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Posted: 8/29/2007 11:57:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: murderman]
There have been several threads in the past; here is a chance to consolidate current concepts for the topic.
Ballistic rig on the left, scout rig on the right. The plates are both bolted down to keep from changing position, with the top strap minimizing stress on that joint, as well as providing a very convenient place to ty-rap the Guardians. The MSA rig is balanced on a styrofoam mannequin head with the PVS both up and down; it is like that on a real head as well. 
Edited to add a couple shots with the CSM bracket: 
Updated with the do rag replacement pic. 
Latest mods...some paint and an M600C/KM2: 
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Posted: 6/3/2018 8:24:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4DoorEKk]
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee: Glynn is the best in the business IMO. Small company with items in stock ready to ship. No backorders or long waits. Had my dep echo WP mod 3s to me in about 4 days. Quality superb |
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Posted: 6/3/2018 8:55:45 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/3/2018 9:08:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee: Glynn is the best in the business IMO. Small company with items in stock ready to ship. No backorders or long waits. Had my dep echo WP mod 3s to me in about 4 days. Quality superb |
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Posted: 6/3/2018 9:10:09 AM EDT
[Last Edit: brodband8]
[#4]
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Posted: 6/3/2018 4:08:42 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: Glynn owns Night Vision Inc. and Longnight industries I believe is one of his ebay stores names, not to be confused with Ryan Hoover's Nightlong Industries. |
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Posted: 6/3/2018 5:44:41 PM EDT
[#6]
Just a quick post..... I've done business with both.
Ryan is extremely busy. He did my first MOD3, we had a miscommunication, but I let it go. When I wanted another MOD3, he ever replied to any messages. Went to Glynn and he has responded every time. Long story short, both are good/talented/smart, but I like Glynn more. |
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Posted: 6/4/2018 7:11:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4DoorEKk]
[#7]
Well Vic from TNVC contacted me and hopefully we can work out an expedited process. Not getting my hopes up. If they can’t meet my time frame I’ll most likely go to NVI. I just can’t wait 12 weeks. Either way, by the end of today I’ll have a DTNVG on the way!
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Posted: 6/4/2018 7:33:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrPlayer: I’m sure that’s was a complete accident.... |
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Posted: 6/4/2018 12:49:56 PM EDT
[#9]
I haven't actually purchased my set up from Glynn yet but I have spoken to him a bunch. He has been super helpful and has spent lots of time answering all of my questions. He will be building my DTNVG set up in a few months. His customer service is top notch, I'm looking forward to actually spending a ton of money and a nice set up from him.
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Posted: 6/4/2018 2:23:15 PM EDT
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TNVC gave me a deal I couldn’t pass up. Glad to give them my business again! WP DTNVG’s in my future!
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Posted: 6/4/2018 8:35:48 PM EDT
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I declare a FATWA on NV. I am going to make it happen I have the means I have had the itch for some time. This thread just pushed me more and more to the "Dark side" (yes pun intended). I see a pair of WP Sentinels in my future I have the helmet so it will happen.
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Posted: 6/4/2018 9:49:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4DoorEKk]
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild:
I declare a FATWA on NV. I am going to make it happen I have the means I have had the itch for some time. This thread just pushed me more and more to the "Dark side" (yes pun intended). I see a pair of WP Sentinels in my future I have the helmet so it will happen.
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Posted: 6/5/2018 11:21:49 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/5/2018 12:16:36 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryHe didn’t mention where those 31s came from. 
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Posted: 6/5/2018 12:38:25 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryHey-O! My old L4 G24 is famous! ~Augee |
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Posted: 6/5/2018 1:52:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Augee:
Hey-O! My old L4 G24 is famous! ~Augee Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Augee:
My old L4 G24 is famous! ~Augee 
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Posted: 6/5/2018 2:53:12 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
He didn’t mention where those 31s came from. |
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Posted: 6/5/2018 3:17:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
He didn’t mention where those 31s came from. |
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Posted: 6/5/2018 3:18:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild:
Chances are there is a company rep in this thread that can answer that question. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild:
Originally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
He didn’t mention where those 31s came from.
Anyways--re: PVS-31s, sure, they're the "new hotness" because they're the new USSOCOM goggle, but that doesn't necessarily always make them the best choice for civilian use, or even non-SOF use. Among other things, the fixed diopters are not necessarily you want on a goggle that multiple people will have to use, and they're supposed to have a pretty tight maintenance schedule that most people are not going to be able to adhere to--I'm using a pair currently, so I've got it, hahaha, but there are a lot of things to consider when buying a personally owned goggle. Just something to think about--life-cycle considerations aren't always considered, especially when you're looking at the newest and coolest issued equipment, and remember, they're switching to 31s from 15s.
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Posted: 6/6/2018 6:58:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4DoorEKk]
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Augee: It aint me, but for better or for worse, 31s aren't impossible to get--some more legitimately than others, I don't know GarandThumb personally or how he got his, I just realized that I'd sold one of my used L4 G24s to him when I saw the snakeskin spray paint residue on the mount that looked familiar, and checked my PayPal invoices to see that the name matched, I had no idea at the time.
Anyways--re: PVS-31s, sure, they're the "new hotness" because they're the new USSOCOM goggle, but that doesn't necessarily always make them the best choice for civilian use, or even non-SOF use. Among other things, the fixed diopters are not necessarily you want on a goggle that multiple people will have to use, and they're supposed to have a pretty tight maintenance schedule that most people are not going to be able to adhere to--I'm using a pair currently, so I've got it, hahaha, but there are a lot of things to consider when buying a personally owned goggle. Just something to think about--life-cycle considerations aren't always considered, especially when you're looking at the newest and coolest issued equipment, and remember, they're switching to 31s from 15s.
~Augee I get it. Went with a DTNV myself. GT is great and I follow him and watch his videos. Just curious, what is so ‘top secret’ about the 31s vs something available to us regular folk. Or is it just the hype? 
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Posted: 6/6/2018 10:41:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
I get it. Went with a DTNV myself. GT is great and I follow him and watch his videos. Just curious, what is so ‘top secret’ about the 31s vs something available to us regular folk. Or is it just the hype? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
Originally Posted By TNVC_Augee: It aint me, but for better or for worse, 31s aren't impossible to get--some more legitimately than others, I don't know GarandThumb personally or how he got his, I just realized that I'd sold one of my used L4 G24s to him when I saw the snakeskin spray paint residue on the mount that looked familiar, and checked my PayPal invoices to see that the name matched, I had no idea at the time.
Anyways--re: PVS-31s, sure, they're the "new hotness" because they're the new USSOCOM goggle, but that doesn't necessarily always make them the best choice for civilian use, or even non-SOF use. Among other things, the fixed diopters are not necessarily you want on a goggle that multiple people will have to use, and they're supposed to have a pretty tight maintenance schedule that most people are not going to be able to adhere to--I'm using a pair currently, so I've got it, hahaha, but there are a lot of things to consider when buying a personally owned goggle. Just something to think about--life-cycle considerations aren't always considered, especially when you're looking at the newest and coolest issued equipment, and remember, they're switching to 31s from 15s.
~Augee I get it. Went with a DTNV myself. GT is great and I follow him and watch his videos. Just curious, what is so ‘top secret’ about the 31s vs something available to us regular folk. Or is it just the hype? I see it allot like MAP pricing. If a company sells a product that is held to a MAP pricing then they have to sell at that price or face being dropped from carrying that product. Of course that’s the simple of it. The grey area is they can sell cheaper than advertised if they want but it has to be more out of the public eye. So if you can find a dealer that will do that with 31’s then you can get a set. You can also buy them second hand which a few places I know have second hand 31’s at a steep price. At least in my limited knowledge on the subject that’s kind of how it works. Maybe not but that’s how I see it. I prefer to try and ignore the new hotness only becuse im kind of poor and it’s a bit of a waist of money off the get go. That said we in the gun world do like the new hotness and love getting things that are hard to get and have more prestige I think. |
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Posted: 6/6/2018 12:16:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By great308: Nothing top secret about 31’s from what I understand. It’s more of a manufacturer that has a policy to not sell to the public. I’m guessing it has to do with filling orders for the mil/le side of things. If I ever got a gov contract for my insignificant business I’d probably do the same thing so I could focus on fulfilling that contract to the best of my ability. That’s kind of a bad example I guess because they are not exactly a small company. I see it allot like MAP pricing. If a company sells a product that is held to a MAP pricing then they have to sell at that price or face being dropped from carrying that product. Of course that’s the simple of it. The grey area is they can sell cheaper than advertised if they want but it has to be more out of the public eye. So if you can find a dealer that will do that with 31’s then you can get a set. You can also buy them second hand which a few places I know have second hand 31’s at a steep price. At least in my limited knowledge on the subject that’s kind of how it works. Maybe not but that’s how I see it. I prefer to try and ignore the new hotness only becuse im kind of poor and it’s a bit of a waist of money off the get go. That said we in the gun world do like the new hotness and love getting things that are hard to get and have more prestige I think. |
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Posted: 6/7/2018 4:45:54 PM EDT
[#23]
I would guess that most of what has been said about companies placing priority of filling.Gov contracts ahead of releasing to civ market is true. That's probably why you see a lot of the NV stuff on TNVC site as MIL/LEO only.
I don't disagree with it because let's be honest those contracts are going to make them more than the cover market. Also it was mentioned in GT video that the quad nods (my term I don't recall the proper name) are 40K+ is that true? I couldn't afford them to begin with but that is pricey. |
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Posted: 6/7/2018 8:18:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By voodochild:
I would guess that most of what has been said about companies placing priority of filling.Gov contracts ahead of releasing to civ market is true. That's probably why you see a lot of the NV stuff on TNVC site as MIL/LEO only. I don't disagree with it because let's be honest those contracts are going to make them more than the cover market. Also it was mentioned in GT video that the quad nods (my term I don't recall the proper name) are 40K+ is that true? I couldn't afford them to begin with but that is pricey. |
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Posted: 6/7/2018 8:47:39 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
They’re called the GPNV Ground Panaoramic Night Vision and I’ve heard they are around $32k. |
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Posted: 6/10/2018 11:58:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/10/2018 12:33:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378:
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Posted: 6/10/2018 12:55:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fivefivesixphoto:
You went the same route i did! Cheap name tag lanyard. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fivefivesixphoto:
Originally Posted By Conner378:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/448813/6ECDD75B-45C8-4F8E-978C-A1DC7387F37C-571324.JPG I've lost my security ID too many times with those. I prefer a piece of shock cord with an s clip but that's just me 
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Posted: 6/10/2018 2:32:03 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conner378:
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Posted: 6/13/2018 12:05:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: M4AZ]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fivefivesixphoto: You went the same route i did! Cheap name tag lanyard.
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Posted: 6/14/2018 9:06:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4DoorEKk]
[#31]
I am in love all over again. Thanks TNVC! DTNV L3WP-
Everything about this unit is awesome! The WP tubes are absolutely amazing and going from a single tube to duals is such an incredible difference.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 6/14/2018 9:11:21 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/14/2018 10:42:17 PM EDT
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Quote History@4DoorEKk Very nice setup, I can’t wait until I get a set.
How much is the difference for you, going from the green to white? I already know that duals are way better than singles. |
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Posted: 6/15/2018 6:44:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
@4DoorEKk Very nice setup, I can’t wait until I get a set. How much is the difference for you, going from the green to white? I already know that duals are way better than singles.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/15/2018 10:33:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ECPrevatte]
[#35]
Switched to a maritime. Now it's a lot better with Peltors flipped down for me personally. Parts: - Sentinels by Nightlong Industries - Ops Core Maritime - Custom Counterweight/battery holster - S&S Manta - Peltor Comtacs - Wilcox GSGM |
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Posted: 6/16/2018 1:12:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/880/41904533805_9123d7658b_b.jpg Switched to a maritime. Now it's a lot better with Peltors flipped down for me personally. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 9:37:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4DoorEKk]
[#37]
WP DTNV is amazing! Ditched the MC cover again, can’t make up my mind...
 Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File@bcauz3y sorry bro, It’s a few pages ago. Here’s the latest: -Ops Core FAST Ballistic helmet -Extra added ops core tan velcro -TNVC Mohawk Mk1 Multicam (extra batteries, 2/4 .25 oz counterweights) -MS2000 strobe in eBay MC pouch -Vlite IR strobe -Peltor Comtac 2 dual com on ARC rail adaptors (cut my own velcro for them) -Perroz Deisgns Multicam IR flag patches, Blood type/ allergy patches, and mini Multicam IR flag patch on peltors; punisher patch from tactical shit -Wilcox Industries L4 shroud with lanyard -Wilcox L4 g24 Mount tan TNVC/ ACT DTNVG with White Phosphorus L3 tubes And I believe that’s it. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 10:31:26 AM EDT
[#38]
I wish ya'll would post part lists with your pics.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 11:50:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Kwikvette]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcauz3y:
I wish ya'll would post part lists with your pics. (Old) Ops Core Carbon (tan) Team Wendy EPIC Air pads Team Wendy H-back suspension A/B Mod3B's with ANVS 9 lenses L4 G24 Wilcox mount (tan) Peltor Comtac III's Peltor Arc adapters TNVC Mohawk S&S Manta strobe Princeton Swith Rail light (Current) Team Wendy Ballistic (black) A/B Mod3B's with ANVS9 lenses L4 G24 Wilcox mount (black) Peltor Comtac III's Team Wendy adapters EOG slim counter-weight S&S Manta strobe |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:01:29 PM EDT
[#40]
Thanks @Kwikvette
I swear my comtacs are black, but they might be IIs? |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:27:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte:
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/880/41904533805_9123d7658b_b.jpg Switched to a maritime. Now it's a lot better with Peltors flipped down for me personally. Parts: - Sentinels by Nightlong Industries - Ops Core Maritime - Custom Counterweight/battery holster - S&S Manta - Peltor Comtacs - Wilcox GSGM Ive seen various sentinels with pvs-14 objectives and avs objectives. What lenses are yours? |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:29:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
@bcauz3y sorry bro, It’s a few pages ago. Here’s the latest: -Ops Core FAST Ballistic helmet -Extra added ops core tan velcro -TNVC Mohawk Mk1 Multicam (extra batteries, 2/4 .25 oz counterweights) -MS2000 strobe in eBay MC pouch -Vlite IR strobe -Peltor Comtac 2 dual com on ARC rail adaptors (cut my own velcro for them) -Perroz Deisgns Multicam IR flag patches, Blood type/ allergy patches, and mini Multicam IR flag patch on peltors; punisher patch from tactical shit -Wilcox Industries L4 shroud with lanyard -Wilcox L4 g24 Mount tan TNVC/ ACT DTNVG with White Phosphorus L3 tubes And I believe that’s it. I'm currently spec'ing out WP binos and a helmet w\trimmings. Sitting on about a $15k budget and just want to make sure I don't fuck it up and buy a bunch of stuff I'm going to hate. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:50:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 4DoorEKk]
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcauz3y: Thank you! I'm currently spec'ing out WP binos and a helmet w\trimmings. Sitting on about a $15k budget and just want to make sure I don't fuck it up and buy a bunch of stuff I'm going to hate.
I originally wanted to go with a MOD3 to have the ability to share with a friend but someone on here made a good point, once your using duals your not going to want to sacrifice one for a cheap friend! Haha. I originally planned on a green tubed DT but I got an awesome deal on a WP tubed unit and I am so EXTREMELY happy I went WP. I had an ITT tubed -14 first and the two don’t even compare in my book. |
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:57:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
WP DTNVG FTW!
I originally wanted to go with a MOD3 to have the ability to share with a friend but someone on here made a good point, once your using duals your not going to want to sacrifice one for a cheap friend! Haha. I originally planned on a green tubed DT but I got an awesome deal on a WP tubed unit and I am so EXTREMELY happy I went WP. I had an ITT tubed -14 first and the two don’t even compare in my book.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 12:59:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
WP DTNVG FTW!
I originally wanted to go with a MOD3 to have the ability to share with a friend but someone on here made a good point, once your using duals your not going to want to sacrifice one for a cheap friend! Haha. I originally planned on a green tubed DT but I got an awesome deal on a WP tubed unit and I am so EXTREMELY happy I went WP. I had an ITT tubed -14 first and the two don’t even compare in my book. .
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Posted: 6/18/2018 1:05:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TATBME:
Time to update that profile pic .
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Posted: 6/18/2018 1:25:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TNVC_Augee]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
I originally wanted to go with a MOD3 to have the ability to share with a friend but someone on here made a good point, once your using duals your not going to want to sacrifice one for a cheap friend! Haha.
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Posted: 6/18/2018 1:34:34 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Augee: This is how I ended up with a second set of duals... after having already got MOD-3s.
~Augee
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Posted: 6/19/2018 7:54:34 PM EDT
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Any info on the new goggle for Marsoc/ Recon? They’re calling it the BNVD II. My guess is a Pvs-15 with WP tubes and a COTI. They mention the WP and COTI but no pics.
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Posted: 6/19/2018 8:32:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 4DoorEKk:
Any info on the new goggle for Marsoc/ Recon? They’re calling it the BNVD II. My guess is a Pvs-15 with WP tubes and a COTI. They mention the WP and COTI but no pics. |
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