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Posted: 1/24/2009 12:05:40 PM EDT
Already have an XD9SC for IWB carry, but also want a small pocket 9 for hot weather carry, but want 9MM for ammo commonality.  Could go .380 if I had to, but would prefer 9.  Thanks!  
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 12:11:41 PM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
Already have an XD9SC for IWB carry, but also want a small pocket 9 for hot weather carry, but want 9MM for ammo commonality.  Could go .380 if I had to, but would prefer 9.  Thanks!  


Someone posted about the Walther PPS a while pack.  I have been drooling for one since.  Look it up.
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 12:28:15 PM EDT
[#2]
The Walther PPS is ideal for the OP's criteria.  Somebody I know said "shit - it is like my Glock 26, sawed in half lengtwise!"

Compare these stats from the Walther site with whatever else you come up with:

Model-: PPS
Caliber-: 9mm
Length: 6.3"
Height: 4.4"
Overall Width/Width without slidestop lever and takedown buttons: 1.04"/.91"
Barrel Length: 3.2"
Sight Radius: 5.4"
Weight (without Mag): 19.4 oz.
Standard Magazine Weight: 1.9 oz.
Action: Striker Fire Action, Pre-Cocked
Trigger Pull: 6.1 lbs.
Frame: Black Polymer


Link Posted: 1/24/2009 12:28:15 PM EDT
[#3]
Double tap - got carried away.


Link Posted: 1/24/2009 12:31:28 PM EDT
[#4]
Are you going to use a pocket holster?
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 1:03:01 PM EDT
[#5]
Dare I suggest the Kel Tec PF9?
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 1:21:40 PM EDT
[#6]
If you can find Smith & Wesson Chief Special 9mm..
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 1:38:58 PM EDT
[#7]
PPS.

Link Posted: 1/24/2009 1:41:23 PM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
PPS.


Since you own a 642 to compare it to . . .


  • How much more does in print in the pocket?

  • How much more difficult is it to draw from the pocket?

  • How reliable is it?


Link Posted: 1/24/2009 1:44:22 PM EDT
[#9]
Kahr PM9

I pocket carry it every day.

I shoot it at least once every week, it has never failed.

It is the thinnest 9mm avaiable.
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 1:57:48 PM EDT
[#10]
Kel Tec PF-9.

I actually think it's a little large/heavy for effective pocket carry, but it's the best (lightest smallest) option out there.
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 4:27:03 PM EDT
[#11]
The PPS is slim, but it has a fairly large profile.  And it doesn't hold a lot of rounds.
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 5:08:56 PM EDT
[#12]
For a true pocket gun for days with absolute minimum clothing, Kel-tec with a fluff and buff, or LCP .380.
Link Posted: 1/24/2009 5:22:55 PM EDT
[#13]
STI LS9
this is off their website http://www.stiguns.com/

What else can be said? These are the slimmest full power handguns on the market today. Utilizing new linkless barrel technology with classic 1911 design, allows the STI International LS pistol to be slimmest full powered 1911 on the market today; only .765” across the slide and 1.065” across the slim rosewood grip panels. Designed for concealed carry and self defense, the LS features an undercut trigger guard and front strap STIppling, which transfers most of the felt recoil to the heel of the palm and reduces muzzle rise through the unique design of the STI Camblock linkless barrel system. The LS uses conventional 1911 controls, with the added advantage that the slide can be cycled for loading or unloading with the thumb safety engaged.

The LS pistol has an abbreviated grip, 3.4” barrel and weighs less than 28 ounces. The sights are a slide integral front sight with a Heinie Low Mount rear sight for a snag-resistant design. The LS comes standard with STI International’s patented trigger assembly and RecoilMaster guide rod system. Available in 9mm.

Link Posted: 1/24/2009 5:53:18 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Quoted:
PPS.


Since you own a 642 to compare it to . . .


  • How much more does in print in the pocket?

  • How much more difficult is it to draw from the pocket?

  • How reliable is it?






  • It prints less than the 442, and is thinner than the 442.  The 442 is lighter and holds less ammo.

    Drawing from a pocket requires some practice and is slower than a "normal" holster.  Both draw very well.

    My PPS has been 100% so far, but so has my 442.  

    I plan on getting a leather pocket holster of some kind, the Kydex is very stiff for a pocket holster.
    Link Posted: 1/24/2009 5:57:01 PM EDT
    [#15]
    I own a PPS as well . It works in a pocket (cargo pant ) but tends to look like I am carrying a paperback book in my pocket. It is a nice lightweight pistol that I plan on carrying for summer IWB though.
    Link Posted: 1/24/2009 5:57:27 PM EDT
    [#16]
    i am no expert but i love my m&p 9c and i think it might be a good choice for this with the small magazine.
    Link Posted: 1/24/2009 5:58:45 PM EDT
    [#17]
    I've never shot the Walther PPS, but I held it twice at the store.  I didn't like the way it felt.  It's not the gun for me.  It seemed top heavy or something like that.
    Link Posted: 1/24/2009 6:50:40 PM EDT
    [#18]
    Quoted:
    Are you going to use a pocket holster?


    Yep, front right pocket.

    Link Posted: 1/25/2009 3:02:56 AM EDT
    [#19]
    Quoted:
    Kahr PM9

    I pocket carry it every day.

    I shoot it at least once every week, it has never failed.

    It is the thinnest 9mm avaiable.


    This
    Link Posted: 1/25/2009 4:52:16 AM EDT
    [#20]
    Quoted:
    Quoted:
    Kahr PM9

    I pocket carry it every day.

    I shoot it at least once every week, it has never failed.

    It is the thinnest 9mm avaiable.


    This


    +1...Kahr PM9 and Desantis Nemesis FTW.
    Link Posted: 1/25/2009 8:28:10 AM EDT
    [#21]
    Link Posted: 1/25/2009 8:51:50 AM EDT
    [#22]
    Quoted:
    Already have an XD9SC for IWB carry, but also want a small pocket 9 for hot weather carry, but want 9MM for ammo commonality.  Could go .380 if I had to, but would prefer 9.  Thanks!  


    I have no first hand experience with the Rorhbaugh R-9, but it looks like it would meet your criteria:

    http://www.rohrbaughfirearms.com/product/prod_set.html

    My "Deep cover" carry is either a S&W 340PD or an NAA Guardian in .380:



    Link Posted: 1/25/2009 11:36:14 AM EDT
    [#23]
    Kahr PM9
    Link Posted: 1/25/2009 8:30:58 PM EDT
    [#24]
    I just viewed some vids and reviews of the PPS and it was looking good until reports of malfunctions popped up.  I'll wait. One of the good features is the PPS trigger allows for fast rapid firing.   The long DA only trigger of the Kahr PM9 rules it out for me.
    Link Posted: 1/25/2009 10:08:03 PM EDT
    [#25]
    +1 on the Kahr Arms PM9


    How about the Bond Arms Defender in 9x19mm?
    Link Posted: 1/26/2009 4:58:53 AM EDT
    [#26]
    Link Posted: 1/26/2009 8:07:34 AM EDT
    [#27]
    Quoted:
    Quoted:
    Kahr PM9

    I pocket carry it every day.

    I shoot it at least once every week, it has never failed.

    It is the thinnest 9mm avaiable.


    This


    +1  Almost 5 years now with no problems.  
    Link Posted: 1/26/2009 9:30:26 AM EDT
    [#28]
    Link Posted: 1/26/2009 10:01:33 AM EDT
    [#29]
    Quoted:
    Kahr PM9

    I pocket carry it every day.

    I shoot it at least once every week, it has never failed.

    It is the thinnest 9mm avaiable.


    PF9 is slightly slimmer.  The PM9 is shorter length and height wise though.  I've tried both for pocket carry and have since moved on to a 442.  Much better for pocket IMO.
    Link Posted: 1/26/2009 11:32:00 AM EDT
    [#30]
    Glock 26ss. It is the single stack version of the G26. It holds 6rds of 9mm (or 7 with the mag ext.)
















    Oh yeah, sorry I forget. Glock hasn't bothered to make this one yet. Apparently they were too busy designing new slide serrations for the so called Gen4 Glock!
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