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Posted: 7/14/2009 9:12:11 PM EDT
As the title states show your war belt and first line setups complete with component rundowns and even costs. There are alot of seperate threads on this but no one thread with everybodies setups.
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Posted: 4/4/2022 7:35:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R3L04D: Those of y'all using the mid-drop attachment for Safariland holsters + inner/outer belt setups - do y'all run the inner belt through the loops on the holster? I think my outer belt is too stiff to work for that. Just got a new belt and never had to deal with this before I run my outer belt through the loops, it’s tight for sure, but it helps keep the holster from moving when the inner/outer is separated. |
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Posted: 4/4/2022 10:04:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R3L04D: Those of y'all using the mid-drop attachment for Safariland holsters + inner/outer belt setups - do y'all run the inner belt through the loops on the holster? I think my outer belt is too stiff to work for that. Just got a new belt and never had to deal with this before I moved to a Truenorth rig and prefer it to the safariland mount.  Attached FileBut I did move my safariland mid-ride to my single belt system and here’s how I thread it. It was very stable this way with inner and outer belt.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/4/2022 10:16:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 5L33P3R: I moved to a Truenorth rig and prefer it to the safariland mount. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/478727/9169934B-E868-428E-9675-0A12F2594AC0_jpe-2338088.JPG That's sexy. Need it lol |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 4/5/2022 10:34:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R3L04D: Those of y'all using the mid-drop attachment for Safariland holsters + inner/outer belt setups - do y'all run the inner belt through the loops on the holster? I think my outer belt is too stiff to work for that. Just got a new belt and never had to deal with this before |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 10:53:55 AM EDT
[#5]
Put my big boy pants on and figured it out. Really like this belt. Replaces an older VTAC.
Raptor Tactical ODIN MKIII Esstac pistol HSGI Taco IFAK TRex Arms dump G45, Holoson 508T, X300V Safariland ALS holster  |
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Posted: 4/5/2022 5:36:05 PM EDT
[#6]
 Attached FileTRex dump pouched $10 off if anyone is interested. For some reason I can't copy the link and paste it . |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 1:29:52 PM EDT
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OK, think I've got close to my final form for my pistol setup.
Esstac Shooters Belt Blue Alpha Gear Inner Double Alpha Magnet KYWI doubles (gapped) Benchmade SOCP Spiritus JSTA Live the Creed Responder IFAK QLS drop TR Holster  Attached FileRan this through a 1k round pistol class a few weekends ago, but with the True North adapter with the Safariland 6390RDS. The MHA dug into my hip a bit... I may trim it and put it back on. Holster choice will likely be dependent upon the class. Taking a Frank Proctor class later this month... that should be a pretty good test. |
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Posted: 4/12/2022 9:11:07 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/13/2022 3:27:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BrowardMason: Blu Alpha Belt Dara Holster Blue Alpha TQ holder Esstac KYWIs https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/276753/20220412_210923_jpg-2347159.JPG You are one of the first people to have that TQ holder. It was just released like 2 or 3 weeks ago. Give us a review after you run around in it a bit. And maybe some close up pics. Does it feel snug, yet easy enough to pull the TQ out of? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/13/2022 11:39:26 PM EDT
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Hey all,
I'm looking at getting an Esstac Enhanced Shooter's belt. I followed their sizing directions, and my waist size over pants is right at 38 inches. This puts me squarely between the medium and large sizes. Which would fit better? |
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Posted: 4/13/2022 11:45:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Volksgewehr: Hey all, I'm looking at getting an Esstac Enhanced Shooter's belt. I followed their sizing directions, and my waist size over pants is right at 38 inches. This puts me squarely between the medium and large sizes. Which would fit better? Go large. Im between snall and medium. Ordered a small. Ended up getting a medium anyway |
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Posted: 4/14/2022 1:17:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Go large. Im between snall and medium. Ordered a small. Ended up getting a medium anyway Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Originally Posted By Volksgewehr: Hey all, I'm looking at getting an Esstac Enhanced Shooter's belt. I followed their sizing directions, and my waist size over pants is right at 38 inches. This puts me squarely between the medium and large sizes. Which would fit better? Go large. Im between snall and medium. Ordered a small. Ended up getting a medium anyway I'm glad I read that before I put my order in. In fact, that's the reason I haven't put my order in yet and it's been sitting in my cart for like a week. I know their site says they'll swap a belt if I order the wrong size but I hate being a pain in the ass customer. |
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Posted: 4/14/2022 7:48:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CenterMass762: I'm glad I read that before I put my order in. In fact, that's the reason I haven't put my order in yet and it's been sitting in my cart for like a week. I know their site says they'll swap a belt if I order the wrong size but I hate being a pain in the ass customer. |
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Posted: 4/14/2022 8:57:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Volksgewehr: Hey all, I'm looking at getting an Esstac Enhanced Shooter's belt. I followed their sizing directions, and my waist size over pants is right at 38 inches. This puts me squarely between the medium and large sizes. Which would fit better? Get the large. I can't remember what my measurement was outside my pants, but I wear 34" waist pants and I got the large belt. I just got my enhanced belt a couple days ago but haven't had a chance to go LARPing about with it yet. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2022 11:37:31 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SPTiger: Get the large. I can't remember what my measurement was outside my pants, but I wear 34" waist pants and I got the large belt. I just got my enhanced belt a couple days ago but haven't had a chance to go LARPing about with it yet. Thanks, order has been placed. 
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Posted: 4/14/2022 2:08:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R3L04D: Don't worry about it. Stu loves pain in the ass customers Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By R3L04D: Originally Posted By CenterMass762: I'm glad I read that before I put my order in. In fact, that's the reason I haven't put my order in yet and it's been sitting in my cart for like a week. I know their site says they'll swap a belt if I order the wrong size but I hate being a pain in the ass customer. Great, thanks! I'll go ahead and order one of every size and then demand they let me return the ones that don't fit and also reimburse me for shipping both ways. If they won't, I'll make a new account on every gun forum and post incoherent ramblings in ALL CAPS about how terrible their customer service is. Thanks, Esstac! |
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Posted: 4/14/2022 3:05:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Volksgewehr: Thanks, order has been placed. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Volksgewehr: Originally Posted By SPTiger: Get the large. I can't remember what my measurement was outside my pants, but I wear 34" waist pants and I got the large belt. I just got my enhanced belt a couple days ago but haven't had a chance to go LARPing about with it yet. Thanks, order has been placed.  |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2022 4:29:09 AM EDT
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for those of you with an HSGI padded belt, do you find it riding up? sliding off? would you go inner/outer if you could re-do it?
esstac enhanced or HSGI is where I'm leaning. |
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:48:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HimIOwe: for those of you with an HSGI padded belt, do you find it riding up? sliding off? would you go inner/outer if you could re-do it? esstac enhanced or HSGI is where I'm leaning. I've got both. My HSGI does not move much, if at all. I will generally use that if I'm taking a carbine class, and want to run it without a PC or chest rig. For those types of classes, I'll generally have a secondary, 3-4 secondary mags, and 3-4 primary mags.... it gets heavy. Even then, it doesn't really slide much, but I did add a set of suspenders to help distribute the weight. I love my new Esstac. My intention is to use that more for pistol classes, although I could throw 2-3 primary mags on there if I needed to.  Attached File(And yes, I am cross eye dominant, primary/lefty, secondary/righty) |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:00:01 PM EDT
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I have a hsgi padded that always moved no matter how tight I had it and seemed to bunch up. I'm differently going with a two piece this go around. The hsgi was gel padded I believe and was very comfortable but was too wide. That belt was bought and used six years ago with a plate carrier doing dynamic jobs.
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Posted: 4/15/2022 9:28:02 PM EDT
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NM, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2022 8:13:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lane579]
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So I guess I'm what some would call a dinosaur when it comes to tactical gear. I don't wear flat billed caps and I don't hang gloves anywhere except on my hands. I still use an ATS MOLLE sleeve over a 2" nylon belt, and I think the Battlelab pouches were the best nylon you could buy
 . (and I have a lot of it, still going). But I am intrigued by the contributors of this thread and these slimmer belts that still accommodate MOLLE such as Ronin and Blue Alpha. However, I see a lot of guys going to the non-MOLLE belt and one wrap pouch systems such as ESSTAC and others. Is it the true way of the future? Should I give in and cut all the MOLLE straps off my mag pouches? And....would it kill someone to have VN Tiger Stripe items just for fun?
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Posted: 4/16/2022 8:35:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By js1977: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/438461/04D13411-AB68-4D63-9C63-7A3C6BF3EB5F_jpe-2350476.JPG You need some MBX mags sir |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 8:53:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TCBA_Joe]
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Posted: 4/16/2022 8:58:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lane579: So I guess I'm what some would call a dinosaur when it comes to tactical gear. I don't wear flat billed caps and I don't hang gloves anywhere except on my hands. I still use an ATS MOLLE sleeve over a 2" nylon belt, and I think the Battlelab pouches were the best nylon you could buy . (and I have a lot of it, still going). But I am intrigued by the contributors of this thread and these slimmer belts that still accommodate MOLLE such as Ronin and Blue Alpha. However, I see a lot of guys going to the non-MOLLE belt and one wrap pouch systems such as ESSTAC and others. Is it the true way of the future? Should I give in and cut all the MOLLE straps off my mag pouches? And....would it kill someone to have VN Tiger Stripe items just for fun?Micro molle belts like Ronon, Tyr, and Eagle are awesome. One wrap is over rated outside of comms cable management. It's popular bc guys hooked their fanboy wagon to a company that doesn't put molle on their belt and need a way to attach stuff. You're seeing a lot of non molle belts and one wrap bc this place is an eco chamber. Every forum has a company that their fans confuse engagement with a superior product concept. |
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NM, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2022 9:05:17 PM EDT
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I copy Joe
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Posted: 4/16/2022 9:18:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: You need some MBX mags sir |
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Posted: 4/16/2022 10:49:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Micro molle belts like Ronon, Tyr, and Eagle are awesome. One wrap is over rated outside of comms cable management. It's popular bc guys hooked their fanboy wagon to a company that doesn't put molle on their belt and need a way to attach stuff. You're seeing a lot of non molle belts and one wrap bc this place is an eco chamber. Every forum has a company that their fans confuse engagement with a superior product concept. Damnit man, I thought we were friends. In all fairness, molle vs. One wrap comes down to use and preference. And we are adult enough to separate tour line of work vs my now civilian ass who doesn't need it as much. Although my last duty belt had a bunch of one wrap... |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 8:12:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: One wrap is over rated outside of comms cable management. Could you elaborate on the deficiencies of a one wrap system? |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 9:14:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lane579: So I guess I'm what some would call a dinosaur when it comes to tactical gear. I don't wear flat billed caps and I don't hang gloves anywhere except on my hands. I still use an ATS MOLLE sleeve over a 2" nylon belt, and I think the Battlelab pouches were the best nylon you could buy . (and I have a lot of it, still going). But I am intrigued by the contributors of this thread and these slimmer belts that still accommodate MOLLE such as Ronin and Blue Alpha. However, I see a lot of guys going to the non-MOLLE belt and one wrap pouch systems such as ESSTAC and others. Is it the true way of the future? Should I give in and cut all the MOLLE straps off my mag pouches? And....would it kill someone to have VN Tiger Stripe items just for fun?Pssh, you kids and your newfangled nylon.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 9:41:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lane579: So I guess I'm what some would call a dinosaur when it comes to tactical gear. I don't wear flat billed caps and I don't hang gloves anywhere except on my hands. I still use an ATS MOLLE sleeve over a 2" nylon belt, and I think the Battlelab pouches were the best nylon you could buy . (and I have a lot of it, still going). But I am intrigued by the contributors of this thread and these slimmer belts that still accommodate MOLLE such as Ronin and Blue Alpha. However, I see a lot of guys going to the non-MOLLE belt and one wrap pouch systems such as ESSTAC and others. Is it the true way of the future? Should I give in and cut all the MOLLE straps off my mag pouches? And....would it kill someone to have VN Tiger Stripe items just for fun?When we first deployed in 04 that gave us molle body armor and we still had Vietnam allice gear. Trying to make that work sucked. I spent 400 on my belt and I just use it at the Range. Its nice to have nice gear.  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 1:42:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By js1977: Are they better then the G3's by staccato? I got 3 17rd mags and 2 20rd mags. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By js1977: Originally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: You need some MBX mags sir I honestly haven't had a failure with either.  I'm probably like idk about 1500 rounds into mine |
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Posted: 4/17/2022 11:37:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By acegunner: You are one of the first people to have that TQ holder. It was just released like 2 or 3 weeks ago. Give us a review after you run around in it a bit. And maybe some close up pics. Does it feel snug, yet easy enough to pull the TQ out of? @acegunner I really like it. It holds on tight (to both the TQ and the sharpie). I ordered it on release day and had it 3 days later. I've already worn it to do run and gun training several times and it holds the TQ perfectly. I have it attached to my belt with one wrap. Instead of MOLLE it has a different kind of mounting system. You can see it well on the stock pics, but ill post some of my own pictures tomorrow. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 8:40:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By acegunner: You are one f the first people to have that TQ holder. It was just released like 2 or 3 weeks ago. Give us a review after you run around in it a bit. And maybe some close up pics. Does it feel snug, yet easy enough to pull the TQ out of? Who is "us" and can you drop a link to the item in question please? |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 8:46:45 AM EDT
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Question: Heard something yesterday about the .Mil load rating test for Belts - that the Buckle needs to be able to be manually released under load. Is this true? If so, Cobra's don't, so what load rated buckles do? Thx.
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Posted: 4/18/2022 9:20:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mickdonaldson: Question: Heard something yesterday about the .Mil load rating test for Belts - that the Buckle needs to be able to be manually released under load. Is this true? If so, Cobra's don't, so what load rated buckles do? Thx. Is that for pant belts or war belts? If for war belts then I'm guessing the plastic fastex buckle does. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 9:20:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiskersTheCat: I honestly haven't had a failure with either. I'm probably like idk about 1500 rounds into mine |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 10:06:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunnyFitz: Who is "us" and can you drop a link to the item in question please? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunnyFitz: Originally Posted By acegunner: You are one f the first people to have that TQ holder. It was just released like 2 or 3 weeks ago. Give us a review after you run around in it a bit. And maybe some close up pics. Does it feel snug, yet easy enough to pull the TQ out of? Who is "us" and can you drop a link to the item in question please? Link |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 10:34:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Glocked: Link Now I understand. The Co names threw me. The "Blue Force Gear" one I have blows. I'd like one of these but must await next check from VA...... |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 11:03:46 AM EDT
[#40]
My Enhanced Shooter's Belt came in Saturday. This is my first belt rig, so I don't know how they're supposed to fit, but the outer belt feels about an inch too long. Is the support intended to come primarily from the inner belt attachment, or should there be some tension on the outer belt?
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Posted: 4/18/2022 11:05:37 AM EDT
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Wrap yourself with the inner so it's snug. There can be overlap. Then size the outer belt to fit over that. Should be tight as to not have slack, but not too toght that you cant close the buckle
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Posted: 4/18/2022 11:12:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Wrap yourself with the inner so it's snug. There can be overlap. Then size the outer belt to fit over that. Should be tight as to not have slack, but not too toght that you cant close the buckle I have the inner belt as tight as a normal pants belt, then lay the outer belt over it. With the buckles adjusted to their smallest, I have enough slack to mount my Sidecar holster on the outer. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 11:24:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Volksgewehr: I have the inner belt as tight as a normal pants belt, then lay the outer belt over it. With the buckles adjusted to their smallest, I have enough slack to mount my Sidecar holster on the outer. Figured youbwere using more as a traditional battle belt, not as an edc belt |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2022 11:30:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By stoner01: Figured youbwere using more as a traditional battle belt, not as an edc belt I do intend to use it as a battle belt, I was trying to explain how loose it is. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 11:42:39 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Volksgewehr: I do intend to use it as a battle belt, I was trying to explain how loose it is. You might need to size down then. If I'm understanding correctly |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 4:39:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: eaglecp]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TCBA_Joe: Micro molle belts like Ronon, Tyr, and Eagle are awesome. One wrap is over rated outside of comms cable management. It's popular bc guys hooked their fanboy wagon to a company that doesn't put molle on their belt and need a way to attach stuff. You're seeing a lot of non molle belts and one wrap bc this place is an eco chamber. Every forum has a company that their fans confuse engagement with a superior product concept. Wow! “ Lighten up Francis”. There is room for both schools of thought here. This game is always evolving. Ronin, TYR, and Eagle are All good products, for sure, but they are not the be all end all. We are always trying to find ways to lighten the load and steamline gear. I’ve seen one wrap fail and I’ve seen a TYR Micro Molle belt fail as well. Most of us chose the gear we buy based on the quality and reputation of the company selling it. That doesn’t make one a fanboy and using that term in an attempt to delegitimize anyone who tries to argue with you is foolish. If one wrap was truly that much inferior to a heavier bulkier belt, I would agree with you. My experience is different. Unlike many, I use the hell out of my gear and I can tell you that “one wrap” solves a lot of issues and allows one to really lighten the load without sacrificing a solid platform. You should really try to be less hypocritical when calling people “fanboy’s” when you start your post out by saying; “Micro molle belts like Ronon, Tyr, and Eagle are awesome”. Kind of lumps you in as a fanboy. Pic thread:  Cp |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 5:41:10 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HimIOwe: for those of you with an HSGI padded belt, do you find it riding up? sliding off? would you go inner/outer if you could re-do it? esstac enhanced or HSGI is where I'm leaning. I have both for different purposes: Esstac for range belt- holster, pistol mags, ready rifle mag, trauma kit, TQs HSGI for a "recce"/out in the boonies belt- holster, trauma kit, pistol mag, 3x rifle mags, admin, 2x water bottles, TQs, bottle pouch used for sustainment items, Tactical Tailor suspenders Even without the suspenders, the HSGI belt stays put- no sliding, riding, or rolling. |
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Posted: 4/18/2022 6:21:29 PM EDT
[#48]
I dont care call me fan boy lol . I likes what I likes.
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Posted: 4/18/2022 6:49:18 PM EDT
[#49]
I like Molle and Pals on my chest carrier and packs, and one wraps on my belts. I don't even know who this company is that I'm supposed to be a fanboi of
 But when I'm using an inner and an outer belt system, it just makes more sense to be using the same thing that secures both belts together as a way to secure the items on the belt as well so there'd be more surface area contacting with the inner. If this use of common sense makes me a fAnBoI by some overtly assertive person with a hair up his butt, then so be it I guess 
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Posted: 4/18/2022 9:23:11 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By js1977: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/438461/04D13411-AB68-4D63-9C63-7A3C6BF3EB5F_jpe-2350476.JPG |
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