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Posted: 2/6/2020 2:49:24 PM EDT
[Last Edit: coctailer]
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No need to post that you are leaving a thread....
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Posted: 2/6/2020 5:18:06 PM EDT
[#2]
Is there an alternative to the Norotos PVS-15/PVS-18 socket adapter that is perpetually out-of-stock? I already have one on backorder, and it's the last piece I need.
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Posted: 2/6/2020 8:29:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TexasBrushHunter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew:
Is there an alternative to the Norotos PVS-15/PVS-18 socket adapter that is perpetually out-of-stock? I already have one on backorder, and it's the last piece I need. HCC Tactical Sockst Not affiliated in anyway with HCC tactical. |
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Posted: 2/6/2020 8:30:59 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TexasBrushHunter:
@lew https://www.hcctac.com/products/quick-change-dovetail-socket?_pos=18&_sid=892df0750&_ss=r Not affiliated in anyway with HCC tactical. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 8:56:42 AM EDT
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We can post technical info in this thread, or delete this thread.
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Posted: 2/7/2020 8:37:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AIWB]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Pheenixm: Doesn't surprise me at all. There is a reason that nobody has been able to do good digital night vision in the past 20 years and it is hardly for a lack of trying. Thing many of the folks in this thread don't seem to understand is that development of digital components has slowed exponentially in the past few years; we've hit the limit of Moore's Law and development cycles has become limited by the years of research and classification needed to prepare new materials for market. I say this as someone who has done research on Gallium Nitride - a truly fantastic and energy efficient materials that is just now, roughly 20 years after it's initial use in semiconductor circuitry, making its way into the market in a big way. Sure, digital is going to continue to slowly and steadily develop over the years, but knowing the industry the way that I do, it will continue to be a slow, plodding, and brutally methodical pace. I honestly feel a little sorry for the folks at Sionyx; they took several existing technologies and put them together into a consumer product in a way that had never been done before, and was cool...but now that they've got a strong following, they're just as limited by the rules of the industry as everyone else is. There is no magic bullet they can turn to, no groundbreaking development in digital circuitry that can solve the fundamental issue that our semiconductor science just isn't there yet. I hope I'm wrong, and that I have to eat these words when they pull out some unheard of breakthrough — but being that Sionyx is likely using off-the-shelf parts and not running a full semiconductor research laboratory, I am very doubtful they will be able to outpace the industry as a whole. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 9:12:43 PM EDT
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@mickdonaldson
Can you remind me of the preferred picture/video settings? Doing a night shoot tomorrow and want to capture some footage. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 10:34:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal:
@mickdonaldson Can you remind me of the preferred picture/video settings? Doing a night shoot tomorrow and want to capture some footage. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 10:34:56 PM EDT
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not mick but i copied this from someones post.....im sorry i dont remember who.
Tips for setting up SiOnyx camera for helmet use as of 9/14/2019, subject to firmware changes: 1-Use Video mode, set EIS off, FPS to 30, 720p, HDR on 2-Long press the SET button to access the menu, Toggle down to EVF Time Out and set to "Never". Then scroll down to image and set to invert. 3-zoom in 3 clicks for 1:1 view (using the 4 way buttons) 4-turn down viewfinder illumination almost all the way (using the 4 way buttons) credit to him. hope it helps. |
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Posted: 2/7/2020 10:39:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: R3L04D]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By killahalee:
not mick but i copied this from someones post.....im sorry i dont remember who. Tips for setting up SiOnyx camera for helmet use as of 9/14/2019, subject to firmware changes: 1-Use Video mode, set EIS off, FPS to 30, 720p, HDR on 2-Long press the SET button to access the menu, Toggle down to EVF Time Out and set to "Never". Then scroll down to image and set to invert. 3-zoom in 3 clicks for 1:1 view (using the 4 way buttons) 4-turn down viewfinder illumination almost all the way (using the 4 way buttons) credit to him. hope it helps. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By killahalee:
not mick but i copied this from someones post.....im sorry i dont remember who. Tips for setting up SiOnyx camera for helmet use as of 9/14/2019, subject to firmware changes: 1-Use Video mode, set EIS off, FPS to 30, 720p, HDR on 2-Long press the SET button to access the menu, Toggle down to EVF Time Out and set to "Never". Then scroll down to image and set to invert. 3-zoom in 3 clicks for 1:1 view (using the 4 way buttons) 4-turn down viewfinder illumination almost all the way (using the 4 way buttons) credit to him. hope it helps. Originally Posted By mickdonaldson: I recorded a shoot under full moon conditions at 720p/30 with HDR off, and it came out nice. Both color and gray scale.  99% moon plus we will be close-ish to a highway so should have a lot of ambient light
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Posted: 2/8/2020 12:09:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mickdonaldson]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal:
Appreciate you both. Hoping to have some footage up on Sunday. There will be 5 of us at a night shoot....I'll have the only Aurora and I believe the only recording device. So potentially quite a bit of videos and pictures. Taking two camera batteries and two battery packs 99% moon plus we will be close-ish to a highway so should have a lot of ambient light
You can try HDR on if you want. According to a recording engineer on the Airsoft Sionyx FB group - the Aurora has to do more processing, comparing frames, with HDR on, so I figure why make it work harder for a *very* minimal improvement (if you look at the Carpe Nocturnum YouTube channel, he does comparos of HDR On vs Off, There *is* a difference in dark areas - HDR brightens them up a bit - but it's not that dramatic). I figure the less the camera has to work, the better, as long as what I see is good enough to me. You good as far as "flipping" the video back "right side up" for publishing? I use VLC Player Tools>Effects and Filters>Video Effects>Geometry>Transform/Rotate By 180; Save. Then Media>Convert/Save. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 1:36:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By killahalee:
not mick but i copied this from someones post.....im sorry i dont remember who. Tips for setting up SiOnyx camera for helmet use as of 9/14/2019, subject to firmware changes: 1-Use Video mode, set EIS off, FPS to 30, 720p, HDR on 2-Long press the SET button to access the menu, Toggle down to EVF Time Out and set to "Never". Then scroll down to image and set to invert. 3-zoom in 3 clicks for 1:1 view (using the 4 way buttons) 4-turn down viewfinder illumination almost all the way (using the 4 way buttons) credit to him. hope it helps. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 2:00:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cttb]
[#13]
Does anyone have a tip for getting an IR light mounted on a helmet rail to sit a little lower? If I could drop where the light sits about an inch, it would square up perfectly with the Aurora.
Also, I recently bought this super duper Chinesium IR/Green laser. Surprisingly, it holds zero through more than 10 rounds of 6.5 Grendel. The mount appears to be the weak link. Until it was torqued sufficiently, zero shifted. The lasers are bigger than I would like at distance, but oh well. The green laser's windage knob moves the dot opposite of the directional indicator, but I've gotten that on Primary Arms dots too. Each click is about .5 moa, maybe even a little more. It's a coarse tool, but I think it will work for short range hunting. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 2:26:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blackwind:
Thanks for posting that again, couldn't seem to locate it. I have ordered two of the Sports but have a question on the HD vs the Pro. If you were going to order two more, which would they be? I frankly am not seeing "more" with the Pro other than the new sensor at this time and that doesn't seem to be pressing enough to go with two more Pro versions. I'm leaning towards just ordering two more HD versions and wait to see what we see with the Pro's. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 2:49:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cttb:
Does anyone have a tip for getting an IR light mounted on a helmet rail to sit a little lower? If I could drop where the light sits about an inch, it would square up perfectly with the Aurora. Also, I recently bought this super duper Chinesium IR/Green laser. Surprisingly, it holds zero through more than 10 rounds of 6.5 Grendel. The mount appears to be the weak link. Until it was torqued sufficiently, zero shifted. The lasers are bigger than I would like at distance, but oh well. The green laser's windage knob moves the dot opposite of the directional indicator, but I've gotten that on Primary Arms dots too. Each click is about .5 moa, maybe even a little more. It's a coarse tool, but I think it will work for short range hunting. in my head I'm trying to envision what you're asking about. Are you talkin about trying to line up a flashlight with the Aurora? |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 3:29:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Maverick52: I don't think anybody can honestly answer that as nobody has gotten their hands on a Pro yet. As far as I can tell there is only that one comparison video as well. First quarter Visible: 58% ↑ Waxing gibbous Visible: 69% ↑ Wish it was lower, but if it shows up earlier, the 22nd to the 27th is pretty dark. I have no idea if they are going to release more comparison vids. I was sold after seeing that first one though - any current user knows that digital noise zone, and under what conditions it occurs - up to each individual to decide if it's worth the $399 more than the Sport. |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 5:27:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal:
You might look for an offset scope ring. Personally I use cheap scope rings to hold my flashlights and then Mount them to the picatinny rail pieces that slide into the slots on the helmet. You might find one that has some sort of an offset. in my head I'm trying to envision what you're asking about. Are you talkin about trying to line up a flashlight with the Aurora? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal:
Originally Posted By cttb:
Does anyone have a tip for getting an IR light mounted on a helmet rail to sit a little lower? If I could drop where the light sits about an inch, it would square up perfectly with the Aurora. Also, I recently bought this super duper Chinesium IR/Green laser. Surprisingly, it holds zero through more than 10 rounds of 6.5 Grendel. The mount appears to be the weak link. Until it was torqued sufficiently, zero shifted. The lasers are bigger than I would like at distance, but oh well. The green laser's windage knob moves the dot opposite of the directional indicator, but I've gotten that on Primary Arms dots too. Each click is about .5 moa, maybe even a little more. It's a coarse tool, but I think it will work for short range hunting. in my head I'm trying to envision what you're asking about. Are you talkin about trying to line up a flashlight with the Aurora? Originally Posted By Tomac:
Originally Posted By hushpuppy:
Anyone have a recommendation for a decent flashlight mount. Tomac https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/1593/PC260002_JPG-1211742.JPG |
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Posted: 2/8/2020 7:23:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cttb: I was looking for a picture to show you, and I think I found my answer: 
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Posted: 2/8/2020 9:20:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew:
Is there an alternative to the Norotos PVS-15/PVS-18 socket adapter that is perpetually out-of-stock? I already have one on backorder, and it's the last piece I need. I found this on one web site. Shipments of this item are delaying until late February 2020 due to a delay in supply from the manufacturer |
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Posted: 2/9/2020 9:12:50 PM EDT
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99% moon, no IR. 0.0 Gain
Roughly 10 yards from the targets 
Moon behind some clouds 
50 yards from the camera to the barricades, 100 yards to the steel at the berm 
Getting ready to fire 
Filling mags 
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Posted: 2/10/2020 6:02:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal:
99% moon, no IR. 0.0 Gain Roughly 10 yards from the targets https://i.imgur.com/A47SoOXh.jpg Moon behind some clouds https://i.imgur.com/eqjhFD4h.jpg 50 yards from the camera to the barricades, 100 yards to the steel at the berm https://i.imgur.com/Yro4X6Zh.jpg Getting ready to fire https://i.imgur.com/YdxYIBZh.jpg Filling mags https://i.imgur.com/X8JRBqDh.jpg |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 10:08:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Dapzel]
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Probably answered some where in this long thread but when looking through the view finder.
Does it have the noise shown in these recent pictures? Does using Green or white make a difference? I'd like to see more photos using the Sionyx and without it turn on for comparisons also |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 1:45:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal:
99% moon, no IR. 0.0 Gain Roughly 10 yards from the targets https://i.imgur.com/A47SoOXh.jpg Moon behind some clouds https://i.imgur.com/eqjhFD4h.jpg 50 yards from the camera to the barricades, 100 yards to the steel at the berm https://i.imgur.com/Yro4X6Zh.jpg Getting ready to fire https://i.imgur.com/YdxYIBZh.jpg Filling mags https://i.imgur.com/X8JRBqDh.jpg I need to find a range that i can shoot at night on. The Amish get a little upset if we’re shooting at night unless we make arrangements with the neighbors first. What beacons are you using? |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 1:48:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dapzel:
Probably answered some where in this long thread but when looking through the view finder. Does it have the noise shown in these recent pictures? Does using Green or white make a difference? I'd like to see more photos using the Sionyx and without it turn on for comparisons also |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 2:15:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: smokedoff]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67:
Not to speak for joemal but it’s been mentioned that what you see in the viewfinder is much much better than the photos. I’m sure others with first hand experience will comment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67:
Originally Posted By Dapzel:
Probably answered some where in this long thread but when looking through the view finder. Does it have the noise shown in these recent pictures? Does using Green or white make a difference? I'd like to see more photos using the Sionyx and without it turn on for comparisons also |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 2:52:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Not to speak for joemal but it's been mentioned that what you see in the viewfinder is much much better than the photos. I'm sure others with first hand experience will comment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chaas67: Not to speak for joemal but it's been mentioned that what you see in the viewfinder is much much better than the photos. I'm sure others with first hand experience will comment. Originally Posted By chaas67: Awesome pics - thanks for sharing! I need to find a range that i can shoot at night on. The Amish get a little upset if we're shooting at night unless we make arrangements with the neighbors first. What beacons are you using? |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 3:15:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By f402mech:
I have a few of the non-qd versions. Looks like the one you posted is out of stock. Shoot me a PM if you want one, been sitting in the parts bin for years Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By f402mech:
Originally Posted By cttb: I was looking for a picture to show you, and I think I found my answer: |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 4:05:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dapzel:
Probably answered some where in this long thread but when looking through the view finder. Does it have the noise shown in these recent pictures? Does using Green or white make a difference? I'd like to see more photos using the Sionyx and without it turn on for comparisons also |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 5:57:18 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By chaas67: Not to speak for joemal but it’s been mentioned that what you see in the viewfinder is much much better than the photos. I’m sure others with first hand experience will comment. Originally Posted By smokedoff: My viewfinder is far more clear than pictures I take. That’s been a consistent agreement throughout this thread. thanks |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 5:58:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater:
I've noticed a lot less noise if I'm in either green or white instead of color. |
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Posted: 2/10/2020 9:31:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal:
99% moon, no IR. 0.0 Gain Roughly 10 yards from the targets https://i.imgur.com/A47SoOXh.jpg Moon behind some clouds https://i.imgur.com/eqjhFD4h.jpg 50 yards from the camera to the barricades, 100 yards to the steel at the berm https://i.imgur.com/Yro4X6Zh.jpg Getting ready to fire https://i.imgur.com/YdxYIBZh.jpg Filling mags https://i.imgur.com/X8JRBqDh.jpg 
The video you took looks even better than the pics. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 9:17:01 AM EDT
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Green is said (in technical reviews I've seen/read) to be just an overlay to mimic Green Phosphor. I tend to agree, to me, it looks like there's a thin layer of Vaseline on the Lens/Screen. But it's probably a very individual thing.
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Posted: 2/11/2020 9:52:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mickdonaldson:
Green is said (in technical reviews I've seen/read) to be just an overlay to mimic Green Phosphor. I tend to agree, to me, it looks like there's a thin layer of Vaseline on the Lens/Screen. But it's probably a very individual thing. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 10:12:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mah827: The green photos I have seen posted seem worse than the color. Can someone post black and white vs color? Actually wouldn't mind seeing green, B&W and color of the same object to compare |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 12:29:52 PM EDT
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@dapzel
@mah287 https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Sionyx-digital-color-night-vision-camera-legit-alternative-to-a-PVS-14-/18-491313/?page=11#i5093727 Next time I'm out somewhere with it I'll try to do more tests |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 12:48:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dapzel]
[#36]
Thanks JoeMal
The black and white photos look better to my eyes.. Look forward to the new photos... Would it be possible to try and get an unaided eye picture along with using IR illumination and without using one. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 1:02:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dapzel:
Thanks JoeMal The black and white photos look better to my eyes.. Look forward to the new photos... Would it be possible to try and get an unaided eye picture along with using IR illumination and without using one. When using an illuminator in color mode it gives everything a purple color. My take away is use greyscale for everything unless it's not super dark ie lots of moonlight or ambient light from other sources that's when color mode really shines. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 1:15:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mpatch:
From my experience grayscale is much better than color when there isn't much light. When using an illuminator in color mode it gives everything a purple color. My take away is use greyscale for everything unless it's not super dark ie lots of moonlight or ambient light from other sources that's when color mode really shines. I'm waiting on the Pro reviews and probably will get one and do me a helmet set up |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 1:24:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal:
@dapzel @mah287 https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Sionyx-digital-color-night-vision-camera-legit-alternative-to-a-PVS-14-/18-491313/?page=11#i5093727 Next time I'm out somewhere with it I'll try to do more tests |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 1:25:20 PM EDT
[#40]
The Purple'ish tone with IR in Color mode, is a byproduct of different surfaces reflecting IR in different ways - at night. During the day, there is a lot of White. Go to Google Images and type in "IR Photography".
Edit: IR Images From Google |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 2:21:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mickdonaldson:
The Purple'ish tone with IR in Color mode, is a byproduct of different surfaces reflecting IR in different ways - at night. During the day, there is a lot of White. Go to Google Images and type in "IR Photography". Edit: IR Images From Google |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 2:28:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mah827: I forgot about those photos. The green looked terrible compared to the color and B&W. Does it look that bad to the eye? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mah827: I forgot about those photos. The green looked terrible compared to the color and B&W. Does it look that bad to the eye? I believe the few times I used green, I lowered the gain so it wasn't so...green. But meh Originally Posted By Dapzel:
Thanks JoeMal The black and white photos look better to my eyes.. Look forward to the new photos... Would it be possible to try and get an unaided eye picture along with using IR illumination and without using one. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:09:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal:
Not that bad, but it is my least favorite. In low light, I prefer B&W over color. But full moon or with IR, color wins I believe the few times I used green, I lowered the gain so it wasn't so...green. But meh What do you mean "unaided eye picture"? How it would look if you didn't have anything and just walked out the door |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:34:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dapzel:
Thanks JoeMal The black and white photos look better to my eyes.. Look forward to the new photos... Would it be possible to try and get an unaided eye picture along with using IR illumination and without using one. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 3:52:14 PM EDT
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So, any alternative the Norotos socket to mount the Aurora to a helmet?
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Posted: 2/11/2020 9:48:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: R3L04D]
[#46]
@dapzel
Not the greatest example, but it's going to have to work. Not sure when I'll be outdoors to get more of a nature scene at night, out of the city. I live in the burbs so we have a ton of ambient light outside. If you want neighborhood shots (neighborhood lighting), I'll do that. I was going to take some pictures in my backyard, but my security cameras IR lighting can't get you a non-IR shot. To reiterate, my house was pitch black. You'll see the Aurora really suffers with no ambient light (Which those of us that have these have been saying since this thread was under 10 pages). Compare the no-IR picture to my pictures from the other night with a full moon and no IR... Anyway, here are 4 photos looking down my ~30 yard hallway. All the lights in the house are off. Flashlight used is in flood mode, and it's the FandyFire $20 deal off Amazon In this order... 1. Cell phone, no flash (Samsung Galaxy S8+) 2. Aurora, no IR, color mode (The blue tint in the background must be from a night light I have in the kitchen...my dogs were probably walking around. Didn't notice that until now) 3. Aurora, IR, color 4. Aurora, IR, B&W 
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Posted: 2/11/2020 9:59:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal:
@dapzel Not the greatest example, but it's going to have to work. Not sure when I'll be outdoors to get more of a nature scene at night, out of the city. I live in the burbs so we have a ton of ambient light outside. If you want neighborhood shots (neighborhood lighting), I'll do that. I was going to take some pictures in my backyard, but my security cameras IR lighting can't get you a non-IR shot. To reiterate, my house was pitch black. You'll see the Aurora really suffers with no ambient light (Which those of us that have these have been saying since this thread was under 10 pages). Compare the no-IR picture to my pictures from the other night with a full moon and no IR... Anyway, here are 4 photos looking down my ~30 yard hallway. All the lights in the house are off. Flashlight used is in flood mode, and it's the FandyFire $20 deal off Amazon In this order... 1. Cell phone, no flash (Samsung Galaxy S8+) 2. Aurora, no IR, color mode (The blue tint in the background must be from a night light I have in the kitchen...my dogs were probably walking around. Didn't notice that until now) 3. Aurora, IR, color 4. Aurora, IR, B&W https://i.imgur.com/NdbovQ5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/eNa05Q9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/iYdnwmJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PEqqYo7.jpg |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 11:10:19 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dapzel]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JoeMal:
@dapzel Not the greatest example, but it's going to have to work. Not sure when I'll be outdoors to get more of a nature scene at night, out of the city. I live in the burbs so we have a ton of ambient light outside. If you want neighborhood shots (neighborhood lighting), I'll do that. I was going to take some pictures in my backyard, but my security cameras IR lighting can't get you a non-IR shot. To reiterate, my house was pitch black. You'll see the Aurora really suffers with no ambient light (Which those of us that have these have been saying since this thread was under 10 pages). Compare the no-IR picture to my pictures from the other night with a full moon and no IR... Anyway, here are 4 photos looking down my ~30 yard hallway. All the lights in the house are off. Flashlight used is in flood mode, and it's the FandyFire $20 deal off Amazon In this order... 1. Cell phone, no flash (Samsung Galaxy S8+) 2. Aurora, no IR, color mode (The blue tint in the background must be from a night light I have in the kitchen...my dogs were probably walking around. Didn't notice that until now) 3. Aurora, IR, color 4. Aurora, IR, B&W https://i.imgur.com/NdbovQ5.jpg https://i.imgur.com/eNa05Q9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/iYdnwmJ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/PEqqYo7.jpg THANKS!!! 
That's the type of comparison I wanted to see. When ever you get around to outdoors thats fine but those room picts really show the difference I was wondering about and .. That b&W/grayscale really looks good. I appreciate the photos Are you using a mono or bino config? At this point I just need for mickdonaldson to do his review of the Pro when it comes out 
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Posted: 2/11/2020 11:30:06 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Dapzel:
@JoeMal THANKS!!!
That's the type of comparison I wanted to see. When ever you get around to outdoors thats fine but those room picts really show the difference I was wondering about and .. That b&W/grayscale really looks good. I appreciate the photos Are you using a mono or bino config? At this point I just need for mickdonaldson to do his review of the Pro when it comes out if you want to go back and look at pages 8 through 14 there are several photos that you may be interested in seeing. That's what I did a lot of my initial impression, reviews, photos, etc. I still keep an eye on this thread but don't post a whole lot anymore. It will likely be several weeks if not more before I have the chance to really get out in the woods and take some pictures without all the ambient light that I have where I live. Again the hallway photos in my post above war in extremely dark conditions where are the Aurora really doesn't do well. again if you go back two pages 8, 9, 10 a lot of us are saying the same thing there is well. I don't know of anyone that really said this could replace a gen 3 analog unit. Is it capable of performing extremely well? Yes, but in certain circumstances. very little to no ambient light and true night vision will exceed every time but again were talking a $400 unit compared to a $3,000 unit. It's very hard to compare the two from an apples-to-apples point of view. $400 is referencing the sport model which SiOnyx claims has the same sensor as the original unit that sold for $700, which is what I have. The sport didn't have GPS and some other features that I'm guessing a lot of hunters and night vision guys wouldn't use. The pro model from what I understand is seven or eight hundred dollars but they claimed the sensor has been upgraded so who knows how it's going to perform. I haven't really seen any videos to know how it compares to the other units. To be completely transparent I am happy with the Aurora. What I prefer a white phosphor gen 3? Of course I would. But if I could afford one of those I would have it and wouldn't be in this thread. I think this does a great job filling a niche. |
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Posted: 2/11/2020 11:31:13 PM EDT
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Anyone have any feedback on this IR/visible laser combo? It appears sold under several names: HR Optics, Ade Advanced Optics, and Osprey. The model # of HG05 stays the same.
Will it hold zero? Is it durable within reason or junk? Thanks! 
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