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Posted: 4/24/2017 3:44:48 PM EDT
Oh look.....Someone took a $1200+ Nazi P-35 H-P and made a $600.00 shooter of it.
All matching, non-import stamped a-block (1943?) WaA140 marked. In German service, it was used mainly by Waffen-SS and Fallschirmjäger personnel and called the Pistole 640(b). At least it had a Inglis H-P mag stuck in it in it. I ordered a couple of 15 round flush-fit nickled mags for it....May as well go whole-hog. I used one of my Mec-Gar 15 round flush fit mags in it when I shot it and it works fine. In fact it shoots great and even eats HPs. Attached File Attached File Attached File Waffen-SS with H-P and it's issue holster. |
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I saw a worse example. The pistol had been chrome plated and had grip panels made from clear plastic sheet.
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Probably done by some 88er as a dress gun.
Cool gun nonetheless. Would shoot the hell out of it. |
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I saw a worse example. The pistol had been chrome plated and had grip panels made from clear plastic sheet. View Quote |
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On the plus side, some of these old guns would be nothing but a pile of rust had they not been nickeled.
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I have a complete slide assembly with an adjustable rear sight. I bought it for the sight, ought to sell the whole thing I guess, I probably won't use the sight.
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Looks in great shape at least, way better than a lot of other imports we've seen.
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Looks in great shape at least, way better than a lot of other imports we've seen. View Quote Jokes aside I don't think much was done to it as far a buffing before the plating went. From what I understand very few of the a-blocks had the mag safety, this one does not. |
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Nickel plating milsurps was extremely common in the fifties. It was about the only option for a rust resistant finish, prior to stainless steel. The finish on many of the milsurps also left something to be desired, plating help cover up/clean up some tired iron.
Stuff like that Hi Power were common and cheap back then. It was no big deal. This board can be weird. People foam at the mouth whenever an old milsurp gets refinished. But dig out an old Winchester 12 or 97, or an old A-5 Browning and the only suggestion anyone has is chop the barrel and tacticalize it. |
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Nickel plating milsurps was extremely common in the fifties. It was about the only option for a rust resistant finish, prior to stainless steel. The finish on many of the milsurps also left something to be desired, plating help cover up/clean up some tired iron. Stuff like that Hi Power were common and cheap back then. It was no big deal. This board can be weird. People foam at the mouth whenever an old milsurp gets refinished. But dig out an old Winchester 12 or 97, or an old A-5 Browning and the only suggestion anyone has is chop the barrel and tacticalize it. View Quote Hell I had a nickled P-38, P-08, and a Victory Model before but that does not mitigate the fact I'd rather they had been left alone. Same with the cut-down mil-surp rifles. As for "weird" yeah, sometimes. I bought a pretty nice 1957 FN Auto-5 Light Twelve last week and sure as shit I got a couple of suggestions to make a Whippet of it. But everyone should know....A Whippet should only be made of a Rem. Model 11. |
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I remember hearing that this was a really common practice in Occupied Germany post-war as well. The story was that GIs would get their trophies chromed at old plants, small shops set up towards the end of the war, etc, by whatever random German may want to make a few bucks or curry favor. Just a story, but I have heard way stranger ones.
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My first WWII BHP that I picked up...one side of it looks fantastic, like it came out of the war fairly unscathed, and then cared for.
The other side of it looks like it was left in a puddle of water. Near as I can figure, someone left it in a drawer or something, on a piece of leather or some other medium that just collected and condensed moisture, which is why one side is fine and the other side is crap. Oh well. Today they're collectors items; after WWII they were throw-away trophies and dirt cheap. No one cared. |
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Nickel plating milsurps was extremely common in the fifties. It was about the only option for a rust resistant finish, prior to stainless steel. The finish on many of the milsurps also left something to be desired, plating help cover up/clean up some tired iron. Stuff like that Hi Power were common and cheap back then. It was no big deal. This board can be weird. People foam at the mouth whenever an old milsurp gets refinished. But dig out an old Winchester 12 or 97, or an old A-5 Browning and the only suggestion anyone has is chop the barrel and tacticalize it. View Quote I understand the desire to have an unmessed with WWII gun. But being irritated with people of yesteryear because they didn't do it how a person thinks they should've, seems a bit self centered. I personally have always liked a gun stock, but customizing is done for a reason. |
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Usually someone decides to do something like this because the original finish looked like crap. By the quality of the finished slide it looks like they didn't want to dump any real money in it.
You could have it parkerized, blued or ceracoated if it bother you. It's heritage may have been scandalized but it's still a work of art. |
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Be careful with the WW2 era Hi-Powers made by the Germans.
Slave labor didn't always do its due diligence. While some shoot fine, soft steels and other assorted issues, attributable to that slave labor, make some of them questionable. |
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Oh look.....Someone took a $1200+ Nazi P-35 H-P and made a $600.00 shooter of it. View Quote If so, good plate. |
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I saw a worse example. The pistol had been chrome plated and had grip panels made from clear plastic sheet. View Quote http://furymovie.wikia.com/wiki/Smith_%26_Wesson_M1917 Attached File |
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Be careful with the WW2 era Hi-Powers made by the Germans. Slave labor didn't always do its due diligence. While some shoot fine, soft steels and other assorted issues, attributable to that slave labor, make some of them questionable. View Quote The Germans were pretty damn nitpicky about inspecting their firearms. While I'm sure there was sabotage of German munitions by slave laborers, I think the Belgian civilians that worked at FN still had some pride of workmanship. |
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I just saw OPs gun's twin at a pawn shop in Washington PA for 550.
I passed ?? |
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OP. Does yours have the magazine disconnect? I helped resurrect a very similar copy (plated and all) and it did not have a mag disconnect.
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I do not wish to alarm anybody but my uncle had a gun very much like the one pictured by the OP. Same description, also nickelled, some wear to the finish.
His, along with a bunch of other guns, was stolen in a burglary. What is the proper ar15.com approved procedure for asking nicely for cooperation in determining if the gun in question may be one that was among those stolen? Let me be clear about this: I am making no accusations. I KNOW that a person could buy a gun in good faith and not have any knowledge of it being stolen in the past. I do not even know if this is that gun. But how many Nazi stamped nickelled P 35s have you seen in your life? They may not be the rarest of the rare but they are hardly what I'd call common, either. Out of a sense of due diligence, shouldn't it be checked? I shot that one, that my uncle owned. I liked it a lot. It was a good shooter. |
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I do not wish to alarm anybody but my uncle had a gun very much like the one pictured by the OP. Same description, also nickelled, some wear to the finish. His, along with a bunch of other guns, was stolen in a burglary. What is the proper ar15.com approved procedure for asking nicely for cooperation in determining if the gun in question may be one that was among those stolen? Let me be clear about this: I am making no accusations. I KNOW that a person could buy a gun in good faith and not have any knowledge of it being stolen in the past. I do not even know if this is that gun. But how many Nazi stamped nickelled P 35s have you seen in your life? They may not be the rarest of the rare but they are hardly what I'd call common, either. Out of a sense of due diligence, shouldn't it be checked? I shot that one, that my uncle owned. I liked it a lot. It was a good shooter. View Quote |
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Yeah, but if that serial should match the one my uncle is missing, I would most definitely want to approach the matter in
a manner that will not stir up any trouble here on the forum. The last thing I'd want to do is act in an aggressive or hostile manner toward a fellow arfcommer, without provocation, and even then I'd rather do thing properly rather than just go into jerk mode. At this time I have no information that indicates the gun in question is the one that was stolen from my uncle or anybody else. But it's a visual match according to my own admittedly not recent memory and the specific type, with nazi proof stamps, and apparently refinished in nickel, NOT with the best workmanship, and worn and somewhat pitted, is rather uncommon. Not insanely rare, but certainly not something you'll find at every gun show. You can understand my interest under these conditions. Hopefully my uncle will check his records and say "Nope, that's not it, but thanks for keeping your eyes peeled for me!" and that'll be that. |
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I do not wish to alarm anybody but my uncle had a gun very much like the one pictured by the OP. Same description, also nickelled, some wear to the finish. A chrome plated WWII handgun is about as rare as a chrome hubcap from a 1950 Ford. His, along with a bunch of other guns, was stolen in a burglary. Then he should have a copy of the police report with the serial# of his stolen firearms What is the proper ar15.com approved procedure for asking nicely for cooperation in determining if the gun in question may be one that was among those stolen? What procedure? If you can read the serial# and it matches the one your uncle reported stolen you notify the local PD. Let me be clear about this: I am making no accusations. I KNOW that a person could buy a gun in good faith and not have any knowledge of it being stolen in the past. I do not even know if this is that gun. But how many Nazi stamped nickelled P 35s have you seen in your life? Dozens They may not be the rarest of the rare but they are hardly what I'd call common, either. Out of a sense of due diligence, shouldn't it be checked? It's your time. I shot that one, that my uncle owned. I liked it a lot. It was a good shooter. View Quote |
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Yeah, but if that serial should match the one my uncle is missing, I would most definitely want to approach the matter in a manner that will not stir up any trouble here on the forum. It's a little late don't you think? The last thing I'd want to do is act in an aggressive or hostile manner toward a fellow arfcommer, without provocation, and even then I'd rather do thing properly rather than just go into jerk mode. Maybe try matching the EASY TO READ serial number on the firearm in the OP to the serial# on your uncles stolen firearm BEFORE posting? At this time I have no information that indicates the gun in question is the one that was stolen from my uncle or anybody else. Then you should STFU until you know what you are talking about. But it's a visual match according to my own admittedly not recent memory and the specific type, with nazi proof stamps, and apparently refinished in nickel, NOT with the best workmanship, and worn and somewhat pitted, is rather uncommon. Not insanely rare, but certainly not something you'll find at every gun show. You can understand my interest under these conditions. Hopefully my uncle will check his records and say "Nope, that's not it, but thanks for keeping your eyes peeled for me!" and that'll be that. View Quote |
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I detect a bit of unwarranted hostility here.
Anyway, I checked, and "this is not the gun my uncle is looking for". All's well. Sorry to cause a diversion for what turned out to be no issue. |
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I detect a bit of unwarranted hostility here. Anyway, I checked, and "this is not the gun my uncle is looking for". All's well. Sorry to cause a diversion for what turned out to be no issue. View Quote Now that I think about it, I know a guy here had a mirror in his house, and he was a thief. Not saying it was you, but it could be given your handle. I'm not saying you're the guy, but given the chance you could be, I might need to contact the mods here to get your join date and post count to make sure you aren't the same guy. |
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OP: looks like a nickeled HP I had on layaway ten years ago at a shop in Michigan. Decided against it, and put what I had down already to a box of HP mags (all barely used Mec-Gars) there on consignment.
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