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Posted: 9/18/2011 6:36:10 PM EDT
Who else makes a pack like THIS . I really like the concept so I can ditch the standard assault pack for something a little bit more mission specific.
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The new first spear pack is pretty cool. It will attach and quick detach too. Also Eagle makes the YOTE and the MAP. (the MAP is more of a Hydration carrier with space.)
The PIG line is always expanding too but nothing coming out to fit your needs in the near future. First Spear ECP SOS |
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The new first spear pack is pretty cool. It will attach and quick detach too. Also Eagle makes the YOTE and the MAP. (the MAP is more of a Hydration carrier with space.) The PIG line is always expanding too but nothing coming out to fit your needs in the near future. First Spear ECP SOS Maybe this should be some motivation |
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Please don't bombard me with a million questions, but the PIG modular assault pack/ hydro carrier will debut in about 6-8 weeks. I'll have some pics up on our industry page when I get my hands on the final version.
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Please don't bombard me with a million questions, but the PIG modular assault pack/ hydro carrier will debut in about 6-8 weeks. I'll have some pics up on our industry page when I get my hands on the final version. SOS You opened up the floodgates there! |
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Please don't bombard me with a million questions, but the PIG modular assault pack/ hydro carrier will debut in about 6-8 weeks. I'll have some pics up on our industry page when I get my hands on the final version. SOS *very* interested in this one... I have tried quite a few odf the small assulat packs out and none have quite been to my liking, very curious to see what you have come up with! |
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Please don't bombard me with a million questions, but the PIG modular assault pack/ hydro carrier will debut in about 6-8 weeks. I'll have some pics up on our industry page when I get my hands on the final version. SOS You opened up the floodgates there! |
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Yeah.... I know. We have a lot of irons in the fire with the PIG line as we continue to expand it. Trust me, right before a release of a new product I get pretty antsy, probably more so than our PIG fans.
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In the words of magpul in 2007"we're coming out with this rifle called the Masada, but don't keep bothering us about it". ;)
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Kifaru E&E pack
I own one that I mount directly to my CIRAS. That way I have the ability to dump my vest and just run with the pack. |
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Kifaru E&E pack I own one that I mount directly to my CIRAS. That way I have the ability to dump my vest and just run with the pack. Yep, I have one too. The Tactical Tailor offering looks like a cool little pack with more features than the Kifaru at the same price. I got the Kifaru because it was used, and because I have a TON of Kifaru stuff. |
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Kifaru E&E pack I own one that I mount directly to my CIRAS. That way I have the ability to dump my vest and just run with the pack. Yep, I have one too. The Tactical Tailor offering looks like a cool little pack with more features than the Kifaru at the same price. I got the Kifaru because it was used, and because I have a TON of Kifaru stuff. I have a Kifaru showing up next Monday, and I plan on ordeering a TT pack to do a head to head coparison. I also have a Hawkepak 24 pack, and an Eagle Yote and a Ares Combat XII. Of the three I have, all three leave something to be desired (Hawkepak has best layout but crappy, primitive straps, Eagle Yote is heavy and fixed config, Ares layout is a bit funky.) Hoping to find the "just right" pack, I may have to just have one knocked out. The First Spear looks nice, but the $230 price tag is not in line with all the other "light assault pack" designs IMHO. |
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Combat XII Pack Easy to Attach and Great Design
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In the words of magpul in 2007"we're coming out with this rifle called the Masada, but don't keep bothering us about it". ;) Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Ouch! While I'm a huge fan of Magpul, and I'm sure there are factors, way out of their control, for the delayed release of the Masada but if any of our designs take that long I will boil the first one made and eat it on youtube for everyone to see. Bet no other company has offered to physically eat a product if it can't be released in a timely manner - BTW SKD probably won't sign off on me eating a PIG assault pack but I'll do it on my own dime if that day comes. As far as Kifaru's E&E pack, you guys will love it. I own three packs from Kifaru and love each one. They have a few deployments in them and other than my krylon camo jobs on them still look and work perfectly. SOS |
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I was just pointing out that saying something is coming out around here is like leaving a trash can out with no lid in the mountains, the bears are coming
I have an old Generation 1 E&E it's fine, I still want to see this new thing you guys have. That Ares armor pack is available from somewhere with matching ATACS molle, I resisted the urge but a neat looking little pack |
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The matching webbing rocks. Perhaps it is overkill with all your pouches and loaded on, but it looks good when you are going with the pack alone.
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I have never been a big fan of assault-packs, or similar-sized objects, that attach directly to vests/plate carriers/etc., for a variety of reasons.
Generally speaking, they are not so easy to attach while wearing the carrier. Most are easy enough to detach, but without a buddy handy, re-attaching them is problematic unless the carrier is doffed to do so. Sometimes that might not be practical. If you are on the run, it is a lot easier and quicker to don a shoulder-strapped assault pack than to re-attach one to your carrier. Secondly, if the carried object lacks shoulder straps, that obviously lessens its' versatility. You cannot wear it unless you wear the carrier with matching QD buckles. If optional shoulder straps can be attached, then you have the added complexity of QD buckles for the shoulder straps, and possibly added expense, as opposed to an object with simpler, dedicated shoulder straps. Speaking of QD buckles, wearing a heavily-loaded 3-day pack might be getting close to the weight limits on some, standard QD buckles. It's been done, but note that fastex makes a QD buckle (not easily found) that is intended for greater weights than the usual QD buckle. "SnapDragons", IIRC. I have some, and they are FAR stronger than standard QD buckles, for a very slight weight increase––a few grams, I suppose. Frankly, and IMHO, It seems to me to be less of a bother and more versatile to use an assault pack with decent, fairly thin shoulder straps. I understand that as-configured, some rigs make shoulder straps problematic; in that instance, I would suggest re-thinking the rig's layout so that shoulder straps are not a precluded option. In the event that shoulder straps are not at all an option, the wise person would make sure to have a couple of male and female field-expedient replacement QD buckles always on hand. Stashing then in the bottom of the detachable object might be a good idea. If you do buy a pack or other object that attaches directly to your carrier, I urge you to pick up an inexpensive pair of surplus ALICE shoulder straps. The LC-1 version (most common) stinks when wearing a full ALICE pack, but they have plenty of padding for most smaller objects. Lots of other vendors/mfrs offer similar, often on sale. These shoulder straps can easily be configured with QD buckles to attach to your object, and experimenting with this inexpensive alternative might be worthwhile. Make sure to add a sternum strap; some webbing, a QD buckle, and a couple of tri-glides is all that is required to do so, and it makes a world of difference. Mandatory, really. YMMV. |
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This has my intrest as I have had thoughts on something like this. I know its more of a nitch thing but I have several times, just loaded up my water bladder pouch with extra gear. I have found a few times, I have had to do 8-12 hour foot patrols and just liked having the extra gear. In the sense of working in the desrt during the winter, some extra shirts for the cold, a MRE or two, some basic extra survival gear and throw in a some water bottles. Nothing I would need in a urgent matter or nothing my partner couldnt get out for me. I have plenty of packs, but all too big that got in the way more with the straps etc. Or add to the bulk in the back because running with a full vest and plate is a pain, let alone trying to work through very hostile bush county, smaller profile the better. [EDIT] Its my 556 post. Hell yeah. |
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YAKRAT, who makes that small admin pouch on the front? I like that.
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Looks like a Milspec Monkey patch panel. That it is. Other admin pouches were always a little too big for my needs and this is nice and slim. I usually have a slim sharpie and a pen in the PALS loops to the left of it. |
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I have a Kifaru E &E and a Tactical Tailor whatever theirs is called. I've only used them on packs but they have some utility in being able to unclip the smaller pack and reattach it.
The tactical tailor one did get a rip in the partition between the two sections and it wasn't like I had a bunch of rocks or knives in there.
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I have a Kifaru E &E and a Tactical Tailor whatever theirs is called. I've only used them on packs but they have some utility in being able to unclip the smaller pack and reattach it. The tactical tailor one did get a rip in the partition between the two sections and it wasn't like I had a bunch of rocks or knives in there. I know you have a self-admitted fetish for assault packs. Here's your go-to Spec-Ops, SEAL, UDT pack:http://www.unclesamsretailoutlet.com/US-Military-SOF-Water-resistant-Backpack-CBR-Bag-8465015005484.html. |
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Looks like a Milspec Monkey patch panel. That it is. Other admin pouches were always a little too big for my needs and this is nice and slim. I usually have a slim sharpie and a pen in the PALS loops to the left of it. Does anyone have the Ares Raider Admin pouch. Looks simple enough, but I can't get a gauge on size from the photo. |
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I have the TT operator removeable pack and the kifaru E&E. The TT pack sits real low on your vest because the mounting attachments are at the top of the pack, as opposed to the sides like the E&E. I would say the ares pack is the easiest to attach/detach yourself, a teammate had one. When you are wearing body armor with a decent weighted pack on you pretty much lose the use of your arms in about an hour. All of these packs are pretty awesome at relieving cut off circulation at the shoulders while doing long movements with body armor on. SORD makes a decent one also. Another benefit is the ability to clip these packs on to rucksacks and carry both. I used the clip on packs as demo bags carrying my explosives and clipped them to my armor, but needed to be able to clip them to my ruck comfortable to get where I was going first. I was given the tactical tailor pack but bought the kifaru because it is much better IMO, it sits higher, the weight is distributed better, and it clips onto your pack a lot tighter. Tactical tailor operator: http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/100_1818-Copy.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/IMGP0070.jpg Kifaru E&E http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1116.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1227.jpg I don't understand why a pack with shoulder straps worn over armor carrier would cut off circulation ot one's arms vs. the same-weight pacl attached directly to the armor carrier. As a matter of simple physics, the shoulder straps of a pack, assuming they are the same width as the shoulder tops of the armor carrier, and when riding on top of the armor carrier, should have their weight/pressure distributed by the shoulder portions of the armor carrier. The net weight on the user's shoulders ought to be identical in both instances. If the pack's shoulder straps should slide off the armor carrier, then I can see a problem developing. OTOH, sternum straps, adjusted properly should avoid such a problem. Maybe I am missing something, and perhaps you can educate me. |
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I have the TT operator removeable pack and the kifaru E&E. The TT pack sits real low on your vest because the mounting attachments are at the top of the pack, as opposed to the sides like the E&E. I would say the ares pack is the easiest to attach/detach yourself, a teammate had one. When you are wearing body armor with a decent weighted pack on you pretty much lose the use of your arms in about an hour. All of these packs are pretty awesome at relieving cut off circulation at the shoulders while doing long movements with body armor on. SORD makes a decent one also. Another benefit is the ability to clip these packs on to rucksacks and carry both. I used the clip on packs as demo bags carrying my explosives and clipped them to my armor, but needed to be able to clip them to my ruck comfortable to get where I was going first. I was given the tactical tailor pack but bought the kifaru because it is much better IMO, it sits higher, the weight is distributed better, and it clips onto your pack a lot tighter. Tactical tailor operator: http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/100_1818-Copy.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/IMGP0070.jpg Kifaru E&E http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1116.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1227.jpg I don't understand why a pack with shoulder straps worn over armor carrier would cut off circulation ot one's arms vs. the same-weight pacl attached directly to the armor carrier. As a matter of simple physics, the slender shoulder straps of a pack, riding on top of the armor carrier, should have their weight/pressure distributed by the shoulder portions of the armor carrier. If the pack's shoulder straps should slide off the armor carrier, then I can see a problem developing. OTOH, sternum straps, adjusted properly should avoid such a problem. Maybe I am missing something, and perhaps you can educate me. When a ruck sack is properly tightened, the shoulder straps run under the arms, not just over the armor. I can't describe it if you haven't experienced it, but it sucks. |
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Quoted: I have the TT operator removeable pack and the kifaru E&E. The TT pack sits real low on your vest because the mounting attachments are at the top of the pack, as opposed to the sides like the E&E. I would say the ares pack is the easiest to attach/detach yourself, a teammate had one. When you are wearing body armor with a decent weighted pack on you pretty much lose the use of your arms in about an hour. All of these packs are pretty awesome at relieving cut off circulation at the shoulders while doing long movements with body armor on. SORD makes a decent one also. Another benefit is the ability to clip these packs on to rucksacks and carry both. I used the clip on packs as demo bags carrying my explosives and clipped them to my armor, but needed to be able to clip them to my ruck comfortable to get where I was going first. I was given the tactical tailor pack but bought the kifaru because it is much better IMO, it sits higher, the weight is distributed better, and it clips onto your pack a lot tighter. Tactical tailor operator: http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/100_1818-Copy.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/IMGP0070.jpg Kifaru E&E http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1116.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1227.jpg Interesting, yeah the TT kind of dangles down from the upper attachments. I've only used them attached to larger packs. My TT had the interior material between the two sections rip and that was through really very little use and there was nothing particularly hard or sharp in there. The TT does seem bigger than the Kifaru but the Kifaru rides great for a small little bag |
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I have the TT operator removeable pack and the kifaru E&E. The TT pack sits real low on your vest because the mounting attachments are at the top of the pack, as opposed to the sides like the E&E. I would say the ares pack is the easiest to attach/detach yourself, a teammate had one. When you are wearing body armor with a decent weighted pack on you pretty much lose the use of your arms in about an hour. All of these packs are pretty awesome at relieving cut off circulation at the shoulders while doing long movements with body armor on. SORD makes a decent one also. Another benefit is the ability to clip these packs on to rucksacks and carry both. I used the clip on packs as demo bags carrying my explosives and clipped them to my armor, but needed to be able to clip them to my ruck comfortable to get where I was going first. I was given the tactical tailor pack but bought the kifaru because it is much better IMO, it sits higher, the weight is distributed better, and it clips onto your pack a lot tighter. Tactical tailor operator: http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/100_1818-Copy.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/IMGP0070.jpg Kifaru E&E http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1116.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1227.jpg I don't understand why a pack with shoulder straps worn over armor carrier would cut off circulation ot one's arms vs. the same-weight pacl attached directly to the armor carrier. As a matter of simple physics, the slender shoulder straps of a pack, riding on top of the armor carrier, should have their weight/pressure distributed by the shoulder portions of the armor carrier. If the pack's shoulder straps should slide off the armor carrier, then I can see a problem developing. OTOH, sternum straps, adjusted properly should avoid such a problem. Maybe I am missing something, and perhaps you can educate me. When a ruck sack is properly tightened, the shoulder straps run under the arms, not just over the armor. I can't describe it if you haven't experienced it, but it sucks. I'm not trying to dog you, but trying to understand. I've worn my 3-day pack, over Interceptor armor plarform, for a day's worth of hiking with minor discomfort. I think the use of the sternum strap essential in maintaining user comfort, and failure to use it is asking for big trouble. For that matter, I've worn MOLLE GI and CFP-90 heavy packs over same platform, and have not encountered arm numbness. Again, use of a tight sternum strap seems to make a big difference. Your thoughts? |
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I have the TT operator removeable pack and the kifaru E&E. The TT pack sits real low on your vest because the mounting attachments are at the top of the pack, as opposed to the sides like the E&E. I would say the ares pack is the easiest to attach/detach yourself, a teammate had one. When you are wearing body armor with a decent weighted pack on you pretty much lose the use of your arms in about an hour. All of these packs are pretty awesome at relieving cut off circulation at the shoulders while doing long movements with body armor on. SORD makes a decent one also. Another benefit is the ability to clip these packs on to rucksacks and carry both. I used the clip on packs as demo bags carrying my explosives and clipped them to my armor, but needed to be able to clip them to my ruck comfortable to get where I was going first. I was given the tactical tailor pack but bought the kifaru because it is much better IMO, it sits higher, the weight is distributed better, and it clips onto your pack a lot tighter. Tactical tailor operator: http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/100_1818-Copy.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/IMGP0070.jpg Kifaru E&E http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1116.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1227.jpg I don't understand why a pack with shoulder straps worn over armor carrier would cut off circulation ot one's arms vs. the same-weight pacl attached directly to the armor carrier. As a matter of simple physics, the slender shoulder straps of a pack, riding on top of the armor carrier, should have their weight/pressure distributed by the shoulder portions of the armor carrier. If the pack's shoulder straps should slide off the armor carrier, then I can see a problem developing. OTOH, sternum straps, adjusted properly should avoid such a problem. Maybe I am missing something, and perhaps you can educate me. When a ruck sack is properly tightened, the shoulder straps run under the arms, not just over the armor. I can't describe it if you haven't experienced it, but it sucks. I'm not trying to dog you, but trying to understand. I've worn my 3-day pack, over Interceptor armor plarform, for a day's worth of hiking with minor discomfort. I think the use of the sternum strap essential in maintaining user comfort, and failure to use it is asking for big trouble. For that matter, I've worn MOLLE GI and CFP-90 heavy packs over same platform, and have not encountered arm numbness. Again, use of a tight sternum strap seems to make a big difference. Your thoughts? You make a good point. Proper use of sternum strap or waist strap makes a big difference. I would also say that it's a moot point with a low weight day-type pack. A loaded down large rucksack may cause numbness but we're not talking about those. |
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I have the TT operator removeable pack and the kifaru E&E. The TT pack sits real low on your vest because the mounting attachments are at the top of the pack, as opposed to the sides like the E&E. I would say the ares pack is the easiest to attach/detach yourself, a teammate had one. When you are wearing body armor with a decent weighted pack on you pretty much lose the use of your arms in about an hour. All of these packs are pretty awesome at relieving cut off circulation at the shoulders while doing long movements with body armor on. SORD makes a decent one also. Another benefit is the ability to clip these packs on to rucksacks and carry both. I used the clip on packs as demo bags carrying my explosives and clipped them to my armor, but needed to be able to clip them to my ruck comfortable to get where I was going first. I was given the tactical tailor pack but bought the kifaru because it is much better IMO, it sits higher, the weight is distributed better, and it clips onto your pack a lot tighter. Tactical tailor operator: http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/100_1818-Copy.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/IMGP0070.jpg Kifaru E&E http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1116.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1227.jpg I don't understand why a pack with shoulder straps worn over armor carrier would cut off circulation ot one's arms vs. the same-weight pacl attached directly to the armor carrier. As a matter of simple physics, the slender shoulder straps of a pack, riding on top of the armor carrier, should have their weight/pressure distributed by the shoulder portions of the armor carrier. If the pack's shoulder straps should slide off the armor carrier, then I can see a problem developing. OTOH, sternum straps, adjusted properly should avoid such a problem. Maybe I am missing something, and perhaps you can educate me. When a ruck sack is properly tightened, the shoulder straps run under the arms, not just over the armor. I can't describe it if you haven't experienced it, but it sucks. I'm not trying to dog you, but trying to understand. I've worn my 3-day pack, over Interceptor armor plarform, for a day's worth of hiking with minor discomfort. I think the use of the sternum strap essential in maintaining user comfort, and failure to use it is asking for big trouble. For that matter, I've worn MOLLE GI and CFP-90 heavy packs over same platform, and have not encountered arm numbness. Again, use of a tight sternum strap seems to make a big difference. Your thoughts? You make a good point. Proper use of sternum strap or waist strap makes a big difference. I would also say that it's a moot point with a low weight day-type pack. A loaded down large rucksack may cause numbness but we're not talking about those. Well, a proper waistbelt takes mebbe 60% or so of the weight of the backpack, but I don;t think that is something that most 3-day packs, and certainly all direct-attach packs have as a feature, so the waistbelt as a load-carrier point is moot, I reckon. Most 3-day packs have a belly band, which takes no weight, but simply keeps the pack from flopping around. Vastly different critter. |
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I have the TT operator removeable pack and the kifaru E&E. The TT pack sits real low on your vest because the mounting attachments are at the top of the pack, as opposed to the sides like the E&E. I would say the ares pack is the easiest to attach/detach yourself, a teammate had one. When you are wearing body armor with a decent weighted pack on you pretty much lose the use of your arms in about an hour. All of these packs are pretty awesome at relieving cut off circulation at the shoulders while doing long movements with body armor on. SORD makes a decent one also. Another benefit is the ability to clip these packs on to rucksacks and carry both. I used the clip on packs as demo bags carrying my explosives and clipped them to my armor, but needed to be able to clip them to my ruck comfortable to get where I was going first. I was given the tactical tailor pack but bought the kifaru because it is much better IMO, it sits higher, the weight is distributed better, and it clips onto your pack a lot tighter. Tactical tailor operator: http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/100_1818-Copy.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/IMGP0070.jpg Kifaru E&E http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1116.jpg http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m303/daemon734/DSCF1227.jpg I don't understand why a pack with shoulder straps worn over armor carrier would cut off circulation ot one's arms vs. the same-weight pacl attached directly to the armor carrier. As a matter of simple physics, the slender shoulder straps of a pack, riding on top of the armor carrier, should have their weight/pressure distributed by the shoulder portions of the armor carrier. If the pack's shoulder straps should slide off the armor carrier, then I can see a problem developing. OTOH, sternum straps, adjusted properly should avoid such a problem. Maybe I am missing something, and perhaps you can educate me. When a ruck sack is properly tightened, the shoulder straps run under the arms, not just over the armor. I can't describe it if you haven't experienced it, but it sucks. I'm not trying to dog you, but trying to understand. I've worn my 3-day pack, over Interceptor armor plarform, for a day's worth of hiking with minor discomfort. I think the use of the sternum strap essential in maintaining user comfort, and failure to use it is asking for big trouble. For that matter, I've worn MOLLE GI and CFP-90 heavy packs over same platform, and have not encountered arm numbness. Again, use of a tight sternum strap seems to make a big difference. Your thoughts? We aren't talking IBA's here. An IBA is good for a small pack because it has a lot of material going wide at the shoulders. smaller backback straps can ride on this. This also makes it hard to carry trucks with wide straps because you now have to carry all that weight over your armor. I wore plate carriers the whole time I used clip-on packs, which are very narrow at the chest and are only about as wide as the plate. The physics is the same, of course the weight stays the exact same. This difference is in placement. Small packs often have no sternum strap, and they tend to slide off of the armor (or in the case of plate carriers, never be on your armor to begin with) and pin directly into your brachial artery where your chest and shoulder meet. Clipping it to the back of your carrier places the weight all on the carrier's top straps, which pushes down on on your collarbone and trapezius, which if you have a decently strong back, will cause you a lot less trouble. In Afghanistan you tend to be moving uphill quite a bit, which has you inadvertently moving your arms around quite a bit, making it almost impossible to keep those straps from digging in as deep as possible. Often your kit will not allow you to use a sternum strap if you have on as well. A 3-day pack usually has larger straps, which makes it a little harder to slide off and dig into your arms, but at the same time if you dont have a 3-day bag's worth of stuff to carry out then it will all just collect in the bottom, which is equally bad. A 3-day pack will not ride on the armor at all with a plate carrier because of the difference in width. At best it will be half-on half-off, and will still cut off your circulation. I also need a full range of motion of my arms for my job, for rope pulls, probing, etc, and its hard to get that with tightened straps from a bag catching your arms. |
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Interesting, yeah the TT kind of dangles down from the upper attachments. I've only used them attached to larger packs. My TT had the interior material between the two sections rip and that was through really very little use and there was nothing particularly hard or sharp in there. The TT does seem bigger than the Kifaru but the Kifaru rides great for a small little bag I saw some guys fabricate clip on attachments to their drag handles to push the TT pack up higher, as the molle on the back of most carriers doesn't start until halfway down the back, making it ride really low. |
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