Omnibus 8 contract, Harris manufacture, 45th week of 2012.

No info on the delivery order itself, this one wasn't made public (most aren't public) so you can only assume it's somewhere around the contract minimums. It should be autogated, and it was probably a military delivery tube.

*I agree with what you have posted on that tube. however, i would like to note that at the time when that tube was manufactured and sold under contract, Exelis was the Company that was in charge of ITT tube production. Harris took over on 29 May 2015 from Excelis.  On 1 July 2015 they did some "restructuring" which as I was told meant a bunch of Excelis folks being laid off, thereby reducing the workforce.  just thought id add that for anyone who may not have known the takeover date and or about the layoff of experienced employees that happened almost immediately after Harris took over.

Good to know, I never knew when the takeover happened.

I have a tube that needs ID'ed. From what I can read through the optic this is what I can see,

mfg 13576
403779
cad0017

Ya i thought it was something worth noting as it seemed like the exact takeover date wasnt clear and somewhat unknown by many.

Need a bit more info off the tube to give a positive ID on the tube. The data you were able to read and provide here onll tells that it is an ITT tube dated to the 17th week of 2000. date falls within the OMNi 5 contract era, but without knowing the actial contract number on the back the tube it cant be said that it is an Omni 5 era tube with any degree of certainty as the CAD doesnt always correlate with the tubes OMNI Contract number. often times tubes are made during more recent OMNI eras to fulfill a contract order from an Earlier OMNI Contract. So this makes using the CAD unreliable as a way to determine what OMNi a tube falls under to determine minimum spec requirements.

Bought an MX-10160 off the EE. ITTs website tells me it’s an autogated PINNACLE tube but I’m curious about when it was mfg if possible. There’s only 2 numbers on the tube.

F9800FG
Serial No. 3593406

You could try calling Harris. There's just not enough information based on what you posted.

This is the most info you’re going to get without an actual spec sheet. It’s a good tube.

Attached File

ITT serial numbers seem to roughly ascending over the years with large breaks in sequence.

From what I've seen, your tube is probably from late 2008.

I bought a used tube on eBay that came in an ENVIS housing.

It has the following information:

KM 272069-8
SN: 751225 DC 04 07

On the opposite side it has the following written on it in sharpie:

1466369 9801x e-1

Compared to my XD4 reject I got from chosos on EE, it has slightly higher resolution and a bit better extreme low light performance.  However not the large difference that I'd expect between a thinfilmed gen III and a ~XD4 tube.

From digging online, it seems to be a F9800 series tube.  Does anyone have anymore information on it?

Not much more info to add. ENVIS tubes are typically rejected ANVIS tubes. The rejection criteria was pretty stringent and was often for minor things like tiny blems. Otherwise they're very healthy and very nice tubes. They tend to be Omni 4 era thick film tubes with a DC power supply. Tough and nice tubes. I'd never look down on one.

Thinfilm, non-autogated, Select Alpha f9800. Not bad tubes, most of them are VERY clear in low-light. I wish I had the foresight to buy up every single envis I saw offered for sale years ago.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/armory/How-to-tell-what-type-of-tube-you-have/18-426658/?page=8#i4845738

MX-11769/UV
CAD 0824
MFR 13567
W15P7T-04-A-J208

See below

Could I get help with this one?

MX-10160A
Contract No - W15P7T-04-A-J208
ID No. 80063-A3256389
Warranty Exp Aug 07
CAD 0626
MFR 13567

Help with this?

http://i63.tinypic.com/120mngg.jpg

Could be under NSN 5855015489651?

ASSY 245180-907

The charts are under MX-10160B, but this has a WG designation

Looks like an L3 mx10160 auto-gain tube, and I'd suspect it's not a mx10160b, but a mx10160WG, which is actually an F9800WG. @DTSBlackout25 can probably expand upon this better.

Excellis manufacture, non-autogated. manufactured 26th week of 2006, delivered to the army.

awptickes,

Thank you.  I was also wondering which omni contract it would've fallen under.  I'm thinking Omni IV.

That was an omnibus 6 contract number, but where it gets odd is that the part number you posted is on the omnibus 4 and 5 contracts. Without seeing the actual BPA calls, I can't say for sure how that tube was ordered, and what the deal is with it. It's technically delivered under omnibus 6.

PN 80063-A3256389 was Omnibus 4 and 5. That wasn't specifically spelled out in omnibus 6, however, there were a number of AN/AVS-6 CLINs on that contract, so I suspect the MX-10160a tubes in those AN/AVS-6 devices were just pulled off the shelf because they met the omnibus 6 delivery order specifications already, and installed, shipped, and got accepted.

Thanks! Any info is much appreciated. I tried to reach out to DTSBlackout25 but the forum doesn't recognize him or a similar variation of that Username?

HelloLooks like the dash is missing between the DTS and The last part of my handle and thats why It wasnt recognized. It was close tho. Anyways what you have is a 10160WG or weapons grade tube installed in what looks like a pvs-15? Or 18? The picture was small on my phone and I couldnt tell which of those units it was installed in for sure. Anyways the qeapons grade L-3 tubes are basically the same as in comparison to similar L-3 non-weapons grade tubes except for that the halo will be much larger on the weapns grade.  the halo is dertermined by the distance between the MCP and the Photocathode. The farther the MCP is away from the PC the greater the halo value. The closer the MCP is to the PC the smalller the halo value. So weapons grade tubes have halo values much greater than the normal contract tubes becausethey are made for use in units mounted on a weapons platform. The reason halo value matters alot for tubes installed in weapon mounted systems is because of the way the mcp is secured inside the tube it is very rigid around the entire circumference, but thw center of the MCP is still flexible and can be forced backwards and or forwards from any type of lateral shock or force that is subjected to the tube,ssuch as recoil from a rifle that is caused by high pressure expelling gasses from the muzzle after the round exits. if the distance is very short between the MCP and The PC when the shock of the recoil is felt, it is very probable that if the recoil force is to great the MCP center will flex forward as the tube construct, that the MCP is secured inside of, is forced rearward. often this results in the mcp striking the photocathode and causing a large black burn mark in the center of the image, rendering it unusable in all likelyhood. If the tube has an ion barrier film their will also be a giant smear left around the burn mark in the center of the image causing the tube to be even more unusable than if it was formless usually. So there are weapons grade tubes made in order to reduce the chance of this happening. these tubes have larger halos than the normal.tubes and the halo size can be used to figure out roughly how much distance is between the PC and MCP. This can be done by taking the halo value of the tube and multiplying it by 4 or so times. This may not be exact, but should be close to the actual measurement. Also Autogated power suplies are not the best choice for weapon mounted tubes because the way an autogated tube works, in that it is constantly turning the tube on and off many times a second in order to keep the photocathode voltage at it optimum operating voltage to allow for greater resolution in high light environments, causes the gradient in the electrostatic field between the MCP and the PC to experience constant changes nstead of remaining constant like in a DC power supply. These changes in the electeostatic field are constantly pushing and pulling at the center of the MCP  causing the center to flex back and forth very rapidly at all times which causes the signature whine that is audible and heard cominf from most autogated tubes. So if the lateral force from a heavy recoil event coinsides with the forward flexion at the centerbof the MCP in an autogated tube then almost certainly their will be contact between the mcp and the Phtocathode and damge will occur. If a tube with an autogated power supply is going to be mounted on weapon chambered in 5.56 NATO/.223 REM then it should have a halo value of at least 1.30 and as the calibers of the rifle to be used get larger, so should the halo value of the tube. to use a tube with the least risk of damage  on a rigle chambered in 7.62 the halo value has to increase to around 1.65mm-1.75mm. And DC power supplies will always be the best choice for a tube that will see most of its use while mounted on a weapon.

Why a weapons grade tube would be installed in a pvs-15 is most likely because the original tube went bad and the WG tube was all that the person who did the swap had available at the time. What does the data label on the tube in the other side's MHA read?.

Any info?

Thanks again awptickes.

Any detailed info on the EXELIS NV5050A-X7C ??

It's in my Sightmark SM14064

Thanks,

Aaron

I have the Exelis NV5050A tube as well.  I read a response where it is autogated.  Is there any other info about them?  I purchased it in a Sightmark PVS14 LE version monocular.

Thanks for any info?  Just could find anything while looking it up.

Hello everyone,

I'm plannig to buy one of these units:

PVS 14

tube

MX11769/uv
ID No. 80063-A3297320
CONTR. NO. W9124Q-05-D-0821
MFR 13567
CAD 1538
WARRANTY EXP. MAR17
(Probably OMNI VII ag.)

OR

PVS 14

tube

MX11769/uv
ID NO. 80063-A3297320
CONTR. NO. M67854-03-C-6022
MFR 13567
CAD 0849
WARRANTY EXP. JAN10
(I'd not found any info on this tube.)

Which one would you take and why?
I like that top CAD 1538 tube more, because of newer mfg. date, but maybe, you'll have another feeling.
Thanks a lot for any opinion.

Cage 55311
Cad Warr EXP
Nsn 5855-01-504-4590
ID no. 80063-A-3297310
Mx11769 NV

Any info

I just bought a second hand PVS7. The unit looks in great condition and performs, I think, very well. The seller said it was a gen 3 unit but didn’t know much about it. He had also purchased it second hand and didn’t use it much. I took it apart today to see what type of tube it has since I thought it was not autogated but I hear a definite whine when it’s on. I heard that might mean it’s an autogated unit. When I took it apart I saw that the model information was scratched off. Tube looks in great condition and has no blemishes or issues thy I can’t tell. I really wish there was a way to know more about it.

https://ibb.co/dkNbf8

https://ibb.co/mErrDT

https://ibb.co/f6nWDT

https://ibb.co/d4xL7o

https://ibb.co/hTrf7o

https://image.ibb.co/bLU07o/IMG_2363.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/dcsL7o/IMG_2364.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/kbrDSo/IMG_2365.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/gdHbf8/IMG_2366.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/f9xL7o/IMG_2367.jpg

Well, theres only one reason I can think of that a tube would have its label removed and the serial number totally defaced from the side of the tube boot. Im not going to say what that reason is here, but the reason should be fairly obvious. With the tubes identifying data basically erased forever, the only way we could figure out exactly what it is wpuld be to pull the tube and power supply out of the outer boot and find the tube modules serial number and part number and the power supply's  serial number and part number and then go from there, but i dont think you or most would care enough about identifying the tube to get into it that deep as only a very select few of us have the skill and techniques perfected to be able to get the tube back together and working without issues and still look like a tube when all is said and done. So we can only know what we are able to easily observe to help us understand what we can about the tube and the rest we can only speculate on. We know that if it whines then it is deffinitely autogated. Im speculating now, however, from my experience rebuding image intensifiers I can say the tube looks to be an OMNI 7 or 8 tube as the backplate w/ the tube contacts appears to be newer production ITT style. Its just speculation as we cant be 100% sure due to the lack of avvailable data, but im fairly confident that you have an MX-10130D/UV made by ITT/Exelis/Harris.  the civilian version would be called F9810xx pinnacle which is autogated and has an MCP with a thin film ion barrier. Again that is based on what has been said in your post as well as my experienced based opinion based on what i am observing in the pictures. However, remember that we can not be 100% certain about the tubes identity without tearing the tube down and obtaining serial and part numbers from the PSU and tube module. So id say just use it and dont worry too much about the ID of the tube as it is unlikely you will ever find out for sure. Also if you go to sell it at any point, I dont reccomend advertising the tube as any specific tube as we really dont know what it is exactly. All we know for certain at this point is that it is an autogated MX-10130 format, 18mm, non-inverting, proximity focus, MCP image intensifier tube assembly.

Thanks for the help. I guess I got a good deal. I got it for under 1k

Has anyone heard of or seen anything about an ITT F9815XLS tube? I've seen other F9815 tubes with various characters for the last 3, but none with XLS. Just curious to know what this is. Autogated? Thin filmed? Pinnacle? I'm not sure.

have a look here - http://nvdevices.com/products/image-intensifier-tubes/f9800/

Anyone happen to know anything about Ekran FEP? I have a tube that I'm looking for info on. Ekran FEP IIT2GDX.

Can anyone tell me more about F9800HPA tubes?

Anyone happen to know anything about Ekran FEP? I have a tube that I'm looking for info on. Ekran FEP IIT2GDX

usually the russian tubes i have seen dont have letters like gdx   in the designation so perhaps those are named by the importers/ dealer ?

do you have a pic of the tube ?

I do not. I haven't taken the unit apart. It performs well, so I suppose that's all that really matters.

How about this one? I have the chance to buy it for a good price - hopefully good.
Is it a decent one?
Hope this is no export tube with low FOM. Can anyone help?

Many thanks

its not a low FOM tube, MX-0160B/AVS-6's are very High Fom tubes with FOMs reaching up to 2590 or so. However these are also quite prone to premature failure due to the filmless MCP having a flaw in which the MCP will let off positice ions during secondary electron emission. All positive ions were supposed to be Scrubbed from the MCP during manufacture of the tube, but alot of the MCP's used to build these tubes were not completely cleaned of these positive ions and thus positive ions are released during secondary electron emission and they reflect back onto the GaAs photocathode and cause positive ion poisioning of the photocathode. This eventually will render the tube unusable due to it not being able to form a usable image.

Everest tube im sure. Is there a little window on the output end of the power supply near where the pigtail connects to the PSU? If so its an Everest and will be autogated. Not alot of info I know of on the specs of these, but likely omni 8 equivalent is my thought.

ETA: Everest tubes are thin filmed autogated tubes and are like the pinnacle power supplies except that pinnacles were tuned for gain and ABC via potentiometers on the tube and pigtail. Tubes potted in an Everest power supply are tuned via a special programmer that connects to the tube via a wireless IR connection. That os what that little window on the back of the power supply is for. Everests dont hace adjustable trim potentiometers like the pinnacle and therefore are not user adjustable. You cant use a tiny flathead screwdriver to adjust everest tubes. They can only have the gain, ABC and some other perameters tuned by the manufacturer or someone with one of these programmers which are specific to the Everest power supplies.

I think this is the same tube that was on sale some months ago, and the price seemed really good. I saw only a few through the tube pics and while it didn't look bad, I thought it looked rather noisy so I'd have passed without seeing it in person. If it performs to the spec then the price would reflect that especially here in the EU.

I am not certain about a small window on the output side of the tube. It's in an OPMOD pvs-14 gen 3 Alpha that I purchased from optics planet. I contacted Armasight to get the spec sheet, and that was the model as indicated on the paperwork. The only thing I can see looking through the eyepiece lens is some letters and numbers that read 1130422CC.

Well its most likely an Everest tube. Of the Everest tubes ive  seen, so far they they all have a suffix that starys with an "X". As an example, one that I can recall off tje top of my head is 5050-X7G. if I recall correctly there arent any Pinnacles that have a suffix starting with an "X" like Xxx I dont think.

I see. It's a decent looking tube. Specs are Photocathode luminous: 2283, Halo: .91, EBI: .99, RES: 64, SNR: 29.9. So I suppose it performs well.

If a tube is an Everest it doesnt neccessarily mean it will have better performance than a Pinnacle Tube. Everest means it has a programmable autogated power supply and a thin film where Pinnacle means a tube has an autogated power supply and a thin film. So say you have two tube modules that have the exact performance specs. let say one is potted iin a Pinnacle PSU and the other is potted in an Everest PSU. The only difference is that the Everest can only be tuned at the Factory with an autogated PSU programming interface that connects to the tube via a wireless IR connection and cant have its gain and ABC settings adnusted by anyone with a small flat blade screwdriver, like the Pinnacles can. If the technician at tye factory who tubes the tubes after poting is good enough and cares enough to tune the PSU perameters to their optimal settings , they may be able to squeeze out a little extra performance over a pinnacle but not a huge amount. Also most tubes with programmable PSU's, including the new L-3 filmed and filmless tubes with the autogated programmable PSU's with removable pigtails, are tuned to "good enough" at the factory and can deffinitley be tuned further with more precision to improve performance of the tube overall a bit more. Sometimes the tubes get sent out after potting and they havent even been tubed yet. Pretty nuts.

Seller says it's OMNI VIII Filmless.

Cage 55311
ASSY 254890 can't read the rest
MX-10160/UV
13/04

Can't really get anything else without removing the tube.
Help?!

Hello guys,

can you help me please to identify this tube? All I know it is Litton civilian autogated filmless tube. Any suggestion what is manufacture date? Typical specs, typical FOM?

thank you for any answer.

regards, Milan

https://postimg.cc/image/xf157o1sh/

How would I go about identifying a tube that has nothing more than a serial number on the output end of the tube? All that is known about it is it's a gen 2 possibly Photonis(that is what I'm trying to find out) non gated and 11769 format(manual gain) in a pvs-14.

if you can post some pics of it - sometimes they can be identified partly by the style of the case etc.

Here are my tube details...does any one know what it is?

Tube: MX-11769/UV
Warranty Exp: SEP18
CAD: 1714
MFR: 13567
Serial #: 5149403
NSN #: 5855-01-504-4590
Contract #: W91CRB-11-D-0082
ID #: 80063-A3297320