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Quoted: look again troll. you'll see ats med pouches, osoe med pouches, the hsgi bleeder pouch, esstac med-rats, etc. almost every rig that has been posted recently has one. also there is a nice long sticky at the top of the forum dedicated to med pouches. |
Damn dude...apparantly my message is aimed at those who aren't reading stickies because I continue to see hero pics without the shit. I see pics of rifle classes people pay thousands to attend and they don't roll with plates. I'd think if I were to pay that amount of money I'd train like I'd fight.
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Honestly I think that the "armor in every situation" approach is highly overrated. A more professional approach is to evaluate the pro's and con's of wearing different types of body armor in the different types of situations you are likely to encounter.
For example, alot of these guys have SHTF-dedicated rigs. If they're planning on bugging out on foot, they're going to have a hell of a time walking long distances, not to mention running, getting up from prone, etc., with a loaded IBA with front, back, and side plates. And sure, I guess they could always train to a higher level, but in a bug-out situation maybe it makes more sense for them to load up on things like food and extra ammunition than body armor? I don't know about you, but I can't eat rifle plates, and I'd be hard pressed to brain a deer with one just to get something to eat.
I know that in my situation in the military, I'm stationed in a particular area in a situation in which mobility is key over protection against small arms. In regards to armor, fragmentation protection is far more important to me in this context as the primary threat is Kornet and Sagger missiles and RPGs. True, somebody could open up on us with an AK or an M16, but if that happens, I'm probably using the Hummer for cover and anything which is sticking out isn't going to be covered by body armor anyway. So what would I be getting with rifle plates? Well for one, it'd be harder for me to get out of that Hummer if we're being fired upon by missiles, and it'd be a lot harder for a buddy to pull me out of the Hummer if I'm hit and incapacitated.
Maybe some of these guys ARE training as they would fight in these rifle classes. Maybe armor isn't going to help the person to "win" or survive in the most likely circumstances they would expect to face?
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This shit, 60 kilometers, PLUS an extra 15 lbs of armor? No thanks.
(not me in the picture, different battalion)