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Posted: 2/28/2005 6:12:16 PM EDT
You know, Les Baer, Wilson Combat, and Ed Brown, among others. At least every other thread wouldn't be about "I had to send my new Kimber back to the factory," etc.
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probably won't happen because those of us who own Gucci 1911s don't have a whole lot to talk about...other than how wonderful our guns are and how we'll never own a mass produced carry gun again
<-----Les Baer Stinger owner |
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On a limited level, I have to agree with you about the snob thing (and only because there's some truth to it--as evidence I submit the first post in this thread) I just wish folks could understand the reasons most of us have spent the big bucks on a big name 1911. 1) We've either been burned one too many times by Brand X, Y or Z. 2) We understand and appreciate quality on a level that borders on/surpasses anal retentivity, and we don't let the pricetag deter us from owning that quality. 3) We have plenty of money and go for the Bling Appeal. (I fall into categories 1 and 2. I still own, trust, and often carry the P13 that my Les Baer replaced as primary CCW...it just took a whole lot more work to make trustworthy) |
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Put me down for #2.
Ordering an Ed Brown Fullsize Kobra to keep my Les Baer company. http://pic18.picturetrail.com/VOL875/3165911/6449842/84051280.jpg |
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Dont bet on it. Some of my most expensive 45's, several Wilson CQB's, and 2 Ed Brown Kobra's racked up more frequent flyer miles being sent back to the factory. These pistols aren't immune to the QC problems that their less expensive counterparts sometimes have. Plenty to talk about. |
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They could name it the AJohnston forum. |
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Nah.. Pistolsmith.com already gave him one. |
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That was damn funny! |
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OK, I feel like getting a brow beating...
Les Baer = Too tight for anything but paper. Wilson Combat = Kimber + $$$. I've nothing against Ed Brown, but I'd take a true-custom Rock River (built to my specs) over these any day of the week. I'd also love a gun built my Ned, Chuck, Stan, Hilton, Ted, Lew, CT, etc., but I can't wait that long. |
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Total and Complete BS... |
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You're right. THEY ARE TOO FUCKING TIGHT FOR EVEN BASIC FUNCTION DRILLS. |
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I would love for anybody to handle & shoot my Wilson and still call it a "Kimber+$$$". You had to know I wasn't going to let this comment slde by unanswered.
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If we did that , we would have twenty different 1911 forums to be able to include all the specialised 1911 customisers on the market. Sorry to say but thats not going to happen. |
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There is an seperate forum for all you high end users... it's titled "other".....
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Are you talking about those old 45 automatics from WW2? They make a thing called a Glock now, dude. Enter the 21 Century.
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That sounds like a great idea. |
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+1 |
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You are "AsianGirl" from that other forum aren't you. |
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Why in Gods earth would post such a moronic statement in a "High End" 1911 thread? You should be beaten with a rubber hose just for plain stupidity. |
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yep. that's why none of the instructors use Les Baer pistols at Thunder Ranch I don't want to get into a pissing match with you Lump, but that's the least intelligent thing I've ever heard you say. I'd be happy to put my LB up against your Wilson any day of the week, but it might get prohibitively expensive...seeing as how I have over 3K rounds through mine now without a failure. I believe that your Wilson is capable of the same reliability. The only difference we have here is that I am willing to admit that your choice of a duty/carry weapon is just as good as mine. Who carries a gun without putting it through it's paces first anyway? Mine has yet to malfunction, and it loosened up after about 700 rds. I don't have any problems with any functional or clearing drills, and I practice those almost every weekend. |
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And I'll put my Kimber TLE RL 2 against your Les Baer and the Wilson as well. Fuck, if I still had my mil-spec operator... |
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Me too! [ur]m1911.org is another wealth of information. CoC on the 1911 boards seems to be quite a bit more strict than here, but it ensures the topics stay on track and they won't tolerate trolls. (and the Springfield/Kimber/Baer/Colt/yourbrandnamehere debate rages on those sites as well) |
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No flame intended, but this is exactly why we need a "High End" 1911 board. |
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Because I think my Kimber and mil-spec would perform similar to a higher end 1911?
What does that prove? I have a very hard time believing that it would turn out otherwise. And if it did, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. If you're that antsy, go to the "other" section. The reason I am posting here AT ALL is because this is "handgun discussion" and I am simply discussing handguns. If you were going to post something about baer's or wilson's, I'd leave ya alone. |
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So does my Springfield TRP operator count as a "low"end 1911? I mean the MSRP on it is 1640, not too far below the wilsons. I havent had any problems with it either. I was looking at the wilson CQB's but they didnt have any in stock and it would have taken a month. I think that people should be happy with what they own. Just cause i dont own a Wilson or Baer or Brown 1911 sure as hell doesnt mean that i dont admire and respect the guns.
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You ever own one???? My Thunder Ranch Special is the best goddamn 1911 I've ever owned, and I've owned a lot of them. It's completely reliable and easy to operate, even though it's pretty tight. |
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Only a moron would own a Glock. Do you own a Glock? |
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Dude, if you ever get a good paying job by the time you hit 22, save up some money and buy a few 1911s to play with. Until then, your opinion is worth about as much as one of those dried, bleached dog turds you find in the yard after the spring thaw. |
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Wow. 154 post tough guy. I'm perfectly happy with my MK23. Wanna put your high end 1911 against my MK23 in an accuracy/reliability contest? Didn't fucking think so. Also, are you talking about any 1911, or higher end ones? Because I also have 2 1911's. Springfield loaded, and a TLE RL 2...so...I'd have to hope that my opinion is worth something to you... |
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I'm not backing up GunWares arrogant statement, but I would gladly put my Wilson up against that HK any day of the week. |
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I'm sure you would, and I am sure it would fare quite nicely. They'd probably do the exact same thing up until we got WAY up in the round count, WELL PAST what any firearm would have to endure in any real world situation in terms of round count. Accuracy wise though, I am sure there are plenty of high end 1911's that could match it, and a few that may even do better. Anything is possible. Regardless, it was a quick response to what was one of the most arrogant, foolish, and stupid comments I have ever had directed toward me here. |
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No problem, like I said Gunwares comment was uncalled-for. |
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+1 I agree with Colt45guy on this one. I've handled (but not shot) 4 Les Baers, two of which were "1.5" 50 yard guaranteed" models, and they're no worse than anything else out there when it comes to pulling back the slide. I have no where near the 1911 experience as either Lumpy or Colt45guy do, but none of the Les Baers I've handled are hard to pull back. They do have small clearances though for the rails, which means lack of wobble on the slide. Also, I'd be all up for an enhanced 1911 section as well. themao |
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I own a Glock...you calling me a moron? |
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It really tickles me that there continue to be morons on here that weigh a person's opinions by the number of posts they've made. I stand by my comments, and arrogant though they may be, they are essentially correct. If you also want to pound chests based on the number of firearms one owns, that is a contest you will not win. My collection is currently worth over $50,000 and includes at least 6 1911s that I currently own. Your opinion is worth the same to me as a dried, bleached dog turd, i.e., nothing. Sorry. "Wanna put your high end 1911 against my MK23 in an accuracy/reliability contest? Didn't fucking think so." You should always wait for an answer before making stupid retorts. Fuckin' amateurs. |
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We don't give a damn how many 1911s that you have or how much money you have invested in guns. Don't come here and give people shit like this. Fucking troll. PS, I have $8,000 in guns and 1 1911. But at least I'm not an asshole. |
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I think we should have a "I had to send my Kimber back to the factory" forum, you know, so every other thread wouldn't be about some rich prick and his 2500.$$ blaster
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Your problem, Jack, is that you don't know when your chain is being jerked. At least I'm not a fucking moron. |
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