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Posted: 12/31/2005 2:46:29 PM EDT
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I thought the Colt Officers 45 was already a 3.5" gun?
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Posted: 12/31/2005 2:50:11 PM EDT
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1911s shorter than 4" are not as reliable due to:
slide has less travel - imp. for feeding timing/cycle of operations is accelerated heavy springs to compensate for reduced slide mass Stick to Commander/ProCarry size, IMO. |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 3:40:25 PM EDT
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Wow. You made me go measure, and Im glad I did. I incorrectly always thought this was a 4", it is indeed a 3.5", so now I am guessing I want a 3"  |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 3:44:33 PM EDT
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As I said above, I thought[/i[ my Officers was a 4", but I have never had any problems with it at all. Good ammo and good mags.....runs like a champ. But Im not sure about a 3" one.........man. |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 4:06:36 PM EDT
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Don't waste your money.
I had a Springfield Loaded OD Green Lightweight Micro Compact (say that ten times fast). Sold it and went back to carrying my Colt Officers LW. The 3" barrel really doesn't help more than the 3.5 with concealment and makes the gun feel like it wanted to pop out of my holster. Too much weight in the butt and no barrel length to hold it. It had about the same recoil and reliability as the Officers. The only advantage to the shorter barrel IMO is if you carry your gun in a horizontal shoulder rig, then I would recommend the Colt Defender as it is the most reliable of the under 4" BBL guns. My next 1911 will be a CCO. The grip is the hard part for me to hide as I'm 5'7 and 140lbs. |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 5:04:25 PM EDT
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Men quite often think thier barrel is longer than it actually measures. Usually though thier final goal is to end up with a longer barrel not a shorter one.
I really can't see an extra half inch shorter really having an advantage for CCW over the Officers. If you want something compact with a bite go for one of these. 
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Posted: 12/31/2005 6:09:01 PM EDT
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I like the CCO set up most.
You have a Commanders Slide (4.25) and you have the officers frame. I am sending both of my CCO sized pieces off to have a radius (pseudo bobtail) done to both of them and replacing both MSH with smooth ones or I might have them scallop or chain them instead of stippleing them. For CCW the checkering is just going to catch on clothes. Is that the Mini Cop above? If so whats it shoot? I know they were going to make one in .410 years ago, that would be a little powerhouse! If I recall the barrels rotate? Or is that one where the firing pin rotates (I think I recall the one that had a rotating firing pin was prone to problems) If you are set on a 3 in there is a very nice Colt Deferender someone is selling in the EE, Email me if you want me to find the ad for you as I have it bookmarked, I was really considering it. |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 6:18:05 PM EDT
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OK, I'll bite. WTF is that and in what Caliber? I thought the Rohrbaugh was the smallest full caiber auto (9mm) but that thing looks smaller. |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 9:04:31 PM EDT
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that is a Semmerling,,,wish I had bought one when i could, great little gun, 4 shots, very slick. very concealable.. |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 9:24:53 PM EDT
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I believe that's a COP 4-shot .357MAG... the Semmerling was a slide action pistol. CavVet - Sub-five inch 1911s can easily be made to run but the smaller you go the more effort the may need. I would be weary of those who blindly disregard sub-four or five inch 1911s as unreliable and would be more inclined to make my decision on a per gun basis. If your gun runs with your ammo and your mags then it is reliable. If not, short of something catastrophic, it can be made to shoot reliably. While I am a big proponent of full-sized, all steel, five-inch 1911s for all-day every-day carry they seem not to agree with everyone and I know quite a few 'smiths who have made careers out of building 100% reliable "key-chain" 1911s such as those in the sub-four inch catagory. And even without a 'smith's help and they can often work right out of the box. IMO, your best bet for a 3" or 3.5" 1911 that is reliable out of the box lies with a Series 1 Kimber "Ultra" sized gun (Ultra Carry or Ultra Tactical, whatever they're calling it this week) or a Colt O-ACP tuned with what it needs, which may very well be nothing at all. Any other questions and you know where to reach me...  |
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Posted: 12/31/2005 10:26:33 PM EDT
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in the late 80's or early 90's Derringer was going to make a Mini Cop like that which was going to come in 357 and also another in .410.
I do not know if the 410 ever came out, but it sounded like a neat little gizmo |
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