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Posted: 1/3/2020 10:43:50 AM EDT

I have two guns I have been offered in trade for a springfield 1911a1.

One is a 91/59 mosin and the other is a Yugo 24/47. I have both basic platforms (full sized mosin and a k98 mauser) in my collection as I am trying to collect ww2 era guns. I wanted one gun from each of the major countries that were in the war. These honestly don't do much for me but if they are a good trade I am interested in that.

Thoughts?

Posted: 1/3/2020 11:12:06 AM EDT

[#1]

Milsurps will appreciate in value. 1911s are going to stay flat.

Posted: 1/3/2020 11:18:38 AM EDT

[#2]

Look at where cheap M44s were at one time, now look at prices, im guessing other C&R is the same. I could dig thru a barrel and pull out a “shootable” M44 for 50 bux

Posted: 1/3/2020 11:40:53 AM EDT

[#3]

Yeah I goofed up and should have bought a couple barrels back in the day. Oh well...

I honestly don't need any of those for the collection. I know this is an open ended question, but what if the value of each in good condition?

Posted: 1/3/2020 12:11:34 PM EDT

[#4]

Both of those together probably aren't worth what your 1911A1 is worth. Bad trade.

Posted: 1/3/2020 12:12:12 PM EDT

[#5]

The Yugos are pretty stagnant in value, around $300 or so. The fact that they were never really used attributes to that I think. I enjoy shooting my K98 far more.

Posted: 1/3/2020 12:19:07 PM EDT

[#6]

Thanks. I was valuing the 1911 at 600 ish.

Posted: 1/3/2020 1:30:23 PM EDT

[#7]

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Milsurps will appreciate in value. 1911s are going to stay flat.

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This.

Your 1911 isn’t collectible...yet. By the time it is, what will the rifles be worth?

I don’t think either of those rifles will skyrocket. Both were imported in large numbers and it isn’t like they break and get thrown away. But there’s probably a little more headroom in them.

It may come down to shooting enjoyment, however. If the rifles aren’t really turning your crank, will you shoot the 1911 enough to enjoy it more? Or is it just sitting there in your safe next to other 1911’s and not being shot?

Posted: 1/3/2020 1:54:11 PM EDT

[#8]

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Your 1911 isn’t collectible...yet. By the time it is, what will the rifles be worth?

I don’t think either of those rifles will skyrocket. Both were imported in large numbers and it isn’t like they break and get thrown away. But there’s probably a little more headroom in them.

It may come down to shooting enjoyment, however. If the rifles aren’t really turning your crank, will you shoot the 1911 enough to enjoy it more? Or is it just sitting there in your safe next to other 1911’s and not being shot?

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It's just sitting there. I bought it years ago and have maybe shot 100 rounds through it. I have a CMP 1911 now.

Posted: 1/3/2020 2:16:03 PM EDT

[#9]

Neither rifle was likely to have been used in WW2, the M91/59's were chopped down after the war. I'd skip on them.

Posted: 1/3/2020 9:09:35 PM EDT

[#10]

Combined value of both rifles on today's market would be $500-700 depending on condition. The trade would be about even or advantageous for you if you have a GI or Mil Spec SA.

Both rifles could have seen use during WWII in their previous M91/30 and M24 configurations.

Posted: 1/3/2020 9:24:56 PM EDT

[#11]

91/59 are about 400+. Yugo is $300 maybe

Posted: 1/3/2020 10:15:44 PM EDT

[#12]

Thanks guys. I passed on the trade. I ended up selling the 1911 and I am picking up a US army M17 I found locally.

Posted: 1/4/2020 9:49:35 PM EDT

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Neither rifle was likely to have been used in WW2, the M91/59's were chopped down after the war. I'd skip on them.

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This, neither is a WWII gun...both modified after WWII...

Posted: 1/6/2020 4:52:04 PM EDT

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91/59 are about 400+. Yugo is $300 maybe

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Wow, are they that expensive these days? I got mine for well less than 1/2 that.

Posted: 1/6/2020 4:55:37 PM EDT

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Neither rifle was likely to have been used in WW2, the M91/59's were chopped down after the war. I'd skip on them.

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A 91/59 was unlikely to have been used in that configuration in WWII, but from my understanding they were often cut down from 91/30s which most likely did see action in WWII, albiet maybe in back units. Of course they were re-arsenaled, refinished and rebuilt after the war like a lot of the Mosins were. The USSR was so strapped for rifles duing WWII that it was unlikely that very many of anything in 7.62x54R didn't see some kind of service in those days.

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