requirements I provided below.



I understand from the OPs perspective that these lenses look different than the Carson lenses in the picture, but this is not uncommon.

For example here are 4 objective lenses, all MIL spec, and all from different manufacturers.




Here are 2 different eyepieces from the same manufacturer with different designs. These are both from Carson. Notice the holes on the bottom of the unit on the right to remove the spanner ring. This design uses a ring from the bottom to hold the cells in place, instead of a ring from the top.



I prefer a matte finish over glossy, but I do like the additional threads for the eyecup retainer ring. It especially comes in handy when attaching recording devices.

One of the things we really try to do is to have products in stock available to ship immediately, which means sourcing quality products from as many places as we can.


I understand the OPs eyepiece does look different than the photo on the website, and we should have done a better job providing that information up front. We are going to fix that by adding a photo of these eyepieces and making it an option to choose Apache or Carson before hand.
Edit: Added these photos.






We also should have just sent the OP a label in the first place.

Thanks for redacting.

There is no requirement for subcomponents of the eyepiece to be interchangeable between manufacturers, except for the eyecup retaining ring which it is on these 2 eyepieces.

There is also to requirement for subcomponents of battery housings or objectives to be interchangeable because those are not field serviceable. You would just replace the entire eyepiece, objective, or battery housing.

For reference, AGM stands for the first initials of each of the owners. Former ATN, then Armasight, then FLIR when they were purchased, then all fired, now AGM.

Same basic NV line and changed a few battery caps on their TWS's so not to get sued from FLIR for non-compete violations. Just a FYI...and the glass they use or used for their 14 builds has never been Mil-Spec and always had a slight fishy eye distortion.

Edit, several years ago when FLIR purchased Armasight, one of the owners Dimitri visited us (who I like and really tries to make decent product at times and thank goodness he's not part of AGM) brought some of his 14's and components. From what I remember, same exact glass as the AGM stuff. Yea component pricing was better then the full up Mil Spec, but we cannot settle for lower grade gear for our builds.

Just to be clear, I am not saying UNV and AGM glass are the same. We don't use any of this glass. I only know what Armasight then FLIR was using which looks very similar to what we handled and depicted here from the OP.

Yes. These are not commercial optics from Optronics Engineering in Israel. These come from the same vendor in Singapore that has been producing optics that have been supplied to DoD in PVS-14 eyepieces for over a decade. Where does Qioptiq glass come from? Singapore.



When I am in the office next week I will post the test sample report data to support it.  There are some users on this site that should stop jumping to conclusions and publishing written false statements that could damage UNV's reputation.


Just an FYI - we will do whatever we have to do to maintain our pristine reputation and that includes legal action against libel. I have worked very hard to build it. That is not a threat, it is just unfortunately what we have to do when people or companies defame our name whether by accident or for personal gain. Please just try and remember that there are people behind each handle and what you say and publish online can have real consequences.

Yes. If anyone thinks they have published  a false statement that will damage UNV's reputation the wise thing to do would be to edit or redact. At that point it's a misunderstanding that has been cleared up. No harm no foul.

If you are wondering why we must take this approach just think of it this way - Can I post false statements about your integrity online to the point where it would cost you business or your job? How about just a few sales? Where's the line?  If I can't do that to you why would you expect me to accept from you? Every man has the right to protect their reputation and livelihood. My reputation of integrity is probably the most valuable asset I have in my business, and I'm not about to let that be tarnished over innuendo and false statements. It's not personal, and I'm not calling you out. We are still going to take care of your exchange and appreciate all business. We can't set a precedent for UNV or for any business on this forum for that matter that this is "OK" to make false statements.

No Chosos, all I am saying is that it seems like users just throw around the idea that we are lying, selling counterfeit product, not mil spec and that is a very serious thing to say. It is also 100% false. I welcome the questions that are "What is this", just not the accusations or falsely assumed "facts". If I don't defend UNVs reputation this stuff gets posted in internet oblivion forever with no defense. I probably take it more seriously than everyone else because it is my job. :) I have no beefs with anyone on this forum I just want to remind people that when it comes to our reputation we take that very seriously because our business ethics are what differentiates us from most other vendors. Any other approach besides a vigorous defense would be business suicide. Anyway, stay tuned for the test data and we can all put this to rest. The glass is high quality and if you look through it next to any other PVS-14 eyepiece you will see that.