Thanks, Bob and Hydguy. That must have been a little disappointing, NoKarma. I hate to put out cash and then not get what I'm expecting. This Kahr has been a bit of a challenge for me. It's a quality piece, but its size causes it's own problems for me. I'm still searching for a solution. My problem primarily is holding the darn thing. I get two fingers on the grip and when it recoils, my thumb ends up pushing the magazine release (it seems to naturally lay right over the top of it. I moved my thumb above the the release button and then it would activate the slide-lock lever and lock back the slide. I havn't had much time to work with it at the range, but my intent is to try a two thumbs up grip, or maybe tuck them down. If they had designed it with a protective ridge going around the mag release button, there never would have been a problem. Anyway, reducing recoil/flip would go a long way for me. Thanks for the replys.